Ok this maybe a little bit of a biased view as I have the ITG but......

ITG do a lot of testing on their kits, every single one (I believe) is built on a demo/customers car and tested to make sure it gives the best possible performance. As vRSy has said, ITG have a racing pedigree and the kits they put out are quality.

The below is from Scirocco Central website, the ITG kit test was on a REVO Stage 1 1.4 TSi (kit using the front slam panel).

dyno graphs from different runs comparing stock intake and the ITG intake for the 1.4tsi running Revo Stage 1, figures are are whp figures

graph below show consistent improvement accross the rev range

not as linear but larger peak gains

un 3 is stock intake

run 5 & 6 are with ITG

those are WHEEL figures quoted on the dyno plots.

from seeing dynojet graphs previously, transmission loss likely to be around 30bhp as a guess, so non ITG it'd be around ~220bhp @ Flywheel, and ~ 230bhp @ flywheel with ITG in place. both on Revo S1 map.

Taking this post into consideration it's quite possible to see up to a 10bhp gain from the filter.

I know a lot of people have said that it does not look as neat as the Forge unit but I find it fine. I have to say I was very tempted by the Forge unit but after seeing posts like this it convinced me the extra cost was well worth it

Ok this maybe a little bit of a biased view as I have the ITG but......

ITG do a lot of testing on their kits, every single one (I believe) is built on a demo/customers car and tested to make sure it gives the best possible performance. As vRSy has said, ITG have a racing pedigree and the kits they put out are quality.

The below is from Scirocco Central website, the ITG kit test was on a REVO Stage 1 1.4 TSi (kit using the front slam panel).

Taking this post into consideration it's quite possible to see up to a 10bhp gain from the filter.

I know a lot of people have said that it does not look as neat as the Forge unit but I find it fine. I have to say I was very tempted by the Forge unit but after seeing posts like this it convinced me the extra cost was well worth it

That really does look promising. Glad I went with it in the end.

With the ITG maxogen on the Polo GTI (bigger filter as no front battery) I went from 220bhp to 236bhp, just with the intake swap. If you can afford to relocate the battery to the rear or fit a smaller race battery, then I reckon the gains are worth it if you are after the best bhp.

I might get the itg, ditch the tumble dryer pipe and use silicon hosing instead?

The "tumble dryer pipe" is desighned to be heat repellant plus its alot more flexable then silicon which your going to need it to be lookin at the pictures

I suppose that the in tidy look is a small compromise for 10bhp gain on a remapped car. I would almost say its a necessity for a remapped car to breath better than stock?

Its not a necessity for a stage 1 but when your stage 2 you will notice the stock intake (or Forge intake IMO ) start to become restrictive to the turbo so its not needed, you'll still achieve 210-220Hp without it, but you'll be making alot more with it after.

Ref the tumble drier pipe. Its also has a very large diameter which will reduce the intake restriction further.

Ok :-) thanks vrsy, I only used that to describe that pipe cause I heard someone else say the same and it sounded funny :-| ha!

is there any benfit of using a "twin intake" like system seen on some golfs for the vrs?

assuming you got around the battery solution.

From what i gather, Forge used two canisters on the TFSI twintake because each canister was rated at 200Hp. So that intake could be used on a car upto 400hp.

You would be hard pushed to fit in 2 canisters in the fabia!!

is there any benfit of using a "twin intake" like system seen on some golfs for the vrs?

assuming you got around the battery solution.

have a look at green cotton dual conical powerflow filters(effectivly 2 cones in 1) mate their american website tells you which bhp they can handle plus all the measurments you will need

im planning on making my own system using one rated at 300bhp so surley that would see some gains

have a look at green cotton dual conical powerflow filters(effectivly 2 cones in 1) mate their american website tells you which bhp they can handle plus all the measurments you will need

im planning on making my own system using one rated at 300bhp so surley that would see some gains

Do you have any links?

Do you have any links?

http://www.greenfilters.com/ http://www.green-filter.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=622_762_763&products_id=100263 then use the product code(ca2.60) to match with the american site as i couldnt get a direct link for it there but its rated at 352bhp, but i havent measured the space in the bay up so havent decided which size but i should be able to make one of them fit with a shield and some flexi or solid piping

http://www.greenfilters.com/ http://www.green-filter.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=622_762_763&products_id=100263 then use the product code(ca2.60) to match with the american site as i couldnt get a direct link for it there but its rated at 352bhp, but i havent measured the space in the bay up so havent decided which size but i should be able to make one of them fit with a shield and some flexi or solid piping

what are you going to do about isolating it from the engine bay heat? This could work, but some form of heat barrier, maybe a foam cut out like on the 2.0TFSI ITG maxogen might be an idea to isolate it from the engine bay and ethen ensure that there are cold air feeds getting into the sectioned area.

Point of note: Tumers tend to believe for every 1⁰C rise in temperature you will lose approx 1Hp.

So if its ingesting hot engine bay air, ie when your stationary or when theres very small flow into the engine bay, you will heatsoak quite badly and lose power.

See I ask this as my college has said it would part fund my final assessment. Since I've decided to do mines on the links between air intakes and output performance I've managed to swag a part funding for an induction kit haha!

