Next day delivery from TMC, excellent service. Installation was very simple taking only 5 minutes. Started up as normal and gentle driving around the local streets was unchanged. Accelerating a little more introduced a slight hesitancy but this was during warm up and has been noted on other reports during the first drive following fitting presumably as the ECU needs to learn the new settings. Once warmed up the drive was smooth and responsive. The increase in performance was very evident while accelerating from 30 - 70. It seemed to be smoother and effortless in comparison to before and while it wasn't a 'kick in the pants' change the butt dyno can feel the difeerence (Claimed 105-125ps and 175-225nm). I scanned for fault codes before and after and there were no problems. I have not had chance to give it a proper assessment yet but will follow up.

Edited 13 August, 201114 yr by Fatbloke

Which engine please - diesel or petrol?

Which engine please - diesel or petrol?

Petrol 1.2 TSI 105

Suggest you look at this:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/209702-12tsi-remapped-finally/

Find a tuner who uses k-tech software and they can OBD map it

Edited 11 August, 201114 yr by Yeti-RS

Next day delivery from TMC, excellent service. Installation was very simple taking only 5 minutes. Started up as normal and gentle driving around the local streets was unchanged. Accelerating a little more introduced a slight hesitancy but this was during warm up and has been noted on other reports during the first drive following fitting presumably as the ECU needs to learn the new settings. Once warmed up the drive was smooth and responsive. The increase in performance was very evident while accelerating from 30 - 70. It seemed to be smoother and effortless in comparison to before and while it wasn't a 'kick in the pants' change the butt dyno can feel the difeerence (Claimed 105-125ps and 175-225nm). I scanned for fault codes before and after and there were no problems. I have not had chance to give it a proper assessment yet but will follow up.

Great news, look forward to more informaton as you see fit to post it.

Can you elaborate on the fitting. It is really 5 mins, needs tools ? Ramps or anything silly to fit it ? One man job?

Many thanks

Yeti RS, I think the re-map is for after the warranty has expired, I'll settle for a gentle pat on the backside rather than a big kick up the a**e for now. Interesting stuff though.

Bullyboy, fitting on the 1.2 is as simple as unplug, plug back in x 3 then plug the loom into the box. The 1.4 is a little more involved as you need to remove a section of the air intake between the manifold and the next joint back because a sensor that you need to access is directly below it. (there is a you tube video of it being done). It still doesn't take much longer. There is some feedback about it on vagsg.com (singapore) and the Audi A1 forum. There are also a lot of happy Fiat drivers out there that have used this product.

Just taken another short run although I've still not been able to give it a proper workout due to traffic. There is a modest gain when you are just on boost and midrange is much livelier. I'm yet to see +4krpm.

Great thanks the quick response. I am not mechanical minded at all, and just wondered what sort of job it was.

Thanks.

Keep us posted on how you get on.

We still haven't finialised our 1.2TSI as we still haven't had a willing victim, er, I mean, test pilot!

Very interested in this.

It's basically Stage 1 in a box isn't it?

Very interested in this.

It's basically Stage 1 in a box isn't it?

Essentially yes. 180ps 250nm engine goes to 215ps and 300nm

We still haven't finialised our 1.2TSI as we still haven't had a willing victim, er, I mean, test pilot!

screw the box, i would do the shark map!.

Are you guys able to do OBD mapping yet, have you heard of the k-tech software?.

screw the box, i would do the shark map!.

Are you guys able to do OBD mapping yet, have you heard of the k-tech software?.

Yes the 1.2TSI has always been OBD, just not with the STS (hence no good to you being in TW)

I wasn't aware that it could be mapped via the OBD port. I always thought it was a chip out job like the 1.4.

I wasn't aware that it could be mapped via the OBD port. I always thought it was a chip out job like the 1.4.

So since its OBD.... doesnt that mean the whole warranty thing is out the window and invalid?.

The box voids your warranty, just because you can remove it doesnt change a thing, you still mapped your car.

The proper remap is pretty much invisible to the dealers anyway.

I've not yet had chance to assess the effect on fuel consumption from an economy point of view but it has had a good run out on some hilly twisty NSL roads nearby. It has certainly delivered against my expectations. The bottom end pick up with 'drivers' foot is very good it zips up through the gears with no loss of smoothness but just goes through them quicker. The mid range has really come alive giving a significant boost to overtaking prowess and feeling generally nippier on hills and in the twisties. The top end of the rev range now feels less breathless, pulling for longer and making better use of the sport mode on DSG. The best way of summarising the improvements is less effort. Given any situation the car does it easier and smoother if you are pressing on. The problem with assessing engine changes lies in the DSG box that 'moderates' the 'feel' of what is happening. It requires a more frequent check of the speedo as you have gathered speed quicker and easier than previously. In terms of fuel consumption I have not been able to do one of my normal runs to compare but a spirited drive out gave me figures equal to or maybe slightly better than pre-box.

