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#1 User is offline   smog monster 

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 16:22

Been thinking of getting a machine polisher and a bit unsure of what to go for , Kestrel DAS6 or the Meguiars ???

Also whats the best stuff to use Meguiars / Menzerna / 3M / Poorboys , the paint is really good and only has a few really light swirls so think it wont take much to get them out.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 17:12

I just got the Megs G220 Menzerna kit from Cleanyourcar.co.uk. The DAS6 is much cheaper, but the G220 is really well built.
Spent 9 hours doing the VRS yesterday, and it has come up a treat. Best combo of pads and polish I found was as follows.

Initial correction Menz Power Finish on Menz Orange pad
Refine. Menz Super Finish on Menz Yellow pad.

Bloomin' hard work mind :rofl: By the time you put the wax on, you have been over each panel four times.
If you do get the Menzerna kit, label each bottle after you have worked out which is which. For example, their Power Gloss is actually a compounding agent to remove wet sanding marks. Final Finish and Super Finish look identical, but Super Finish works best on VAG paint.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 19:25

Found this today,
http://www.polishedb...ould-i-use.html
look under
My car has hard paint and I want to polish it using a dual action machine polisher; what polishes and pads should I use?
as German Cars are considered Hard

Thinking about one of these myself,
http://www.cleanyour...t/prod_522.html
£119.95

OR
http://www.polishedb...sterZDAS6HP0%29
£163.95

I am leaning in the direction of the 1st kit, and planned on buying additional Menzerna x3 3.5" Spot Pads, & Flexipads 50MM DA Backing Plate.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 18:16

Just had the DAS6 delivered today - Couldn't justify the Megs as it's only infrequent use at the moment but you never know! Looking forward to trying it out :)

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 18:35

View PostRincey, on 08 February 2010 - 18:16, said:

Just had the DAS6 delivered today - Couldn't justify the Megs as it's only infrequent use at the moment but you never know! Looking forward to trying it out :)


Good lad , was thinking about 1 but lots of peeps are gonna lend me 1 , the detailing world thing seems good and lots of experineced , guys to help

The deal seems to vary , was looking at 1 on ebay ,its got 1ltr bottles of meguires instead of 250 ml for £120

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 18:37

The DAS-6 all the way!
It's way powerfuller than you actually need, there quite well built and i find it easier to use without the handle.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 22:05

Thanks guys , just made my mind up for me . . . DAS6 on order

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 23:29

Good call :thumbup:

From what I can tell (and been told), it is more than capable and you are unlikely to see any difference between that and the Megs. One ting I wasn't sure about was if it had a variable speed control but after opening ours today, I am pleased to say it does! :)

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 23:48

View PostRincey, on 08 February 2010 - 23:29, said:

Good call :thumbup:

From what I can tell (and been told), it is more than capable and you are unlikely to see any difference between that and the Megs. One ting I wasn't sure about was if it had a variable speed control but after opening ours today, I am pleased to say it does! :)
Which kit did you go for andy , thats the confusing bit to be honest


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Posted 08 February 2010 - 23:51

View PostRincey, on 08 February 2010 - 23:29, said:

Good call :thumbup:

From what I can tell (and been told), it is more than capable and you are unlikely to see any difference between that and the Megs. One ting I wasn't sure about was if it had a variable speed control but after opening ours today, I am pleased to say it does! :)


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/Browny_37/Untitled-2-1.jpg

A picture to prove its more than capable ;)

That was using the meguiars range of polishes with Meguairs 6" Foam Pads and 3" Autobrite Foam Pad.

Or in this picture you can see the "corrected" upper body panel which was quite badly marked, as the bumper illustrates.
After a few passes working the compound in, i was only left with the odd RDS.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/Browny_37/Untitled-2.jpg

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 23:57

Went for the Kestral - just hoping for some good weather at weekend to try it out :)

Got 2 Megs pads with it too - Polishing and Finishing

And that looks great Browny- roll on weekend :D

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 00:03

Im not a pro like Baker, but i would recommend making sure you take your time and go steady on the paint working your way up from the finer compounds and pads if the marks aren't coming out.

Preperation is a key part, the paint always feels great after claying the car :)

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:43

View PostBrowny_37, on 09 February 2010 - 00:03, said:

Im not a pro like Baker, but i would recommend making sure you take your time and go steady on the paint working your way up from the finer compounds and pads if the marks aren't coming out.

Preperation is a key part, the paint always feels great after claying the car :)

:rofl:

I'm no Pro and still learning plenty but I would say your spot on with your comment's, take your time, don't expect massive results straight away, a DA takes time to perfect to cut through deep marks but can make any motor look like new with some time spent on it.

With regards to the differences between a Kestrel and the G220, I can't comment but I know that the Kestrel is well respected on DW and I have now taken the plunge and own a Kestrel Rotary so am currently working with that........ :thumbup:

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 20:45

View Postsmog monster, on 08 February 2010 - 22:05, said:

Thanks guys , just made my mind up for me . . . DAS6 on order


have you bought a kit with polishes in or have you just bought the machine, i have a bottle of megs ultimate compound and a bottle of scratch x , and megs polishing and buffing pads you could borrow if you want.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 22:18

Cheers Furn , this is what i have ordered . . . http://www.cleanyour...t/prod_522.html

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 22:26

I bought the MZ DAS-6 kit, with 3 MZ polishes and 3 Sonus pads. Have found it nice and easy to use and had some good results (for an amateur) at removing swirls. This was using the most cutting pad and MZ power-finish polish, on my Dad's mk5 GTI's B pillar

BEFORE
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/devonutopia/DADS%20GOLF/DSCN2666.jpg


AFTER (by no means 100% but 95% improvement)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i87/devonutopia/DADS%20GOLF/DSCN2668.jpg

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