Hi all.

First time poster, long time viewer...

Anyway, my 2007 Octavia Vrs PD 170bhp (49000Miles, FSH) had the dreaded injector failure and died completely and stayed that way. 3rd injector showing as the fault. After much battle with VW Ireland, Skoda UK came to rescue and arranged to have it sorted in NI.

So car towed to NI and 4 of the upgraded injectors and wiring loom replaced FOC. New battery also installed.

Received phone call today from dealer that the mentioned work was carried out but was still a non start but is turning over just not firing. She said something about the ECU and asked if they could change the crank shaft position sensor so i approve and will see what tomorrow will bring.

What worries me is the mention of the ECU at £900... I am dubious that this is the problem.

I will requested an e-mail of the fault codes presenting to the dealer and post them here.

I was thinking that the ECU relay/Fuses could be the problem? Or a re-flash/re-set of the ECU which she says they have done....

Any ideas to get the car starting again?!!! (Will post the codes tomorrow evening if they e-mail me them)

I would argue and say that the faulty injectors has caused the problem and they should deal with it! not you end up paying money

Your car is in the best place.

Skoda confirmed the fact that the faulty injector was at fault. As far as you are concerned the car was running fine up until the injector failed.

Skoda agreed to fix the fault. They haven't.

Leave it with them until they do but make it perfectly clear that you aren't paying for their 'process of elimination' fault finding exercise.

Edited 16 December, 201114 yr by silver1011

Your car is in the best place.

Skoda confirmed the fact that the faulty injector was at fault. As far as you are concerned the car was running fine up until the injector failed.

Skoda agreed to fix the fault. They haven't.

Leave it with them until they do but make it perfectly clear that you aren't paying for their 'process of elimination' fault finding exercise.

Thats true.. I have not been on to Dan Latta (who compared to VW Ireland, has been excellent) Skoda UK since the car went up so i will give him a phone call. The non-start issue has to be related to the dodgy injectors that have been swapped out now.

Its a pity that the BMN engine is letting such a great car down. Hopefully the upgraded injector swap will sort it.

Now only if they can get it started....

Will let know what happens..

Thats true.. I have not been on to Dan Latta (who compared to VW Ireland, has been excellent) Skoda UK since the car went up so i will give him a phone call. The non-start issue has to be related to the dodgy injectors that have been swapped out now.

Its a pity that the BMN engine is letting such a great car down. Hopefully the upgraded injector swap will sort it.

Now only if they can get it started....

Will let know what happens..

Still a non start after loom and injector swap

E-mailed the following by main dealer....

Mot6000 - (P0321) Engine speed sender-G28 Implausible signal

Engine speed sender -G28-

(G28__1Z_23BMN_1_0707_31)

-

Mot6000 - (P1388) Control unit faulty

Change control unit

(SYS23_1Z_BJB_1_1103_31_Steuergeraet_defekt)

-

Mot6000 - (P0341) Camshaft Position Sensor (A) Circuit Range/Performance

Hall sender -G40-

(G40__1Z_23BMN_1_0707_31)

The G28 speed sensor has been changed so ignore that one.

Basically been told the injectors fried the ECU whilst shorting themselves.

The P1388 fault code looks like a faulty ECU at a cost of £900.

Surely an ECU failure like this is a rare event.

Any other ideas from people who know their stuff???

Is the car in Mervyn Stewarts in Belfast? If so, complain like fook to SkodaUK and you'll in turn get the dealer principle on the phone. That is the process i've just gone through

Is the car in Mervyn Stewarts in Belfast? If so, complain like fook to SkodaUK and you'll in turn get the dealer principle on the phone. That is the process i've just gone through

It is currently at that franchise yes.. IN fairness they have been keeping me updated on the issues but i find it hard to take that a 4year old car with FSH and only 49000Miles could be becoming a complete money pit. Has not fired up since July but that was me being stubborn with VW Ire.

Phone call to Skoda UK will be done first thing in the AM.

Can any technical minded person give any other reason for the

Mot6000 - (P1388) Control unit faulty

Change control unit

(SYS23_1Z_BJB_1_1103_31_Steuergeraet_defekt)

fault at all?? Bar a knackered ECU??

Car just died doing 60MPH or so. Diagnosed as bad diesel by the good folk in Ireland!!! But its turned out to be the Injectors shorting as i told them 3 months ago.. Is the ECU fault a by product of this? If so, Skoda UK surely will cover it

Edited 20 December, 201114 yr by beherenow

If the injectors fried the ECU and the injectors are being changed FOC under a recall then surely as a by product of this they should change the ECU FOC as well?

