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Sfs Turbo Hoses Issues Being Resolved, new hose fitted woohoo

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basically ive had the kit on just over two weeks, consists of the top egr to intercooler hose, and a little 80degree pipe out the bottom of the intercooler to the metal pancake pipe.

First off the bottom hose just would not fit, see the size difference

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hmmm lol

then after four days after checking the top hose it had started to wear through due to rubbing on the header tank, not good for £230. Got on the phone to them to explain the problem, went up there monday so they could look at modifying the design of the top hose, took some measurements and talked through some ideas, just got to wait a couple of weeks now for the development, and go back for trail fitting.

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ive chopped the lug off the header tank to give extra clearance but hopefully that will be sorted with the new hose, its very close by the cambelt cover 2-3mm and down by the alt belt maybe 5mm clearance which was worrying, told them all my concerns.

Good news was that the bottom hose was just machined too long so after a quick snip each end, i fitted that today and it went on quite easy. There also looking at doing a replacement metal pipe from this bottom hose along the side of the sump, hopefully trying to keep it in 60mm guise all the way, so watch this space, good to know that a company still wants to do bit and pieces for the little fabia

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Edited by TrevorB33

i too had this kit but sent it back because it did not fit

  • 2 weeks later...

Please let me know how this goes. I'm keen to have a complete solution to my boost leak woes!!! :'(

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will do hopefully news next week of the prototype

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so pics of the revised pipe layout,

theres alot more clearance now between the header tank and pipe and the cam cover and where the alternator pulley is, alot better, pipe diameter is 62odd mm so even bigger then the silicone, sounds nice too being metal, basically its just a bigger version of the metal pipe off vrsdovit. anyway pics. enjoy

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it would be good to get a full bottom pipe done

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indeed, i just gave them the metal pipe that runs past the sump, so hopefully there gonna make a 60mm version of that

doesnt need to be 60mm

turbo fitment is 50mm so your just going to induce lag?

also presumably now theyve basically removed nearly all the silicone pipe its going to be half the price instead of 200 odd quid!!

I desperately need some uprated hoses as my standard ones are being held together with some silicone bandage! I really resent paying £200+ for decent hoses though! How much did this kit cost? The price on the Samco one is ridiculous. Does it come with all the hoses or just sections? I need every hose changed :(

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doesnt need to be 60mm

turbo fitment is 50mm so your just going to induce lag?

tbh the lag you would get would prob be outlayed by the extra top end,

also presumably now theyve basically removed nearly all the silicone pipe its going to be half the price instead of 200 odd quid!!

dunno have to contact them for details

I desperately need some uprated hoses as my standard ones are being held together with some silicone bandage! I really resent paying £200+ for decent hoses though! How much did this kit cost? The price on the Samco one is ridiculous. Does it come with all the hoses or just sections? I need every hose changed :(

only ones avaliable off the shelf are the complete top pipe and the little 80degree out the bottom of the intercooler

fingers crossed for the bottom pipe then

50mm = 1963mm^2

60mm = 2827mm^2

So going to 60mm pipe, your 40%+ greater area.

Assuming 3M of intercooler piping (total guess!).

50mm = 0.0059M^3 volume.

60mm = 0.0084M^3 volume.

Intercooler core = 175*80*600 = 0.0084M^3. That's the total volume of the core, not only the air pipes but all of the space and fins between them. At a guess, divide by 3 to estimate the volume of the air tubes themselves. There's also the end tanks...

50mm system + IC = 0.0087M^3

60mm system + IC = 0.0112M^3

The pipework between the turbo outlet and the inlet manifold grows by 28% give or take.

J.

Forge piping is all 50mm aswell

Tbh you dont need any bigger unless you have a bigger turbo than a pd150 hybtid vnt 17

Evrn my hybrid vnt20 only had 57mm

Fitment

Jase, I mentioned this before but dunno if you saw it or not. Badger 5 make a 3" TIP for the 1.8T engines even though the turbo inlet is smaller. It acts as a funnel I guess but there's been proven gains from it and many LCR owners are using it to get over 300bhp. The guy who made it said it would work the same on diesels too. I doubted it too but so many people have posted before and after RR printouts that it becomes hard to argue. What's your view on it?

Personally I don't think it's worth any gains going bigger diameter.

Unless your turbo is huge. Also the map sensor adapter is 2" so you'd have to upgrade the lot.

The turbo still produces the same amount of volume, it's just the air won't be as (how can u put this) pressurized. Think of a hose pipe when you slightly kink it.

But hey ho it'll look nice and that's what people like on here

And pressure equals boost

Less psi less boost

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they have had cars on the rollers before and after, on the pd150 (albeit that has a long hose setup) that made 15bhp more then before and similar torque,

same as the tfsi kit made 10bhp 5lb/ft

but i guess these companys dont know anything with all there thousands spent on r & d.

At the end of the day the kit gets rid of a few oem connectors and looks bling lol thats all i wanted

Petrols run less boost than diesels hence why they saw gains

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last time i checked pd150 was diesel

Tfsi is what I was in about.

What ever tickles your pickle lad.

Post some pics up if you do have them done.

  • 3 weeks later...

I have 63mm silicone from EGR to I/C and the same from I/C to turbo - I needed a 'specialised' turbo fitting to connect it up but..I can assure there is a difference. The engine feels 'stronger'. A lot less noise and when booted - there is a feeling (almost a snarling from within) that the clutch is being pushed far more than it was.

I have 63mm silicone from EGR to I/C and the same from I/C to turbo - I needed a 'specialised' turbo fitting to connect it up but..I can assure there is a difference. The engine feels 'stronger'. A lot less noise and when booted - there is a feeling (almost a snarling from within) that the clutch is being pushed far more than it was.

Is this because you have the standard EGR?

If so, any pictures and where did you get the "turbo fitting" as i need one to

Too be fair, this aint gonna matter soon anyway, is it Trev? ;-)

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Too be fair, this aint gonna matter soon anyway, is it Trev? ;-)

i can still keep the fancy top hose lol, got a 60-51 reducer to go on the map pipe sitting here ready so hopefully will mate up fine i hope lol

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