Went to Shark performance to let them develop the stage 1 map for the 1.4TSI(180) in the Fabia vRS/Ibiza Cupra/Polo GTI. Somehow i ended up leaving there without my own car but in an A4 Estate to allow them time to not only develop the stage 1, but to also develop a stage 2 map for the car.

As it happens i dont have an uprated performance downpipe or exhaust. What we have done is modify the standard exhaust to make it a bit more free flowing (no more questions on that though, all you need to know is that it flows alot better than stock ) The alternative to this was to buy a £1100 full turbo back exhaust from miltek or pay £60 to modify the standard exhaust and get nearly all the power of a full stage 2 setup. well im £1040 better of as a result and it still looks stock. Bear in mind though that the Miltek exhaust is 3" in diameter and a full system, mine is stil the OEM 2.25" diameter with all the tight kinks etc. The car is also running the stock air intake,

With that in mind i would say this is now more of a stage 1+ setup rather than a stage 2.

So this is the Dyno graph.

Both the stock and stage 1+/2 runs are with the 'performance' downpipe. So considering that, i think its fair to say that the dyno is not the generous type, and the actual stock power with the 'standard' downpipe would be slightly less again.

Peak Hp gains are only around 35hp, but the midrange gains are immense.

Stock car with tweaked downpipe made 174hp @ 5500rpm. stage 2 is making that @ 3300rpm.

the midrange gains are immense though. i very rarely take any of my cars over 5000rpm , so everyday use for me would be between 3000-5000rpm and this is giving gains of 55hp and 75 lbft,. and believe me when i say its noticable. The power is starts to drop off at 5600rpm, however that is a combination of the standard intake and 'tweaked' std downpipe. no doubt there would be a few more Hp to gain, but not really enough to justify an extra £1040. Once i add the intake im expecting to gain a good 10hp+ at the top end of the rev range as the standard setup is dyno proven to be restictive in comparison to the Forge or ITG upgrades on the market.

Ive compared it to the REVO stage 2 graphs in >>>here<<< and the midrange power and torque is much stronger with this map,

30Hp/40lbft more @ 3500rpm,

30Hp/30lbft more @ 4000rpm,

20Hp/20lbft more @ 4500rpm

and 5hp more @ 5000rpm.

Then REVO takes over. They are making better power top end, but that might be the exhaust, who knows. Not bothered tbh, im very rarely above 5500rpm which is the point where revo starts to creep ahead, so up until that point mine is very nice indeed.

As mikko mentioned in the teaser thread, this car with the stage 1 map was hitting 0-62 in less than 6 seconds and 0-100 in less than 14 seconds, which as a point of reference is what a mk2 300Hp Focus RS will do.

Am i happy with it??

God yeah, this is like a rocket ship now, i dont think it has the kick in the back my stage 2+ Octavia had but its smoother. This is what it should have been like when stock. Excluding the intake im done for power mods. Now its time to ort the chassis and brakes.

Oh and Mpg is a good 5mpg better as well :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Will add more details once i drive it some more

Oh and the prices from Shark Performance were

stage 1 (direct from stock) = £499 including VAT

stage 2 upgrade = Additional £100 incl VAT if your running stage 1 already

stage 2 (direct from stock) = £499 Incl VAT

not sure how much it will be if you go direct to stage 2.

Edited 7 May, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

Interesting read. Good on you for going for it with so little mileage too! I am so happy with my Shark map also, need to get it on a dyno now to see the difference though.

The DSG certainly makes its mark in the performance stakes, providing blistering times with no fuss, however that takes some of the skill and enjoyment out of driving a car for me, but I'm not ruling myself out of owning a DSG equipped car someday.

Will be interesting to see what your oil consumption is like running that extra power, I have been pretty shocked at some of the cars on here and their usage :S

KW have a coilover kit available for the Mk2 now, would be good to see it sitting down on those

Would like to see this at Castle Combe in September if you can make it for the Brisky session

Great stuff overall though!

Nice one mate. Glad you're pleased with it and you've written a review up about it. Depending on when it becomes available and price, I may get it done myself.

Wondering if extra miles will help generate a little more hp, or more importantly, make the car feel smoother and all the other characterstics of a run in car.

Depending on when it becomes available and price, I may get it done myself.

Today is your lucky day

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/200733-fabia-vrs-14tsi-software-now-released/

Thats a lovely curve!.

All of the 1.4's i have seen have had rubbish torque, this is looking as good as the 2.0tsi's!.

Oh somebody give them a 1.2tsi already!!!!!!!!

Nice one, bet your happy with that then

Nice lump of torque gained there

I wonder how long its gonna be before you pay out for the downpipe

Nice one, bet your happy with that then

Nice lump of torque gained there

I wonder how long its gonna be before you pay out for the downpipe

The way i see it if i pay out for the full 3" downpipe it'll free up some more power top end predominantly after 5k, but then its alot of money for some Hp which will very rarely get used. An intake is half the price of the downpipe and will gain me more Hp as well.

