Hi,

Does anybody have an opinion on the best petrol engine the Superb Combi??

My current thoughts are to go for the 2.0 TSI 200 PS as the best balance between the V6 and the 1.8.

Don't need 4 x 4, but will have DSG.

Looking at the spec, the performance of the 2.0 is within a gnats of my current Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 but with better fuel economy.

Given the mileage I do I reckon the fuel costs difference between a new 170 diesel @ 46 mpg and the 2.0 petrol at 35mpg, against the extra purchase costs for the diesel, taking into account the VAT free offer, will take me the best part of ten years to recover.

I know that's making an assumption that I'm going to achieve the manufacturers figures, which in real terms for the diesel is close to achievable and less so for the petrol as it's mpg is more variable, dependant on type of driving. I also know that resale values are better for the diesel, but right now, for me, the cost of the petrol with the spec I want is affordable, the diesel at 20% more is not!!!

And I'm hoping to keep the new car for ages!!

I'm also considering LPG conversion further downstream, my last two cars having been converted.

Many thanks.

Hi,

Does anybody have an opinion on the best petrol engine the Superb Combi??

My current thoughts are to go for the 2.0 TSI 200 PS as the best balance between the V6 and the 1.8.

Hi,

I am since 2 weeks a proud owner of a 2.0 TSI, 200 PS DSG. I have earlier tried the 1.8 TSI, and didn't think the difference would be that much with the 40 PS extra... but, I was wrong, You can definately feel the difference, the 200 PS is absolutely lovely!!

In the first 2600 km, the board computer has shown an average consumption of 8.2 litres per 100 km. Maybe you have to convert that to find out if it´s "good or not". I have driven mostly "country-roads", but also some city driving. And of course tested the kick-down a lot...

Good luck!!

/Hasse

I like you found it difficult to justify the difference based on kms traveled. I went for the 1.8TSI and get 8.8 litres per 100kms. I knew I was going to be doing more city driving and for me, cabin noise was of a very high priority. In stop start conditions I prefer the TSI, feels less sluggish at lower revs. But it is all personal opinion though.

Just for info... I make that to be:

Hassa, Sweden: 2.0 TSI = 34.5mpg (mainly country roads & probably few traffic jams in Sweden vs. UK)

Spaz74, OZ: 1.8 TSI = 32.2mpg (thought to be more town driving)

gut feel in UK with a reasonable amount of town or nose to tail driving... I'd imagine you'll be closer to 30mpg but for the number of horses that's still not bad... on relaxed motorway run at close to 70ish I'd be surprised if you didn't get closer to 45mpg

Fun... or a bit more fun...

Stef

Just for info... I make that to be:

Hassa, Sweden: 2.0 TSI = 34.5mpg (mainly country roads & probably few traffic jams in Sweden vs. UK)

Spaz74, OZ: 1.8 TSI = 32.2mpg (thought to be more town driving)

gut feel in UK with a reasonable amount of town or nose to tail driving... I'd imagine you'll be closer to 30mpg but for the number of horses that's still not bad... on relaxed motorway run at close to 70ish I'd be surprised if you didn't get closer to 45mpg

Fun... or a bit more fun...

Stef

Stef,

Thanks for doing the conversion, I understand from other threads that the mpg indicated in the car is a little optimistic so expect Hassa is actually probably getting 32ish????

Slightly off topic, I notice you have the amethyst/ivory combination. How do you find it in practice, I've read that the ivory can look grubby after a while, and no I won't predominantly be wearing jeans. I'm thinking of Amethyst/Ivory/black carpets as the preferred option.

Steve

Stef,

Thanks for doing the conversion, I understand from other threads that the mpg indicated in the car is a little optimistic so expect Hassa is actually probably getting 32ish????

Slightly off topic, I notice you have the amethyst/ivory combination. How do you find it in practice, I've read that the ivory can look grubby after a while, and no I won't predominantly be wearing jeans. I'm thinking of Amethyst/Ivory/black carpets as the preferred option.

Steve

Hi Steve,

re. optimistic consumption from the trip computer... yep I think most people will agree with that - i think as a rule upto 10% optimistic. But a couple have made a change in the background so it reads true (Gizmo's commented somewhere on this).

