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Just wondering, if fitting steel wheels, does the wheel nut need to be changed to steel ones? or would it be OK with original?

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Just wondering, if fitting steel wheels, does the wheel nut need to be changed to steel ones? or would it be OK with original?

No need to change the wheel bolts if using VAG steels and VAG alloys have both the same 'cone' shape. Usually find after-market alloys need a different bolt mind due to there cone profile.

Remember it's not the bolts that take the cars weight but the spigot hole in the middle, so that is important to get right.

Regards,

TP

No need to change the wheel bolts if using VAG steels and VAG alloys have both the same 'cone' shape. Usually find after-market alloys need a different bolt mind due to there cone profile.

Remember it's not the bolts that take the cars weight but the spigot hole in the middle, so that is important to get right.

Regards,

TP

The ATS tyre fitter made the very same point re. it not being the bolts that take the weight, but the...as you say.....hole in the wheel sitting tightly on the aforesaid.

We also spoke about the advisability of a smear of copper grease on mating surfaces due to the reaction between allloy and steel.

Just treated my new alloys to a coat of Autoglym Super Resin Polish plus Extra Gloss Protection. Will do them again when swapping over end of October.

Was wondering whether to spray the steelies with Hammerite on the inside (did give them a spray of Stone Guard and a wax polish but it's so easy when they're off isn't it? I get on better with the hammered finish rather than the smooth.....which I find doesn't stick as well as the old, original, hammered finish.

No need to change the wheel bolts if using VAG steels and VAG alloys have both the same 'cone' shape. Usually find after-market alloys need a different bolt mind due to there cone profile.

Remember it's not the bolts that take the cars weight but the spigot hole in the middle, so that is important to get right.

Regards,

TP

Anybody know how the 16" steel wheels supplied by mytyres for Yeti 170 comply with the above requirements for bolts and spigot fit?

Anybody know how the 16" steel wheels supplied by mytyres for Yeti 170 comply with the above requirements for bolts and spigot fit?

I believe Johann (90000) has Mytyres steels and judging by the amount of miles he's clocked up I'd say they fitted OK.... :)

Anybody know how the 16" steel wheels supplied by mytyres for Yeti 170 comply with the above requirements for bolts and spigot fit?

Have mytyres steel rims for the wife's Fabia and the standard VAG wheel bolts fit fine. Needed to get a set of winters fairly quickly and the mytyres package was the best option at the time. However I think the VAG rims as you would expect are better quality and probably worth paying that bit extra for.

TP

Have mytyres steel rims for the wife's Fabia and the standard VAG wheel bolts fit fine. Needed to get a set of winters fairly quickly and the mytyres package was the best option at the time. However I think the VAG rims as you would expect are better quality and probably worth paying that bit extra for.

TP

As you know, I have the Skoda wheels and before getting them asked, on here, if anyone knew whether plastic wheel trims (Rif or independant) fittd the MyTyres wheels. I still don't know first hand...but the independant plastic trims I bought for the Skoda wheels fit OK on them, using the wire ring slotted in to the plastic supports. How do Rif trims fit? Anyone?

The trims were cheap as chips and I wouldn't think look much worse than the Rif. And if they get scuffed, they're readily replaceable for next to nothing. They do rotate though...don't know if Rifs do too. Cable tie required to secure them. Would imagine heavy braking could see them rotate and push the tyre valve over to a point where you wouldn't want it pushed over.

They're more likely to get scratched on the kerb as they do stick out beyond the tyre - whereas the alloy is well set back behind the tyre line and well protected.

As you know, I have the Skoda wheels and before getting them asked, on here, if anyone knew whether plastic wheel trims (Rif or independant) fittd the MyTyres wheels. I still don't know first hand...but the independant plastic trims I bought for the Skoda wheels fit OK on them, using the wire ring slotted in to the plastic supports. How do Rif trims fit? Anyone?

The trims were cheap as chips and I wouldn't think look much worse than the Rif. And if they get scuffed, they're readily replaceable for next to nothing. They do rotate though...don't know if Rifs do too. Cable tie required to secure them. Would imagine heavy braking could see them rotate and push the tyre valve over to a point where you wouldn't want it pushed over.

They're more likely to get scratched on the kerb as they do stick out beyond the tyre - whereas the alloy is well set back behind the tyre line and well protected.

Used the Rif wheel trims on the Previous Yeti; expensive but very good quality and they don't move or slip round the rim. Like most Skoda trims I've seen lately they are held in place by a wire ring running around the clips on the outer edge.

Also have a set of Skoda 15" trims for the Fabia, less than half the price of a set of Rifs but they don't have the coloured badge in the middle, just a lightly embossed logo moulded into the plastic of the trim and held in place with the same ring system. They do fit onto the mytyres steel rims but leave a noticeable gap between rim and trim therefore the fit is not so good albeit secure.

TP

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First the good news, my SM has been built and is awaiting shipping emoticon-0140-rofl.gif can't believe it as was ordered on 21st Feb.

Anyway I have just spoken to my local dealer parts dept. ( not the supplying dealer ) about wheels for winter tyres and was told that they do not recommend Alloys as winter tyres don't fit properly because of the hard side walls.emoticon-0124-worried.gif

Doesn't sound right to me, any comments please.

Roger

First the good news, my SM has been built and is awaiting shipping emoticon-0140-rofl.gif can't believe it as was ordered on 21st Feb.

Anyway I have just spoken to my local dealer parts dept. ( not the supplying dealer ) about wheels for winter tyres and was told that they do not recommend Alloys as winter tyres don't fit properly because of the hard side walls.emoticon-0124-worried.gif

Doesn't sound right to me, any comments please.

Roger

you have been told a pile of p**.

There are many on here using alloys for winter use.

Now I personally wouldn't use alloys as I would have written off 2 wheels at the beginning of the year. Instead my steels were just hammered back into shape. £150+ v £0 for repair. no brainer.

you have been told a pile of p**.

There are many on here using alloys for winter use.

indeed - a pile of poo

you have been told a pile of p**.

Indeed. The fit of a tyre to a rim is solely dependent on the rim geometry (diameter, width, and the profile of the bead seat) and has nothing to do with the material it's made from.

The main reasons people choose to use steel wheels in winter are:

  • It's a cheap way to get a second set of wheels. There are two benefits to this. Firstly, it means that you can just swap the wheels over when the cold weather comes, rather than having to got a tyre fitter to get the winter tyres swapped on to your existing rims. Secondly, if you have 17" alloys and you think you might need to fit chains in winter then, according to the manual, you should only do so with one of the approved tyre/wheel combinations which uses 16" wheels - hence you need a second set.
  • There's more risk of doing something nasty to a wheel in winter conditions (eg kerbs get hidden under snow) and a steelie is cheaper to replace/can be fixed.

  • There's more risk of doing something nasty to a wheel in winter conditions (eg kerbs get hidden under snow) and a steelie is cheaper to replace/can be fixed.

Or hitting a piece of lorry exhaust on the motorway at 70mph like I did emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

I went to mytyres and got Vredestein Wintrac Extreme on 16" steel wheels for about £600 all in(including delivery). I was charged the usual ridiculous extra delivery charge to the far North of Scotland but reckon its worth it just to live here. Anyhow , tried to do it the cheap way ,ebay etc but decided that mytyres overall were the best way to go, brand new wheels, the tyres I wanted all delivered to my door. Give them a try.

I used Mytyres as well, a set of Nokian winter tyres on 16" steelies for about £450 including delivery. Apart from the delivery being disrupted by the snow (!) everything was fine.

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