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Hi all,

Had my greenline II for a few weeks now and just noticed something strange and before i go to the dealers i wanted to check with you guys if this is normal or if there is a genuine fault and any suggestions as to what could be the problem.

I have only noticed it in the past couple of days but when for example, i pull up to my drive or park up in the work car park, my car will show the auto-start stop has failed i.e the A with a cross through it as it does when its not warm enough etc yet the engine does cut out and the rev counter etc all drops. I may not have described this in the best possible way so i took a photo (see below).

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I have checked the manual etc and cant see anything in there and look forward to your suggestions and hopefully your problem solving skills!

Thanks,

JMH87

The Fiat system on my wife's car is sometimes upset by her riding the clutch excessively, resulting in the sytem disabling itself with various warning lights coming on. It resets itself after a few engine starts. Not sure if your issue is similar though.

Hi all,

Had my greenline II for a few weeks now and just noticed something strange and before i go to the dealers i wanted to check with you guys if this is normal or if there is a genuine fault and any suggestions as to what could be the problem.

I have only noticed it in the past couple of days but when for example, i pull up to my drive or park up in the work car park, my car will show the auto-start stop has failed i.e the A with a cross through it as it does when its not warm enough etc yet the engine does cut out and the rev counter etc all drops. I may not have described this in the best possible way so i took a photo (see below).

DSC_0010

I have checked the manual etc and cant see anything in there and look forward to your suggestions and hopefully your problem solving skills!

Thanks,

JMH87

I do not have the maxidot display, mine sometimes says something like stop start inactive - not seen it very often. The symbol is like the symbol on the button in

between the front seats.

What message do you get if you use the disable button between the seats? I wonder if you have a faulty connection on the switch.

If it's stopping then it's getting the required signals. Sounds odd.

A fault should really keep the engine running.

Sounds like a question for another GL2 Maxi-dot driver. :)

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I do not have the maxidot display, mine sometimes says something like stop start inactive - not seen it very often. The symbol is like the symbol on the button in

between the front seats.

What message do you get if you use the disable button between the seats? I wonder if you have a faulty connection on the switch.

I didnt get any messages when i deactivate it which is strange (first time i have turned it off). The only message i do get is when i successfully do a start stop at a junction for example after letting the engine heat up. If it does fail then i literally the A with a line through it in the top right hand corner like ive got in the photo..

I've noticed an annoying feature - if you stop the car and the stop/start activates then you release the seatbelt and then buckle up again, then the car will not start when depressing the clutch and you have to start the car by turning the ignition off then on again, not good when you are stuck at lights trying to get away!!

I don't think this is a fault, just one of the many ways in which the start/stop will deactivate itself and there seem to be many ways.

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I believe the start stop will not activate if it thinks you have parked ie following severe steering. You could rest this theory by parking in a straight on space and let me know.

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Thanks for all the replies guys.

Took the car to the dealers on friday to see if they could do anything. Basically after test driving it and running a diagnostics on it they couldnt find any error codes (?) in the system on the car therefore skoda do not recognise it as an error!! They believe its not causing any problems with the engine etc and that its just a software issue that they are hoping will be fixed when an update comes about.

So im glad it doesnt seem to a serious problem but even so to spend £12000 on a car and it to have an error and to be just shrugged off that they cant do anything has left me feeling pretty disillusioned with the whole thing and i dont know what my next step should be :(.

I still reckon it's actually doing what it's meant to do, mine is the same. Does it stop start at traffic lights for example ? Just not when you park at home/work ? That's how it's meant to be ie stop-start, it only stops when it expects you to be starting again. The only basis I have for this is that I read somewhere it won't activate after a large steering as it thinks you have parked, on that basis, I bet it won't activate after reversing either.

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I still reckon it's actually doing what it's meant to do, mine is the same. Does it stop start at traffic lights for example ? Just not when you park at home/work ? That's how it's meant to be ie stop-start, it only stops when it expects you to be starting again. The only basis I have for this is that I read somewhere it won't activate after a large steering as it thinks you have parked, on that basis, I bet it won't activate after reversing either.

Yeah it works fine at traffic lights etc. I also totally understand your point that it probably shouldnt work when parking my car up but my problem is with the fact its showing me the start stop has failed when i do park up yet my engine has been cut i.e there is no revs or noise etc so it is telling me one thing but another has happened and i just would like it to either fail and the engine run or actually start-stop and cut the engine. :(

Ah, so it is cutting out, but saying it hasn't, that is weird then.

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Yeah exactly strange and frustrating :-(

  • 5 months later...

Just taken delivery of my greenline 2 est after just over seven months from order. The stop start hasn't worked since day one (except when it was in the workshop) and now I've discovered that if the engine Is switched off left for a few minutes then restarted the stop start will work. I have the maxi dot fitted and it keeps displaying error stop start when you use the on off switch between the seats.