Not sure where the original figures were came from Trip computer or by filling brim to brim & doing the maths.

Purely guessing from the comments and countries the guys live in, it wouldn't surprise me if the figures showed a very fair picture. IMO cars now tend to be geared to have good consumptions at around 60-70mph & if you have nice open roads with little traffic (Sweden... I've not been there but Hassa's comment leads me to think that) he may well be getting a better return. Hence over here, I reckon you'll do well to avg much more than 30mpg overall - depending upon type of road & how gentle you are :yes: .

As for my Superb... I've commented before that Ivory leather is lovely & I don't think its too much trouble to keep clean. Being new ours get a was & a hoover once a fortnight-ish and other than a damp cloth over the seats (same frequency) I think its still almost like new! Not too bad with a 6 & 8 year old in the back throwing a party in the enormous rear!

Have a look at the pics from a fortnight ago 5 months old.

My link

You'll notice the cheap Tesco floor mats (only 99p ok for the money but not that good really) & why.... yep because the Ivory carpet & mats are starting to get grubby :-( Not given them a proper wash yet but if I had realised that black carpets & mats were an option, I would definately go for them!

As for Amethyst... I think it hides the dirt well & can probably go for a fair few weeks without a wash if it had to. We're happy with it. Not too many around surprisingly, but if you fancy a look if up in the M/cr area let me know, just send a message to arrnage.

So... sorry for the blurb but to cut to the chase... your prefered option would also be mine! Go for it!!!

Finally... extras... I'd say a space saver spare wheel (which is infact a 205/R16 - hence not full-size on Elegance but it is on the S) is a safety & a convenience must (when needed) and the heated front windscreen - great for those icy days! Other options take your pick... preference & budget determines that! But I would say MDI isnot necessary due to the SD card facility... easier, cheaper & very good!

Good luck & enjoy when it eventually gets to you! :S

Stef

I prefer the DSG gearbox on the 1.8TSi compared to the 2.0TSi DSG as the 1.8TSi DSG has the 7 speed twin-dry clutch system which is super smooth and very fast. I also find the economy on the 1.8TSi very good for such a large car.

But the 2.0TSi is very fast and is a nice torquey motor that really suits the Superb. Either one I'm sure you'll be happy with, for me personally I think I'd rather have a 1.8TSi and put a couple of options on it to make it up to the same price as the 2.0TSi.

But at the end of the day, whichever you go for you can't go wrong.

Hi,

I am since 2 weeks a proud owner of a 2.0 TSI, 200 PS DSG. I have earlier tried the 1.8 TSI, and didn't think the difference would be that much with the 40 PS extra... but, I was wrong, You can definately feel the difference, the 200 PS is absolutely lovely!!

Hasse,

Does your Superb have the pair of twin tail pipes I've seen on another thread??? If so were they standard fit??

Regards,

steve

I prefer the DSG gearbox on the 1.8TSi compared to the 2.0TSi DSG as the 1.8TSi DSG has the 7 speed twin-dry clutch system which is super smooth and very fast. I also find the economy on the 1.8TSi very good for such a large car.

But the 2.0TSi is very fast and is a nice torquey motor that really suits the Superb. Either one I'm sure you'll be happy with, for me personally I think I'd rather have a 1.8TSi and put a couple of options on it to make it up to the same price as the 2.0TSi.

But at the end of the day, whichever you go for you can't go wrong.

Having driven the TDi DSG I Agree!! also would not bother with the 3spoke steering wheel with paddles as an option on the 1.8 TSi as the engine is so quiet!

Having driven the TDi DSG I Agree!! also would not bother with the 3spoke steering wheel with paddles as an option on the 1.8 TSi as the engine is so quiet!

The beauty of the 3 spoke steering wheel for me is not the paddle shift function but the comfort from the thicker hand grip and thumb holds on the wheel. The 4 spoke just felt too thin.

Edited 28 April, 201115 yr by spaz74

The beauty of the 3 spoke steering wheel for me is not the paddle shift function but the comfort from the thicker hand grip and thumb holds on the wheel. The 4 spoke just felt too thin.

