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Hi was wondering if anyone had used the Street Blaster 150d nos kit from JBS?

It says up to 150bhp added but thats obviously the best case scenario so how much power can i really expect from it? Im currently running a shark stage 1 map which is plenty power for daily driving but would like the extra power from the nos when its playtime.

http://www.jbsautodesigns.co.uk/product/917/street-blaster-150d-kit

Cheers

It won't work, your car is a DIESEL, how are you going to inject the extra fuel to go with that extra oxygen?

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You tap into the fuel line and the injector injects fuel alongside the nos. I think theres two nozzles. Also from iv gathered u can get a nos specific map that injects a lot of fuel when at WOT. With the sgark box i could switch between normal remap and nos one when i know im gona be using it.

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You can't just inject extra diesel like that, it won't atomise unless the injection pressure is extremely high and the pressure in your fuel line is very low indeed.

Although it's possible, it just won't work and you clearly don't know enough to even start to solve such a complex problem.

All that aside the engine is not strong enough to cope with over 300 bhp even for a short time.

It must work it says it will fit on the website and look here saw this a few years ago, www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9vy0pduMA. Seems to give an impressive power gain. I would be interested to see the results if you go ahead with this.

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It must work it says it will fit on the website and look here saw this a few years ago, www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9vy0pduMA. Seems to give an impressive power gain. I would be interested to see the results if you go ahead with this.

Yeah coz its a diesel specific kit. Nos definately works on a diesel coz i met a guy at a cruise who had.an SE with nos on and thatshifted! He said it was running 260 bhp and when nos was on it was giving him 100bhp on top of that. Aint seen him since though.

Mine has a kit, and it doesn't add much. Mine is from wizards of nos.

You do need extra fuel though, via uprated fuel injectors or propane or similar. Mine just cleans up the smoke a bit and gives a bit more power. I don't use it day to day as so expensive to refill bottles, and the power increase is not massive. NO WAY will a nos kit on a diesel add 100bhp lol. :D

Well, in the general case, when it comes to doing anything with NOS, I'd trust WIzards of NOS over pretty much anyone else in the UK.

Diesels normally run in excess O2, except at full throttle. NOS adds O2, so where's any gain going to come from unless you're getting black smoke and hence over-fuelling?

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It does add extra o2 so thats why u need a lot more fuel going in too? Wont the gains be a lot more on a less tuned car than on a car thats already got a lot of power being pushed out by hybrid turbos and uprated injectors etc? Looking at that video posted further up it gave that diesel golf a good kick up the rear end.

Yeah coz its a diesel specific kit. Nos definately works on a diesel coz i met a guy at a cruise who had.an SE with nos on and thatshifted! He said it was running 260 bhp and when nos was on it was giving him 100bhp on top of that. Aint seen him since though.

if it was at trafford then his name is chris good lad scary car

It does add extra o2 so thats why u need a lot more fuel going in too? Wont the gains be a lot more on a less tuned car than on a car thats already got a lot of power being pushed out by hybrid turbos and uprated injectors etc? Looking at that video posted further up it gave that diesel golf a good kick up the rear end.

IMO on its own it won't do much. On a standard VRS it'll keep the air cool when the stock intercooler would otherwise lose the plot. You'll pick up some extra BHP from a cooler charge and maybe a better burn from the extra O2. One issue is that the NOS is injected post-MAF. The ECU can't see the extra volume of air, nor can it know it needs extra fuel. You'd need a NOS specific remap and rolling road time to sort it all out properly. If I guessed at 180-190BHP, I think I'd be close, as the stock turbo can't flow enough for bigger BHP. If you try it'll likely blow up or melt.

The stock PD injectors are rumoured to max out at 230BHP maximum. To achieve that IMO you'd need a decat and/or a bigger turbo plus the NOS.

J.

It must work it says it will fit on the website and look here saw this a few years ago, www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9vy0pduMA. Seems to give an impressive power gain. I would be interested to see the results if you go ahead with this.

Awesome dude, your faith in web marketing is touching, and that's an old-tech Golf TDI NOT a PD engine in the video, the system shown won't work on the PD engined VRS.

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if it was at trafford then his name is chris good lad scary car

Yup thats the guy!

Awesome dude, your faith in web marketing is touching

:D @ this. Anything the Internet says it right 100% bahahaha.

Might as well bag yourself a resistor mod of the bay along with some fuel line magnets

Is this Chris fella on ere then? Just wudnt mind having a nosey over his car. Seems to be gaining a bit of a reputation around Manchester.

:D @ this. Anything the Internet says it right 100% bahahaha.

Might as well bag yourself a resistor mod of the bay along with some fuel line magnets

...and don't forget the electric supercharger, only £99.99!!!!!

...and don't forget the electric supercharger, only £99.99!!!!!

Or....£7.99 from Argos emoticon-0105-wink.gif

Is this Chris fella on ere then? Just wudnt mind having a nosey over his car. Seems to be gaining a bit of a reputation around Manchester.

tbh i have no idea never really asked but he might be pleased to know his car is getting noticed

Mine has a kit, and it doesn't add much. Mine is from wizards of nos.

You do need extra fuel though, via uprated fuel injectors or propane or similar. Mine just cleans up the smoke a bit and gives a bit more power. I don't use it day to day as so expensive to refill bottles, and the power increase is not massive. NO WAY will a nos kit on a diesel add 100bhp lol. :D

As usual Jason is spot on. :thumbup:

You are never going to get a big increase in power like petrols do from a mix of gas and fuel.

A 1.9 PD claimed to have 260bhp with a 100bhp NOS jet won't be running the two bhp totals added together IMO. Probably far less.

For the money you would be spending on the nos kit, you would be better off looking at proven performance improvments for the engine.

What about an intercooler?? Or use the money to save up for a new turbo, or uprated injectors?

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i read a post on the uk-mkiv site earlier that was talking about this kit when it came out with JBS. It said revo had a nos specific map where the map was standard until full throttle where it would dump a load of fuel in which is when the nos fires. Would it not be possible to get shark to tweak my current map (but still keep my current map as is on the sts) so that on full throttle the injectors would be injecting the max they could ie what they would be doing when the car is mapped to 220ish bhp? Or will they still not flow enough in?

i read a post on the uk-mkiv site earlier that was talking about this kit when it came out with JBS. It said revo had a nos specific map where the map was standard until full throttle where it would dump a load of fuel in which is when the nos fires. Would it not be possible to get shark to tweak my current map (but still keep my current map as is on the sts) so that on full throttle the injectors would be injecting the max they could ie what they would be doing when the car is mapped to 220ish bhp? Or will they still not flow enough in?

I don't know about unit injector engines, but running 100% duty cycle is ok on mechanical pump and common rail engines. As to how much extra power you'd get from doing it, that would be dependant on how much of the injector duty cycle you're already using, and I'd advise taking Shark's guidance on that.

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