I already have my viper set up but I'm not entirely keen on the layout and wanted to change it. The college said they'd pay for a few silicone pipes so I was going to re-arrange it.

Since they said that I found this on the site I was going to get the hoses from

http://www.apmotorstore.co.uk/stainless-steel-f-double-adapter-induction-pipe.html

I had an idea that I could lead a single cone off one arm down into the High pressure zone where the ITG is meant to be focused, and another having air channelled from the air inlet like normal.

Crazy?

maybe extend the filter to down behind/below the battery if possible away from the heat. This is quite a common technique in Modifed cars. Forge and neuspeed have filters like this on the TFSI and 1.8T

See I ask this as my college has said it would part fund my final assessment. Since I've decided to do mines on the links between air intakes and output performance I've managed to swag a part funding for an induction kit haha!

I already have my viper set up but I'm not entirely keen on the layout and wanted to change it. The college said they'd pay for a few silicone pipes so I was going to re-arrange it.

Since they said that I found this on the site I was going to get the hoses from

http://www.apmotorstore.co.uk/stainless-steel-f-double-adapter-induction-pipe.html

I had an idea that I could lead a single cone off one arm down into the High pressure zone where the ITG is meant to be focused, and another having air channelled from the air inlet like normal.

Crazy?

I like it!!!! It would fit behind the battery with no issues. You could even extend the filters further with some silicone!!

Two enclosed filters would be even better. One from the slam panel, one from the headlight.

I actually like the idea of this, and im off searching the net to make this work!!

Yeah thats what I was thinking.

Have the F pipe connected, then a silicone pipe leading the filter down and have it positioned just beside the power steering reseviour/ battery tray and another where my Viper currently sits, or slightly further back with some air ducting pipe guiding air onto it and shielding heat

what are you going to do about isolating it from the engine bay heat? This could work, but some form of heat barrier, maybe a foam cut out like on the 2.0TFSI ITG maxogen might be an idea to isolate it from the engine bay and ethen ensure that there are cold air feeds getting into the sectioned area.

Point of note: Tumers tend to believe for every 1^{0[/,sup]C rise in temperature you will lose approx 1Hp.}

^{So if its ingesting hot engine bay air, ie when your ,,,stationary or when theres very small flow into the engine bay, you will heatsoak quite badly and lose power.}

^{Would be similar to the itg kit but bigger and hopefully leading to out the front of the car somewhere, may need to have a look where the itg leads too. As for heat isolation it would be between heat wrap, foam and a heat reflective material however i wouldnt be keen on the first or last options as they put heat back into the engine bay. Just a had slight brain wave i could try and open up the front grill and direct cold air to flow around the area where the filter would be to try and reduce heat around it....not sure if this would work too well though, was only a thought}

^{Idealy id burn a hole in the bonnet above the space with the air box is and mount the filter under it and weld a shield around it so it was totaly block off but im not prepared todo this for a few reason but its what i would do in an ideal world}

Apmaman just out of intrest....what college course you doing sounds quite good : )

Considering the heat these engines produce, I'm dumbfounded that Skoda didn't vent the bonnet ?

However looking at the size of this

and the space behind the battery

I think it might be very very tight in there.

Id be doubtful that you could even bend a hose around that space to even make the front slam panel, and also looking at the engine bay, is there room for a filter?

Need photos of it without the battery

Apmaman just out of intrest....what college course you doing sounds quite good : )

I am doing a HND Engineering systems. Its a course that covers, electrical, mechanical, electronic, and "renewable" engineering practices.

My Graded unit is a case study which we can pick a topic on ourselves. Most have went for something like creating a car park with 64 spaces and created a scale model of it, or a completely automated green house. Another lad is using Lego cars and a ramp to prove a few physics laws based around mechanics.

I decided to show how changing my cars intake system to something else would improve its performance. Like air/fuel ratio's peak engine output at RPM's and intake temps etc etc.

God Bless Torque, everything can be pasted into excel and plotted from that! Saves me a ton of work haha!

However looking at the size of this

and the space behind the battery

I think it might be very very tight in there.

Id be doubtful that you could even bend a hose around that space to even make the front slam panel, and also looking at the engine bay, is there room for a filter?

Need photos of it without the battery

Could you not rotate the F to point downwards slightly? there is a huge amount of space from there down to the top of the gear box. Then have a 90° or maybe a 45° elbow silicone pipe leading..

In that picture the ITG would probably have to moved forward be squeezed between the battery and the bulkhead where it looks like theres a HID ballest. Then have a filter run right to the front where the OEM air inlet is, or perhaps have it hang just above the gearbox and run an air duct pipe too it.

Edited 6 February, 201214 yr by apmaman

Nae bad for some : ) im doing a mechanical engineering apprenticeship just now and next year we have design and make so im planning on doing an exhaust as we have all the equipment we need : )

Ahh nice one. I'd love to do something like that but we dont have that much practical work which is disappointing. We've made a tool box, an adjustable spanner and are getting to play with the welders to make a metal lily.

Back on topic a little, is the ITG 'pre-oiled' from the factory ?