So since its OBD.... doesnt that mean the whole warranty thing is out the window and invalid?.

The box voids your warranty, just because you can remove it doesnt change a thing, you still mapped your car.

The proper remap is pretty much invisible to the dealers anyway.

This isn't OBD and doesn't touch the ECU at all. It modifies signals to and from the Cam position sensor, Boost pressure sensor and manifold air pressure sensor

Basically it lies to the ecu in order to trick it. The ecu will have a load of safety parameters built in. If the signals sent to the ecu etc are modified potentially the ecu would not notice a fault when it should.

Not saying it will happen but it could.

A really simple way of looking at it.

If the ecu was designed to cut boost at 1.2bar in the event of an issue(made up figures). Now for example lets say the tuning box modifies the signal by minus 0.2 bar so the ecu always runs sligtly higher boostthat would mean the ecu will only cut boost at 1.4 bar.

Obviously thats a really general and basic spin on it, but if its tricking the ecu by modifying the signals then surely something like above is possible. Another big issue for me is how much R&D goes into the tuning box. The tsi engines are notoriously awkward to tune. Also everycar deals with remaps etc in a different way. So whilst it might be great on one car, it could be a nightmare in another.

Another issue i see is what if thers an underlying issue with your car before hand. A tuner would scan and log the car before hand as well as after to ensure its safe to map and the map is working as designed. A reputable tuner will have done extensive tuning and R&D to ensure everything is perfect.

For me a remap is the way to go, but only if your willing to pay the money for a reputable experienced vag tuner, who understands and has experience with the ecu iin question.

I did a scan with VCDS before and after and no error codes came up. When you re-map the ECU properly does this not over-ride/overwrite the safety parameters?

These boxes are flashed with the relevant software for each engine type and while you only end up with what is effectively, a generically modified map, I believe it is fine if you plan no further mods in conjunction with it. These boxes seem very popular with people in the VAG singapore forum, the Audi A1 forum and for a long while with the Fiat fraternity and despite a lot of internet searching I was unable to find a single bad report about them.

I do appreciate what you are saying though.

The remap doesnt go over the factory safety limits.

It doesn't trick the stock ECU like these boxes do either, it just gives it a more 'efficient' way of running which the ECU then uses.

Over the past few days my car has gotten quicker and quicker, its FANTASTIC to drive, a completely different car than what came from the factory, its entering into hot hatch territory

If you have the cash, head down to Shark and get the 1.2 mapped properly, you will LOVE IT!!!!!!

I put a TMC box on my vRS today (will do a write up and guide soon).

Would love a custom map but was bought this and couldn't turn down a freebie. Will get a proper remap in the future.

Midrange is amazing now, car feels so much more alive.

Edited 13 August, 201114 yr by VRS-Powered

That sounds good about the mid range.

The vRS seems to be good through the mid range, but when you get to 5k it just takes off. I'd like to take off around 3.5/4k

That sounds good about the mid range.

The vRS seems to be good through the mid range, but when you get to 5k it just takes off. I'd like to take off around 3.5/4k

Definitely feels like it does, only had it on setting 7, will look for a close RR day ASAP and a trip to Santa Pod to test

Definitely feels like it does, only had it on setting 7, will look for a close RR day ASAP and a trip to Santa Pod to test

Thing is rolling road days are useless unless you have a base figure to rely on for comparison. If its reading high you will have no idea. Ideally you want to find a rolling road operator that will allow you to run it stock, then refit the box to see the gains over the stock map. That wasy it doesnt matter about the figures, instead you can see the gains between the two.

Any dynodynamics rollers near you. Where are you located. They are one of the/ few rolling roads ive found which dont grossly over read.

We have an RR day coming up and would be happy to run it in both modes for a half-scientific test

Thing is rolling road days are useless unless you have a base figure to rely on for comparison. If its reading high you will have no idea. Ideally you want to find a rolling road operator that will allow you to run it stock, then refit the box to see the gains over the stock map. That wasy it doesnt matter about the figures, instead you can see the gains between the two.

Any dynodynamics rollers near you. Where are you located. They are one of the/ few rolling roads ive found which dont grossly over read.

Very true Si, I would want to get both done (with and without) so it can be a true test.

We have an RR day coming up and would be happy to run it in both modes for a half-scientific test

That sounds great Ben, I was planning on being there already

**Guide now up on how to install**

Edited 14 August, 201114 yr by VRS-Powered