How much oil would you say was in the VRS from the dipstick showing full amount to oil light coming on?

 

I had an oil consumption test and they said that I had passed...

 

After the test (I'm presuming they filled up my oil to the top as that's what they want to charge me for) I have driven 1,211 miles and the oil light has come on again!!! 

Under a litre, I think...

Depends how name miles have been driven. The more miles the lower the oil. .... ;-)

Edited 5 December, 201312 yr by vRSy

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/230124-low-oil-warning-light

 

Actually you just have an Oil burner and it needs fixing,

their Oil Consumption test they did was pants.

 

Why did you leave it unchecked for 1211 miles,  ?

 

They can end up accusing you of attempting to ruin the engine.

They say maybe uses 0.5 litres per 621 miles.

 

**** You need to see how much oil is needed to get it to the correct level now, and that will be with 3.6 litres in,

 if it has used over a litre in 1200 miles then too much oil.

 

but once the 3.6 capacity is low by 1 litre that is  over 25% below the correct level (oil capacity)

it does then have the engine running hot, with low oil pressure and at risk of failure.

 

best get your Warranty work done and a new engine.****

Thanks for all the replies. I have never driven it more than ten miles with the oil light on. I wouldn't risk ruining the engine. I think I have answered my own question now as I just put one litre of oil in when the light was on and it has filled it to just under half way. Is using over two liters of oil in 1200 miles exceptable?? As they are chasing me to pay the amount for the first oil test £108!!! My car is only 4 months old... Surely I shouldn't have to pay if my car is using that much oil ??

Is this your invoice from them??

(pic posted at foot of page.)

 

If this is not yours, what does yours show,

what does the Report Say, weight of Oil used in 300 km.??

 

That is the wrong weight of 3.6 litres of Oil.

So wrong and useless test, Start Weigh, End Weight, Oil Used.  

Just nonsense test and certainly does not show the engine to be within acceptable limits.

Actually shows them to be incompetent.

 

Phone Skoda UK Customers Services,   I would also get a Solicitor Involved.

and tell them this was done, Send the Email with a picture, Keep that Invoice Safe.

3.6 Litres of oil weighs around 3100 grams.

 

Engine oil does not weigh 1000 grams a litre.

 

You are due the Money back you paid for the Oil Consumption test, due an Apology , Due Compensation,

& a New Engine.

Extended 2 Year Warranty & a new Engine as a minimum i would accept or Sue the Dealership & Skoda UK.

 

Contact 'Trading Standards' and Raise a Case, Contact the 'Motor Traders Association'.

 

EDIT> 12th Jan 2017 a wrong invoice, test not fit for purpose and owner got a new engine eventually.

Edited 11 January, 20179 yr by Offski

You shouldn't have to pay for the Oil Consumption Test and have a word with SUK if they persist.

 

George (sk4gw) has a plethora of information collected on the issue

Depends how name miles have been driven. The more miles the lower the oil. .... ;-)

 

And who's vRS we are talking about....

Lookers Skoda in Stockport told me that if my oil light hasn't come on after 1000 miles then that is deemed acceptable.

I'm topping up a litre every 3000 miles or so.

& did you believe them that is an acceptable way to use and drive a Twincharger,?  what if the Light does not work, ?

or when it does come on the car requires 1.5- 2 litres of oil to take it back up to the correct level.

 

3.6 litre short by 1 litre, less than 75% of Capacity,  

or 3.6 litres short by 2 litres  when you see a light and you have only 1.6 litres of oil in.

Below is my invoice: 

 

 

Ill give the garage a ring in a bit and see what they say  

 

Thanks again for all the replies and help, much appreciated!

They all like showing the figure of around 0.3 litres per 1000 km, by doing 300km (186 miles or so)

 

 even if a car drinks oil at a high rate ever 621, 1242 miles or what ever.  That is Real World oil consumption.

 

186 miles of driving might use very little oil if you are at 3.6 litres to start with.

Multiplying what is used in 300 km, does not really show what 1000 km usage might have been,

 

When you have covered 600 miles and not checked and topped up and it has maybe used, 0.5 litres, 

then the next 0.5 litre might be used sooner.

 

Skoda UK only have 2200 Twincharger vRS out there on UK roads, 

and several thousand Cupra, GTi, A1,  

They are lucky most are OK, they need to deal with the ones that are not.

 

They need to stop this fixing the Oil Consumption tests, by them being done over 300 km. and having the cheek of Owners paying for them.

When it is said that 'With in Acceptable Limits/tolerances'

 

0.5 litres per 1000 km (621 miles) can never been deemed as acceptable just because they say it is.

 

12,000 miles a year driver topping up with 1 litre every 1200 miles, or 10 litres or so a year, @ £8 a litre,

then changing oil and filter after 12 months.

Total Joke.

JVickery92,  

 

just so that we know,  how many miles did the car actually do between Part 1 of the test and Part 2 they did ?

 

Did they do a Weighing of the Oil & give you the report showing the figures?

I did just over 300 miles (as I was told to do) 

I did ask them to send me a report and all they sent me was the image that I attached above...

They said that they took the old oil out, put new (weighed) oil in, told me to drive 300 miles or more and give it back to them.

So I drove up to South Wales and back...