It has been on skodas computer and they say no faults are showing. It is booked in again next Thursday so if anyone can shed some light on this I would appreciate it.

If you stop in a fairly straight line it should operate provided you're not going through a regen cycle with the DPF and there is no heavy battery drain.

When the weather was rather cold and the heater was working all the time mine disabled itself at tempts below about +2(ish)

If you make reasonable steering inputs before stopping (or reverse) the car thinks you are parking and so doesn't switch the engine off.

Having said all that mine worked less when new. From day one it needed a run of about 5 miles before it would activate.

But once it had done a few thousand miles the stop-start system would happily cut in even if I'd only driven half a mile from starting the engine. Possibly this is coded in to the ECU to help run the engine in.

If my start-stop system is not operating I also get an error message if I try to switch it off.

I believe that is can telling you that it's not possible to switch it on anyway.

Ideally, before you take it in I'd give it a run (on a mild day) of 10 miles or so, get it right up to temp and then see if it works when you stop without any heavy steering inputs. If not and the engine is ticking over at about 800rpm (shows no regen in effect) then it's a dealer job. Or find someone local on here with a VCDS to scan the car for any faults.

I scanned mine myself when I had an issue and found an EGR fault that was stopping the stop-start from working sometimes.

Oh, and welcome to Briskoda. :thumbup:

I have 700 miles on the car now and all my journeys are over 40 miles and at the moment the weather here in Kent is a balmy 10-12 Celsius. I have a journey of 25 miles of motorway then it's all stop start for about 8 miles then another dual carriageway run of about 8 miles and the system has never cut in even when stopping at traffic lights in a straight line.

I reckon the mileage is the big factor being as the car is so new and perhaps it will sort itself out when " run in"

Thanks for the advice

Roy

Well that sounds like ideal stop-start conditions to me. I'd only expect it not to cut out if it's doing a regen cycle, but that should only be every 500-1000 miles or so.

Mine worked from day one, once it was properly up to temp as I said above, so it needs looking at IMO.

Good luck with it.

I have 700 miles on the car now and all my journeys are over 40 miles and at the moment the weather here in Kent is a balmy 10-12 Celsius. I have a journey of 25 miles of motorway then it's all stop start for about 8 miles then another dual carriageway run of about 8 miles and the system has never cut in even when stopping at traffic lights in a straight line.

I reckon the mileage is the big factor being as the car is so new and perhaps it will sort itself out when " run in"

Thanks for the advice

Roy

Been trying to dig the thread out but cannot find it, someone else has had a similar problem and it turned out to be a bent bonnet switch.

The Stop Start would not operate because the car thought the bonnet was open.

Been trying to dig the thread out but cannot find it, someone else has had a similar problem and it turned out to be a bent bonnet switch.

The Stop Start would not operate because the car thought the bonnet was open.

That usually stops the windscreen wipers too doesn't it?

Could be an easy way to check?

We have a bulletin on the stop start system on the Fabia 2 at the moment, something to do with a poor connection on the cooling fan or something random, only heard in passing but it's on the system so worth popping into your local dealer and they can check to see if your car is affected.

Just back from the dealers and it appears to be fixed. Apparently there's a relayor switch under the drivers seat which detects battery voltage and is part of the system which prevents the stop start working, and the connections where not very well done. These have now been repaired and the system works.

Thanks to all for their advice and support

Glad you got it fixed!

I however don't think stop starts going to be popular in 7/8 years when all the cars that have it now start to break...

It's going to be annoying sat behind a car thats turned itsself off at a traffic light and wont go back on! :'(

Or am I just a pessimist?

Glad you got it fixed!

I however don't think stop starts going to be popular in 7/8 years when all the cars that have it now start to break...

It's going to be annoying sat behind a car thats turned itsself off at a traffic light and wont go back on! :'(

Or am I just a pessimist?

I believe like many things it will get better.

Having said that though I've done 17,000 miles with it now and never switch it off myself.

Only fault I've had stopped the system from working, so the car was still perfectly fine to use.

At least faults stop it working, they don't stop the car from starting.

Mine has been recalled this week for this problem.

Been trying to dig the thread out but cannot find it, someone else has had a similar problem and it turned out to be a bent bonnet switch.

The Stop Start would not operate because the car thought the bonnet was open.

Hi all

That was me. I'll see if I can find the thread but the gist of it was that stop start never worked from pickup. Eventually after much head scratching from the dealer and emails to Czech HQ they found a sensor had come loose which was telling the computer that the bonnet was open. This disabled both stop start and the intermittent wiper setting.

I'd take it in if I was you.

Hope you get it sorted.

Oh, should have carried on reading. See you got it sorted. Good stuff!

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