That would be my argument too.

i'm no expert, but I had a non starting 2.0tdi back in 2008, dealer wanted £1300 for ecu, discussed with my brother a mechanic in Oz and some guy's on here,told the dealer to f"£$$% off

towed the car home disconnected the cooling fans as suggested disconecting the battery for 20 mins the car started first turn on reconecting the battery,

controller in the fan was faulty and was corupting the ecu.

there were no faults registering on the SKODA unit or VAGCOM during this whole issue, just a car that failed to start.

I have done a further 100,000 miles with this car and it has never missed a beat since, not bad for a car with 180k on the clock now

S

i'm no expert, but I had a non starting 2.0tdi back in 2008, dealer wanted £1300 for ecu, discussed with my brother a mechanic in Oz and some guy's on here,told the dealer to f"£$$% off

towed the car home disconnected the cooling fans as suggested disconecting the battery for 20 mins the car started first turn on reconecting the battery,

controller in the fan was faulty and was corupting the ecu.

there were no faults registering on the SKODA unit or VAGCOM during this whole issue, just a car that failed to start.

I have done a further 100,000 miles with this car and it has never missed a beat since, not bad for a car with 180k on the clock now

S

Well I've been talking to Skoda UK and they've informed me a flat NO re: covering cost of ECU replacement.

Dealer has stated that the fault might be related to the injector failure and only thing they can do is recommend ecu (part no: 03g906018el) replacement at circa £600!!!

I am still dubious as to this diagnosis.

In my mind it could be ECU relay/wiring loom to ECU/requires re-flash or software update..

Main Dealer state all this has been checked. I can not confirm this as i haven't visually checked the car as too far away.

Surely an ECU is not a "wear and tear item" and there must be another reason?

Anyone else have any experience with a problem like this?

Edited 18 January, 201214 yr by beherenow

Well I've been talking to Skoda UK and they've informed me a flat NO re: covering cost of ECU replacement.

Dealer has stated that the fault might be related to the injector failure and only thing they can do is recommend ecu (part no: 03g906018el) replacement at circa £600!!!

I am still dubious as to this diagnosis.

In my mind it could be ECU relay/wiring loom to ECU/requires re-flash or software update..

Main Dealer state all this has been checked. I can not confirm this as i haven't visually checked the car as too far away.

Surely an ECU is not a "wear and tear item" and there must be another reason?

Anyone else have any experience with a problem like this?

Your car is a 2007 car, so if you purchased it from a skoda dealer, just bring up the little matter of the Sales of Goods Act and of goods being of a suitable quality. If a car less than 6 years and of a non silly mileage, needs something as major as an ECU changing, then IMHO it's not fit for purpose.

If your dealer plays hard on it, speak to the CAB and put it to them in a letter, setting out time lines and send it recorded delivery so you get a signature. If they keep playing silly sods, I think it's only about £50 to take them to court.

Your car is a 2007 car, so if you purchased it from a skoda dealer, just bring up the little matter of the Sales of Goods Act and of goods being of a suitable quality. If a car less than 6 years and of a non silly mileage, needs something as major as an ECU changing, then IMHO it's not fit for purpose.

If your dealer plays hard on it, speak to the CAB and put it to them in a letter, setting out time lines and send it recorded delivery so you get a signature. If they keep playing silly sods, I think it's only about £50 to take them to court.

Does the SOGA actually apply in Ireland where the OP is from though?

Fault P1388

17796/P1388/005000

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Hi, As with post 3 , I agree that the injector failure has caused damage to the ecu and should be replaced foc

Edited 18 January, 201214 yr by freelanderman

Does the SOGA actually apply in Ireland where the OP is from though?

I saw NI and figured it was the north.

Sure the south has similar legislation though, so worth having a look.

Well all,

Just wondering does anyone with knowledge of ECU's could help me with above?

Vrs Tdi 2007 went in as a non-start for injector and loom recall. Dealer says they have done this but now are saying I need a new ECU (Part no:03g906018el) circa £600 as it is still a non start!!

Showing the following code

Mot6000 - (P1388) Control unit faulty

Change control unit

(SYS23_1Z_BJB_1_1103_31_Steuergeraet_defekt)

The dealer emailed me this fault code..

For a car with 49000Miles and FSH I am a bit dubious about all this.

Anyone have advice or seen this before? Could it be a simpler problem like a relay/fuse etc?

Thanks in advance.

Edited 7 February, 201214 yr by beherenow

Fault P1388

17796/P1388/005000

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Check Throttle Position Sensors

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Edited 7 February, 201214 yr by 07 vRS Taxi