I am ordering tomorrow, Yippee!!!! The spec will include the 3 spoke steering wheel because:

a. I have big hands!!!

b. I love toys so want the paddle shift!!! :p

Hasse,

Does your Superb have the pair of twin tail pipes I've seen on another thread??? If so were they standard fit??

Regards,

steve

Hi Steve,

Sorry for the late answer.

Yes, my Superb had 2+2 tail pipes at delivery. It was standard on the 2.0 TSI DSG.

Also, mine is a hatchback and the small hatch spoiler was also there as standard.

No more differences in equipment compared to the 1.8 TSI -except for the engine of course...

Good luck with your car, I love mine!! 4800 km in 3 weeks now.

/Hasse

I am ordering tomorrow, Yippee!!!! The spec will include the 3 spoke steering wheel because:

a. I have big hands!!!

b. I love toys so want the paddle shift!!! :p

Which engine?

Here is my maths on the subject from a different thread ....

For us the formula for petrol over diesel worked like this. These are list prices as we reasoned that within limits the dealer had the same amount of commission to be talked off either car

Elegance 1.8 TSI 160PS 7spd DSG £20,804 (pre vat price)

Elegance 2.0 TDI CR 170PS DPF DSG £27,105 (inc vat price)

Difference £6,301 which is the current Skoda offer to buy a petrol rather than a diesel

UK Diesel price of £1.38 per litre – UK Petrol Price of £1.34 per litre (at our local Asda) difference of 4p per litre and with 4.454 litres to the gallon Petrol costs £5.96 per gallon and Diesel £6.14

Using the Combined Consumption, the petrol travels 38.7 miles per gallon and the diesel 46.3 – so the petrol needs to travel a further 7.6 miles which takes 0.19 of a gallon of fuel.

So for every gallon of diesel you will need 1.2 gallons (rounded) of petrol .

Expressed as cash that is £6.14 worth of diesel to cover 46.3 miles and £7.15 worth of petrol to cover 46.3 miles – which is very frightening all by itself.

To cover 45,000 miles therefore you will need £5,968 worth of diesel and £6,950 worth of petrol. Petrol is more expensive by £982 but the car cost £6,301 less leaving a balance of £5,319 which divided by 3 (years) and minus a healthy slice of scepticism is £1,500 per year less to run over 15,000 miles.

If I use the Extra Urban the figures, the results fall more in favour of the petrol as the difference per gallon of fuel falls from 7.6 miles to 6.4 miles.

All of this assumes of course that you drive according to the book figures and that the book figures are right in the first place. All engines and petrol prices are the same, zero wind resistance, no traffic jams, no moments of exuberance and that all of us drive exactly the same journey under the same conditions each and every day.

Two things stand out to me; the figures are better than when I worked them out on a scrap of paper in the dealer (hooray!!) and, is it me of do I notice that to balance the petrol to diesel costs currently requires an adjustment of 20%, exactly the percentage Skoda are giving off the car …….

This also assumes that you pay list price for Diesel. My 4x4 Elegance 170 Combi was ~£22,500 last December. So add in residual difference of diesel and real world ability of diesel's fuel consumption over petrol and it's probably not much difference. Not that petrol discount option was a choice back then for me.

btw, I'd like to be pay £1.38 for diesel, here in Cambridge it's 142.9-144.9p with the odd one at 146.9p

Cheers

Steve

Which engine?

Went for the 2.0TFSI, same performance as the current car, which I'm happy with!!

When you get bored with the performance it should remap to about the same bhp as the 3.6 V6, but without the road tax bill.

Pics when she turns up please.

When you get bored with the performance it should remap to about the same bhp as the 3.6 V6, but without the road tax bill.

Pics when she turns up please.

Yes a saving on road tax but a fortune in front tyres!!!

V6 has 4 wheel drive so no problem putting all that power down.

Had a Volvo T5R a few years ago, had about 240bhp.

It was front wheel drive.

Complained to dealer I was only getting 9,000 miles out of the front tires, he laughed and said "your lucky, others are struggling to get 3k miles!!!!!!