Nice one mate. Glad you're pleased with it and you've written a review up about it. Depending on when it becomes available and price, I may get it done myself.

Wondering if extra miles will help generate a little more hp, or more importantly, make the car feel smoother and all the other characterstics of a run in car.

its so much better than stock. Ive said many times on here that the fabia lacked the mid range grunt i was used to. now id say im 90% there. I dont see the extra miles making much difference to the power to be honest and if it did, it would be minimal and quite easily could be a result of dyno lottery. the 3 times i dyno'd my octy before getting it mapped it was within 2Hp of itself each time.

awesome mate, nice amount of torque

Let us know what MPG is like. If it's the same, then that's a bonus, anything better and well...

Let us know what MPG is like. If it's the same, then that's a bonus, anything better and well...

He already said

Oh and Mpg is a good 5mpg better as well

Yeh that was on his trip back I believe. I meant medium-long term

well drove a further 270 miles last night from kent to plymouth and managed 44mpg @ 70mph plus or minus 10mph..... with 4 people and luggage in the car.

and managed 36.7mpg in rush hour traffic for the 9mile commute to work

Update to this thread

The fuel economy has stayed very good. Ive also now got a Forge intake fitted as well.

Rolling road day at JKM today so good for a comparison to the previous graph done straight after the map. Also good to compare to alternative stage 2 software

Car/engine: Fabia vRS 1.4TSI

Tuner/stage settings: Shark Performance stage 1+/2

Engine Modifications: Modified stock exhaust, Forge Intake.

Type of dyno: Dynodynamics

Misc details: standard exhaust butchered to reduce exhaust gas temps and increase flow, obviously not as free flowing as a full 3" TBE.

This is my new intake

In comparison, An Ibiza Cupra 1.4TSI with stage 2 REVOwent on the rollers just after me at todays rolling road day.

Car/engine: Ibiza Bocanegra 1.4TSI

Tuner/stage settings: REVO stage 2

Engine Modifications: Miltek 2.75" full exhaust system

Type of dyno: Dynodynamics

Misc details: Setting B

This is backed up on the road as well, they are very similar in performance with myself having the slight edge in the midrange. His sounds way nicer though, mine is really quiet still

Edited 18 June, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

Another good result with the Shark vs Revo

Are you goning to go for the exhaust then...................

Nice smooth graph. What happened with your second graph torque?

Another good result with the Shark vs Revo

Are you goning to go for the exhaust then...................

Nice smooth graph. What happened with your second graph torque?

Not sure tbh, maybe the intake has caused a torque reduction. Not going to bother with the full exhaust. £1100 and id gain maybe a couple Hp!!! Ill get an intercooler but im happy with this output.

Why does the BHP line look identical on both graphs when the second one has less torque?

Apart from that very nice results. Not bad for a 1.4

I do like how you've been sensible with the engine tuning. Like not wasting £1100 when you can just improve the oem one.

Hi, I am by no means an expert, I have a new fabia vRS 1.4 and am after improvements. I am considering a JabbaSport remap or a Shark. Jabba apparently can't do it yet. Legal reasons apparently have delayed the development.

I have questions about air induction. Firstly is it better to get clean cooler air from an intake or is a naked cone filter in the engine bay good for better gains? Second, if the weight of opinion is erring to the former then I think the standard airbox with a drop in replacement cone will do the trick however a larger intake pipe would be preferential. Will the PD160 intake from a cupra fit???

I would like to continue appearing as standard but also feel that the original designers knew what they were doing albeit suffering from he international curse of compromise. I think a straighter pipe is going to be more efficient than a kinky one.

Your thoughts and views will be most welcome.

Oh and a rear ARB. Yes or no?

I have questions about air induction. Firstly is it better to get clean cooler air from an intake or is a naked cone filter in the engine bay good for better gains?

Definitely cold air from an intake, no contest.

Second, if the weight of opinion is erring to the former then I think the standard airbox with a drop in replacement cone will do the trick however a larger intake pipe would be preferential. Will the PD160 intake from a cupra fit???

I doubt it but can't confirm.

Oh and a rear ARB. Yes or no?

I think lowering would be the first port of call for me, then perhaps an ARB.

wishbones from the Audi TT mk1 apparently will fit, so theres extra camber, better roll centre, less weight and stiffer bushes straightaway. add the rear ARB and you have a standard ride, but with huge improvments in body roll and cornering grip

Why does the BHP line look identical on both graphs when the second one has less torque?

Apart from that very nice results. Not bad for a 1.4

I do like how you've been sensible with the engine tuning. Like not wasting £1100 when you can just improve the oem one.

dificult to say really. First graph is with std air intake. second graph is on a different dyno and a forge intake. Id have normally expected more power but still happy and with dyno lottery it might be making more, who knows. goes like a stabbed rat though

I suppose if you refitted the std intake and then re rolling roaded your car on the same rollers you would get an idea if the forge intake has given you any gains?

