Changing DSG shift habits?

[TeebsVRS]

Is it correct that you can influence the shift habits of D mode in DSG if you drive around manually for a few hundred miles?

 

D shifts far too early for my liking making the car feel sluggish, but S mode is too rev happy as well.

[James I]

We have found with our car that gear change is swift enough but usually because of throttle stabbing, so not feathering the throttle, I have not noticed the gearbox learning although some say they have with there cars.

[Sparkly]

For me the gearbox definitely adapts in the same way the engine does when you improve airflow.

Things like going up inclines and how long the car holds gear is directly related to how you drive and changes. This for me is very noticable.

However I don't know how the calculation is made and how the DSG adapts exactly, on the road a weeks driving seems enough to impact.

[gadgetman]

I hope you can.

[sharkrider]

if you want different changes, simply drive in manual, and change whenever you want using the paddles

[lol-lol]

For me the gearbox definitely adapts in the same way the engine does when you improve airflow.

Things like going up inclines and how long the car holds gear is directly related to how you drive and changes. This for me is very noticable.

However I don't know how the calculation is made and how the DSG adapts exactly, on the road a weeks driving seems enough to impact.

 

DSG have a inclinometer in the box but I am not sure it has a learn mode for paddles/tiptronic as it would assume you are in D or S most of the time.  Sensors wear and decay and have to work with the engine management unit and human input and those inputs sometime confuse and confound the box.  

 

Overall a great box though needs more ratios, at least one possibly 3.

[Sparkly]

I was referring to Drive mode learning, made no claim as to how, manual seems unlikely. My guess would have been tracking how throttle is applied, regularity aggression etc possibly holding gear longer if you boot it a lot in drive.

My car 'seems' to want to hold gears more if I have engaged in some brisk progress. Most notable uphill where the hold can seem excessive.

All interesting info though

[OzFabia]

I just took a holiday trip of 1200km with cruise on for a lot of that time. The car was definitely sluggish to accelerate when I went back to "normal" driving. It was fun re-educating it, though.

[lol-lol]

I was referring to Drive mode learning, made no claim as to how, manual seems unlikely. My guess would have been tracking how throttle is applied, regularity aggression etc possibly holding gear longer if you boot it a lot in drive.

My car 'seems' to want to hold gears more if I have engaged in some brisk progress. Most notable uphill where the hold can seem excessive.

All interesting info though

 

Whilst the engine has good torque from low down with the supercharger best power start at around 4K revs ie 160 hp and is declining by 6k when seen on a dyno measuring back wheel hp rather than what we are told where the engine peaks ie 6.2K so keeping the engine in this range is key to best performance which is best done with paddles/tiptronic.  Drive mode seems too conservative ie keeps the revs low for economy and should be called cruise mode IMO.

 

Sport mode is too far the other way keeping the revs at the upper end of the 4-6K rev band and does not feel to give best acceleration so I find it best to change to manual/paddles/tiptronic and keep it in this range. Pain manual of dog legged from Drive rather than sport, wrong choice by VAG IMO.  Whilst I have heard that the DSGs do learn driver behavior it does appear adapt to the driver particularly to amount of throttle depressed and when to change but it always seem to end up as above ie too conservative in Drive and too revvy in Sport so still move to manual/paddles/tiptronic when 10/10 ths driving.

 

8 or 10 gears in the VRS version of the Rapid Spaceback/Coupe when it hopefully comes to replacing the Fabia 2 VRS. 

[gadgetman]

I've found this

http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthread.php?4566688

So you can teach it, it seems

[gadgetman]

Our Touran has just been in for a coolant leak, and to replace the faulty part the battery must have been disconnected as it no longer changes up too early or kicks down at odd times

[Guest]

Teebs, as the guys are really saying, all modern auto's detect your driving style and adjust the gear changes accordingly. Even my 3 year old tiptronic 1.6 16v learns from my driving styles ie: if I'm being aggressive with the throttle it runs a more aggressive gear change map more in line with what I want and further adapts it to suit exactly what I want. If I drive economically, it changes up more quickly and doesn't drop down to lower gears so easily without me being firm with the throttle.

[gadgetman]

Someone also posted in you turn on the ignition but don't start and press the accelerator pedal for 20 seconds it will reset the dsg memory

[Ootohere]

Because they posted that, it does not mean it has any relevance or actually does anything to the DQ200,

as fitted to the 1.4 TSI 180PS S-A.

 

But anyone that wanted could just try it, 'What is the worst that could happen?'.

 

george

[Sparkly]

18.............19................20

 

[Ootohere]

Sorry, Very Off subject,

i watched 'The Mechanic' 2011 Jason Statham version last night,

the above post was pretty much how the last 5 minutes was.

 

george

[newbie69]

Sorry, Very Off subject,

i watched 'The Mechanic' 2011 Jason Statham version last night,

the above post was pretty much how the last 5 minutes was.

 

george

 

 

Quite a cinephile movie that one... 

[tonyfvrs]

Is there going to be a rapid 'Rapid', because the current range is certainly not rapid?

No petrol DSG either I believe.

Tony

[Sparkly]

Someone had some Rapid alloys up for sale on here.

Didn't have funds to add them to the collection but whilst ogling them I noticed that the top spec model looked to be sporting 312mm's or at least 288mm's

I personally think Skoda have some 'plans' for the Rapid

[wrightcnc2009]

If skoda do have plans to make a rapid vrs i really-really hope they put a proper brake set up on it and set a sensible ride height!