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I bought one of these kits off ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270807482365?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Does anyone know how to remove the MDI module from the plastic armrest mount? (I've taken out the two obvious screws but then got stuck).

If I need to start cutting fair enough, but it would be nice to take it apart without destroying it if possible?

I had intended to mount the module vehind the dash, but is this surround what you get in the maxibox in a factory fit?

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The kit you've bought is for fitment in the armrest - I think of the Golf Mk5/6.

If you remove the two Torx screws, you should be able to move the plastic between the actual MDI module and the rest of the assembly and slide the unit out. It takes a bit of persuading but you should be OK. If not then just butcher the surround, as you won't be using it anyway :)

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The kit you've bought is for fitment in the armrest - I think of the Golf Mk5/6.

If you remove the two Torx screws, you should be able to move the plastic between the actual MDI module and the rest of the assembly and slide the unit out. It takes a bit of persuading but you should be OK. If not then just butcher the surround, as you won't be using it anyway :)

I'll have another attempt to slide it out tonight, but I fear butchery will be the final result!

I can't remember exactly I'm afraid, as it's been a while since I looked at one like that. But as you're not going to require the armrest part, I wouldn't feel too bad about it :)

Will see if I can find any more info today though...

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OK got the unit fitted today...(not easy fitting the Kufatec piggy back lead at all!)

Anyway cut a long story short got every thing back together, Bolero working perfectly again but no sign of the MDI.

I've got power to my HDD through the USB but no media source appears on the screen.

I've got some downloaded VW instructions (for the correct part number I've got) for retrofitting MDI and they say coding is required as follows:

Menu points:

19 Diagnostic interface databus

007Coding (Servic $1A)

2E Media Player

Set Media Player to "coded"

Follow the queries and enter the relevant vehicle data

Confirm

Can anyone confirm? If this is needed (and it looks like it) I haven't got coding capabilities so I'll need to find someone who has....(pretty please)

(Link to VW instructions)

http://www.my-gti.com/wp-content/uploads/volkswagen_mdi_5N0057342.pdf

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I bought an MDI kit off eBay back in early Feb this year, I got my local car audio installation company to fit it (incase I marked/scratched any trim while fitting) and they didn't do any coding, just plugged the cabling that came with the kit into the back of the Bolero and bob's yer auntie. I had my MDI 'box' put in the glovebox though.

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I bought an MDI kit off eBay back in early Feb this year, I got my local car audio installation company to fit it (incase I marked/scratched any trim while fitting) and they didn't do any coding, just plugged the cabling that came with the kit into the back of the Bolero and bob's yer auntie. I had my MDI 'box' put in the glovebox though.

Oh dear. I'll check it all but I'm on a hiding to nothing unless I spot anything obvious.

Anyone got any suggestions?

To be honest I'm still minded to pursue the coding just to rule it out.

:'(

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Hi Juan27,

I seem to be having the same problem, I got my Octavia on Friday and fitted the MDI (which I bought off of eBay) over the weekend. The MDI powers up and charges iPhone ect... But says on the phone not a recommended accessory, the bolero doesn't see the MDI at all!

(edited) just checked my part code and it is 5N0 035 342D but it was advatised as 5N0 035 342B could this make any difference? It does say on the case Skoda.

Will keep an eye on your thread and hopefully we'll get a solution.

Chris

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Hi Juan27,

I seem to be having the same problem, I got my Octavia on Friday and fitted the MDI (which I bought off of eBay) over the weekend. The MDI powers up and charges iPhone ect... But says on the phone not a recommended accessory, the bolero doesn't see the MDI at all!

(edited) just checked my part code and it is 5N0 035 342D but it was advatised as 5N0 035 342B could this make any difference? It does say on the case Skoda.

Will keep an eye on your thread and hopefully we'll get a solution.

Chris

All I can think to do on mine is:

  1. Check connections to the unit and the USB lead
  2. Check I haven't damaged the Kufatec piggy back lead as its a bloody tight job to get it to fit (or at least mine was)
  3. Get the coding done (apparently unnecessary but VW docs include it, see earlier post and link)
  4. Test the unit somehow? (Can't imagine anyone else would really want to take their dash apart to help with this though)
  5. If its defective get a replacement (can't really return it as I had to cut the "armrest" mount off)

If I do find time soon to take apart my dash I'll confirm what my part number is, but I don't think there's too many variants and if you were sold it to work with the Bolero equivalent it should work or money back.

Just out of interest did you get yours from the same place as me?

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Hi Juan27

Yes I did get mine from the same place as you.

Can I ask you to check please;

1. If you press the media button do you see the "Media-In" button across the top if the screen? All I see is CD, SD & AUX.

2. What software version is your bolero? Mine is version A, maybe this makes a difference.

Does anyone know if Skoda charge for software upgrades ect...

Cheers,

Chris

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Hi Juan27

Yes I did get mine from the same place as you.

Can I ask you to check please;

1. If you press the media button do you see the "Media-In" button across the top if the screen? All I see is CD, SD & AUX.

2. What software version is your bolero? Mine is version A, maybe this makes a difference.

Does anyone know if Skoda charge for software upgrades ect...

Cheers,

Chris

I do not see Media-In either....I don't know what software version my Bolero is, I'll check later but its whatever came with a Sept 2010 car.

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just plugged the cabling that came with the kit into the back of the Bolero and bob's yer auntie.

Hmmm "just plugged the cabling" is the understatement of the year! In my experience unless your ICE guys have cut something away or remade the lead a little longer its a pig of a job. There's nowhere to put the piggy back connector directly behind the Bolero and its really tight to squeeze it through (with lots of trial and error) anywhere else. You're then left with a really short lead to the back of the Bolero which is a total PITA to get connected unless you've got hands the size of a toddler.