I sometimes think that with air filters its best left to the std factory airbox. I've seen big hp skylines, cossies etc still using the OE factory air box and panel filter as it keeps that low end torque for driveabliltiy. But either way mate you have a lethal weapon there!

Went to Shark performance to let them develop the stage 1 map for the 1.4TSI(180) in the Fabia vRS/Ibiza Cupra/Polo GTI. Somehow i ended up leaving there without my own car but in an A4 Estate to allow them time to not only develop the stage 1, but to also develop a stage 2 map for the car.As it happens i dont have an uprated performance downpipe or exhaust. What we have done is modify the standard exhaust to make it a bit more free flowing (no more questions on that though, all you need to know is that it flows alot better than stock ) The alternative to this was to buy a £1100 full turbo back exhaust from miltek or pay £60 to modify the standard exhaust and get nearly all the power of a full stage 2 setup. well im £1040 better of as a result and it still looks stock. Bear in mind though that the Miltek exhaust is 3" in diameter and a full system, mine is stil the OEM 2.25" diameter with all the tight kinks etc. The car is also running the stock air intake,With that in mind i would say this is now more of a stage 1+ setup rather than a stage 2.So this is the Dyno graph. Both the stock and stage 1+/2 runs are with the 'performance' downpipe. So considering that, i think its fair to say that the dyno is not the generous type, and the actual stock power with the 'standard' downpipe would be slightly less again.Peak Hp gains are only around 35hp, but the midrange gains are immense.Stock car with tweaked downpipe made 174hp @ 5500rpm. stage 2 is making that @ 3300rpm.the midrange gains are immense though. i very rarely take any of my cars over 5000rpm , so everyday use for me would be between 3000-5000rpm and this is giving gains of 55hp and 75 lbft,. and believe me when i say its noticable. The power is starts to drop off at 5600rpm, however that is a combination of the standard intake and 'tweaked' std downpipe. no doubt there would be a few more Hp to gain, but not really enough to justify an extra £1040. Once i add the intake im expecting to gain a good 10hp+ at the top end of the rev range as the standard setup is dyno proven to be restictive in comparison to the Forge or ITG upgrades on the market.Ive compared it to the REVO stage 2 graphs in >>>here<<< and the midrange power and torque is much stronger with this map, 30Hp/40lbft more @ 3500rpm, 30Hp/30lbft more @ 4000rpm, 20Hp/20lbft more @ 4500rpm and 5hp more @ 5000rpm. Then REVO takes over. They are making better power top end, but that might be the exhaust, who knows. Not bothered tbh, im very rarely above 5500rpm which is the point where revo starts to creep ahead, so up until that point mine is very nice indeed.As mikko mentioned in the teaser thread, this car with the stage 1 map was hitting 0-62 in less than 6 seconds and 0-100 in less than 14 seconds, which as a point of reference is what a mk2 300Hp Focus RS will do. Am i happy with it??God yeah, this is like a rocket ship now, i dont think it has the kick in the back my stage 2+ Octavia had but its smoother. This is what it should have been like when stock. Excluding the intake im done for power mods. Now its time to ort the chassis and brakes.Oh and Mpg is a good 5mpg better as well Will add more details once i drive it some moreOh and the prices from Shark Performance werestage 1 (direct from stock) = £499 including VATstage 2 upgrade = Additional £100 incl VAT if your running stage 1 alreadystage 2 (direct from stock) = £499 Incl VATnot sure how much it will be if you go direct to stage 2.

Hey mate. Just got the 1.4 tsi.. have you had any problems since the stage one map? Just looking and it seems there's a lot of hungry oil problems. Did it make a big difference after the map? Top it up regular etc?

Hey mate. Just got the 1.4 tsi.. have you had any problems since the stage one map? Just looking and it seems there's a lot of hungry oil problems. Did it make a big difference after the map? Top it up regular etc?

Not sure if Sy is still around on here now, with this dating back to 2011

I know he sold the Fabia and moved onto Fords

Not sure if Sy is still around on here now, with this dating back to 2011I know he sold the Fabia and moved onto Fords

Booo! Anyone else I could possibly ask who's got a mapped vrs? I'm a complete noob to this forum and don't know how to do much yet

Booo! Anyone else I could possibly ask who's got a mapped vrs? I'm a complete noob to this forum and don't know how to do much yet

Theres plenty on here with mapped cars or tuning boxes are also popular. Do a search on here theres a few threads.

I think you'd need to be INCREDIBLY brave to map a 1.4TSi vRS. You need to keep the warranty intact, just in case it develops a thirst for lubricants. A new engine is £4000 or something like that. Can you really justify the risk for 25bhp?