Upon giving it back they said that they took the oil out weighed it again and did some weird multiplication calculation to work out that I was using just under the 'you have a problem' thresh-hold ...

That might have been the problem.  It should be 300 miles of normal usage (going to the shops, stuck in traffic etc) rather than a single 300 mile trip.  Usage seems to higher during the cold start phase rather than when at temperature. from what I've read - most others *unless it uses a stupid amount* have magically passed when doing the mileage test in one long drive, and it still uses the same "top it up every tankful".

That might have been the problem.  It should be 300 miles of normal usage (going to the shops, stuck in traffic etc) rather than a single 300 mile trip.  Usage seems to higher during the cold start phase rather than when at temperature. from what I've read - most others *unless it uses a stupid amount* have magically passed when doing the mileage test in one long drive, and it still uses the same "top it up every tankful".

 

I have tried to tell them that on numerous occasions...seems odd that they get us to drive the car for the test, would make it more reliable if they did the testing surely?

They are just making it up as they go along.

 

There is an Official Skoda Technical Notification.

 

This Measuring of Oil & Multiplying is just stupid,

and getting all the oil out a Sump & Filter is not possible each and every time and measuring or weighing, not how they do it.

then taking a drop of the likes of 78 Grams of OIl and multiplication by 3.3 times and expecting some accuracy.

 

Some doing 300km, or near enough, some 300 miles,

 the old test being 100 km, but at least it told the correct weight of oil.  856 Grams for a litre @ 15*oC

 

If VW/Skoda VAG want to use a figure as a Maximum Acceptable usage of 0.5 litres per 1000 km (621 miles) then 

that should be the minimum miles that an engine should be getting measured over.

 

'If' You know for certain that you know how to check the oil level,

& you know if its had more than 1 litre in over 1200 miles of use, so you just demand that VW/Skoda just get on and 

check out their Manufacturing Faults.

They know they build some bad engines.  

 

Dealers will play at 3 Monkeys, & say no evil, never heard or seen the likes,

they like to say, 'Do not believe what you read on Forums.'

 

I think more of them as being like 'Tommy', Deaf, Dumb & Blind  kids.

 

Good luck all.

Just got off the phone with the dealership.

Apparently the type of driving should have no affect on the usage of oil!

They are happy to do another oil consumption test but if it fails I will also have to pay for that one as well...

They just do the test how Skoda tell them to do the test etc. etc.

Seeing as though this is my second brand new Skoda that I have brought from this dealership you would have thought they would handle it a bit more forgiving...

I would suggest doing the full 621 miles or thereabouts and if it takes a month, it takes a month.  No arguments then..

 

I'd like to know how they say the test was done correctly if they can't supply you with the test procedure?  I think there's a photo of the correct test somewhere and it says to drive normally (and it is important that you do - even high oil users have reported little or no usage on track days yet when it gets back to daily use it uses it again), then the dealer was wrong IF they suggested you go for a single long drive somewhere..

 

Just my 2p, though.  George?

I think you are totally correct.

 

JVickery92,

ask the Dealership for a Copy of the Set Procedure that Skoda gave them,  

& a Copy of the Figures that you have paid for already.

You paid for the test, not Skoda UK under warranty, so the results belong to you.  No Data Protection or the likes applies.

 

I would start an Action Against 'Skoda UK' if they do not want to deal seriously with the problem you have with the car.

 

Give them the Opportunity Today to Deal with it.

Call them and Email and ask for a response from them in Writing.

Tell them of the Dealerships Oil Consumption Test and what has happened since.

 

Ask Skoda UK to get the Report from the Skoda Dealer & give you a copy Of the Test Results.

 

george

I would suggest doing the full 621 miles or thereabouts and if it takes a month, it takes a month. No arguments then..

I'd like to know how they say the test was done correctly if they can't supply you with the test procedure? I think there's a photo of the correct test somewhere and it says to drive normally (and it is important that you do - even high oil users have reported little or no usage on track days yet when it gets back to daily use it uses it again), then the dealer was wrong IF they suggested you go for a single long drive somewhere..

Just my 2p, though. George?

There lies the answer - treat everyday like a track-day and you won't go wrong! ;-)

I've really noticed these cars drive better after a regular spanking. When I get back in it after SWMBO has had it for a few weeks it feels really sluggish until I blow out the cobwebs!

Thats how to save from issues in the first place and helps sort out some cars,

but once the engine has suffered bore wash, ring wear (oo er missus), and the other things that 

cause a certain & confirmed High Oil User,

the 'Thrash it always after warmed up' and before parking really can not help some engines.

If you are going to own it after the Warranty Expires you really want it all fixed while in Warranty.

 

george

Be lucky get the test results if they are like my dealer, asked for mine 3 week ago along with my service report and just get told it in the post.

Been on phone again today and told them the got till Monday or I will drag head office into it.

So good luck jvickery92 getting results if your dealer a @r5e like mine.

Skoda uk have been in contact with my dealer and say that they will pay for my consumption test but if I wish to take another one and it fails then they will not pay it again. Does this sound fair??

Not ideal, but fair.  If you are confident (or reasonably so) that it is likely to fail UNDER NORMAL USAGE, then you having nothing to lose?

 

If I was a conspiracy theorist, then SUK have paid for it so they don't have to give you the results in case they aren't right..