I admit I'm a little despondent having not managed to get my MDI to work but I've got about 10% less skin on my hands today!. Even though I haven't damaged any trim I reckon getting it fitted was money well spent for you.

(By the way anyone else if I've missed some obvious easy way to fit this cable please let me know I'm dreading the though of having to take it all apart again and refitting)

Can't see anything wrong with what you've written/checked so far. Did you take the top box out when fitting? Makes it a lot easier to route the cabling behind the Bolero as you can reach down and divert as necessary.

Anything with the setup screens on your Bolero? In case the Media-In option isn't enabled/selected?

Hi Wardy,

There is no option anywhere on the head-unit that refures to Media-In (only options are Cd, SD & AUX) which is why I was wondering if the software in later model cars doesn't allow MDI with out upgrade?

Chris

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Can't see anything wrong with what you've written/checked so far. Did you take the top box out when fitting? Makes it a lot easier to route the cabling behind the Bolero as you can reach down and divert as necessary.

Anything with the setup screens on your Bolero? In case the Media-In option isn't enabled/selected?

I did indeed take out the top box, Pretty much impossible otherwise as there's nowhere for the piggy back connector to go behind the Bolero on my car. I think later Octys maybe a lot tighter in this respect maybe?

There isn't any check box in the Bolero set-up to enable "Media In" that I've seen.

If you have one can you indicate where it is in the menu structure? Was/is it there even if the MDI is not connected?

I did see a screen with check boxes for Aux In and Bluetooth Audio (I haven't got BT though), but nothing about Media In.

Assuming others have a check box for Media In and I don't does that perhaps indicate I need to get the coding done?

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Hi Wardy,

There is no option anywhere on the head-unit that refures to Media-In (only options are Cd, SD & AUX) which is why I was wondering if the software in later model cars doesn't allow MDI with out upgrade?

Chris

Chris

I'm still in two minds about the VAG-COM coding I've posted about previously, but Oobster has posted he has had MDI retrofitted to a 2010 car with no coding or software updates.

It still seems to be worth a try though if the cost is not too high or you can get a friendly Briskodian to help:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/74720-list-of-vag-com-diagnostic-system-vcds-owners/

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Juan27, just been out to check my car (May 2010 car) and the part number on the MDI interface is 5NO 035 342B.

No idea what the difference is between a 342D and a B, but the B works in my car.

I also called up the guys at the car stereo place that fitted my MDI kit, and they said it was a straight plug and play, definitely no coding involved. Unplugged my stereo, added in the cable going to the MDI box, plugged it all back together again and it worked straight away.

The company I bought mine off on eBay is called Tech Toys Ltd: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/tech_toys_ltd

I'll check my MDI version later too, but it may be of no relevance in this case as I have a pre-FL.

Seeing as we have two members both with the same issue, are you able to post your 56-Radio scan results from VCDS, so the Bolero info can be compared? Once you've found a VCDS-equipped member of course :)

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Juan27, just been out to check my car (May 2010 car) and the part number on the MDI interface is 5NO 035 342B.

No idea what the difference is between a 342D and a B, but the B works in my car.

I also called up the guys at the car stereo place that fitted my MDI kit, and they said it was a straight plug and play, definitely no coding involved. Unplugged my stereo, added in the cable going to the MDI box, plugged it all back together again and it worked straight away.

The company I bought mine off on eBay is called Tech Toys Ltd: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/tech_toys_ltd

I'm pretty sure the 'D' just means a later revision of the same part. I've just seen a thread elsewhere on another forum indicating this is the part number on a new Jetta, can't imagine that's much different.

I believe you about no coding for yours but since there is an option to enable "Media In" by coding I think I need to rule this out. Perhaps the diagnostics might also point out if the unit is faulty?

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It will certainly mean that; but it then gets you thinking of whether anything else has changed, to make the difference between revision B and D. Plenty of other examples of them changing the design and operational efficiency on parts, as they progress through the revisions....

Certainly go through the options in VCDS for your Bolero Juan - no harm in checking. Pop into 56, then long coding. What's required for one car isn't necessarily the same for another.

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It will certainly mean that; but it then gets you thinking of whether anything else has changed, to make the difference between revision B and D. Plenty of other examples of them changing the design and operational efficiency on parts, as they progress through the revisions....

Certainly go through the options in VCDS for your Bolero Juan - no harm in checking. Pop into 56, then long coding. What's required for one car isn't necessarily the same for another.

Thanks. Its got to be a the way forward and I really want to check it before taking it all apart again. The fact that the Bolero is working and there's power to the HDD makes me lean towards the wiring being OK.

Its a shame those VW instructions I posted aren't date stamped, that might have given us a clue if the coding requirement detailed is "new"

I'm pretty sure there is a 'media in' tickbox in the long coding for the Bolero, so it's definitely worth checking your car out.

It's also possible that when you scan the car, there's now an error under 56-Radio, as you've connected the MDI but the coding's not correct. This would be the first thing to check, before going looking at the coding options directly.

Have you spotted someone nearby who can help out?

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I'm pretty sure there is a 'media in' tickbox in the long coding for the Bolero, so it's definitely worth checking your car out.

It's also possible that when you scan the car, there's now an error under 56-Radio, as you've connected the MDI but the coding's not correct. This would be the first thing to check, before going looking at the coding options directly.

Have you spotted someone nearby who can help out?

Not yet I must admit I am toying with the idea of getting the required s/w etc myself.

Can appreciate it's a difficult one for most people, as to how much use you'll get from it. It's a fair bit of cash after all....

There's a pretty recent thread about genuine UK distributors, if you've not already seen it. Think it was in the VCDS section.

Obviously if you were a bit further north I'd gladly take a look at it myself for you :thumbup:

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