Im pretty sure today i was giving it a little changed up from 4th to 5th with paddles in sport mode i think i pressed the accel a little harder and it dropped back to forth. Its never done that before......anyone else experiecend that?

Was the stick to the side in D + / - ?? Only that puts it in full "manual" mode IMO

Kickdown works in manual mate, I hate it as it always seems to drop in to the gear below the one that you what.

When you changed using paddles you would have put it in to manual for about 10-15 sec then gone into whatever mode the gearbox was in I.e D or S

Edited 27 January, 201412 yr by leevrs180

The stick was in S mate and id changed upto 5th at when it got 5.5krpm in 4th and then i must of put my foot down further and after about a couple of secs it dropped back to 4th to about 6.5krpm so i changed up again.

I never use S, just put the stick to the left and use the paddles, it won't up shift by it's self in that mode I find. But it will downshift on its own accord no matter what you do! Just my opinion :-)

S is still auto though isnt it? If you press the paddles it just over rides it for a short time?

Isnt manual when you move the stick to the left -/+.

Im sure thats what a golf sportline of my dads is like.

I suppose its just one of them things. I put it in proper manual next time. Thanks guys.

You must have hit the kickdown switch.

 

If you press the accelerator with the engine off you will feel that once it's to the floor there is a further little click and this is the kickdown switch.

 

Doesn't matter what mode you are in (even manual) if you hit this switch it will go down to the lowest possible gear and go for it!

 

The trick is to floor it but not push hard so as to trigger the switch.

 

Phil

Edited 27 January, 201412 yr by Phil-E

Sometimes it is nice to hit it, it's like the millennium falcon going into hyperspace. Everything just blurs towards you....... Well almost.

Lol ha ha its annoying to be honest most of the time but it does put a smile on your occasionally:-)

Hmm. I never redline anything though. I never change in my htp any higher than 5k (and that isnt very often) which redlines at 6k.

I dont think id like the kickdown knockin it up to the redline. Does everybody redline on a regular basis then?

Well yes actually,

but not on the UK public highway obviously, before the redline in 4th is 100mph

Kickdown will rev to the redline, and change gear. Redline is not bad for the engine, used to drive right up to the limiter all the time in my old MK1 Octavia vRS. Still do, even today in my A8 V8, in S mode it revs to the redline before changing.

I was under the impression its bad for the engine?

Even when im really shifting on the bike, ill not go about 9k and that redlines at 10,500. All be it im doing 100 in third, (not a pedigree inline 4 sports bike) but there doesnt seem to be any real benefit for redlining?

Oh. Unless its just when you hold it there that its bad?

Yes best to change up to 5th.

 

The vRS is 6 gears in 'S', The box holds the gears and revs to the red line,  but 7  gears in 'D',  

but some boxes do shift to 7th in 'S' at around 125 mph.

 

If you put the gearbox in Manual 1, and boot it off the line it will automatically change 2nd, 3rd,up to 4th, 

but you manually need to change into 5th.

If you time it against doing the same in 'S' or 'D' you might find its a ticky quicker.

Ooh i didnt know that. I guess 7th is more of an overdrive to drop the revs then?

Cheers

It just stops it revving stupidly and the car goes fine in 'D',

I use 'S' for dropping gears, maybe to decelerate, or to drop the gears, then straight back to 'D' to get a move on.

(doing all upshifts in 'D'. because i do not use the paddles.)

Maybe it is just back to 'S'. then kick down again, instead of a Double Kick down.

 

7th, dropping to 5th going back with the stick to 'S', then kick down to 4th, and be on both chargers.

You must have hit the kickdown switch.

 

If you press the accelerator with the engine off you will feel that once it's to the floor there is a further little click and this is the kickdown switch.

 

I was under the impression that the spring loaded button did nothing other than to stop you burying your foot into the carpet. More of a placebo effect. By the time you get to the point of the button you're already at 100% throttle. The car will 'kick down' even if you go to 80% throttle in a high gear at low revs.

 

Found these two statements in the manual.

 

"Fully depressing the accelerator pedal allows the kickdown function to be activated in the desired driving program. This function has precedence over the driving programme and serves for maximum acceleration of the vehicle when exploiting the maximum power potential of the engine without taking into account the current selector lever position"

 

"It is possible to switch or shift down into a dynamic shift programme by depressing the accelerator rapidly. The gearbox shifts down into a lower gear matching the speed of the car and this allows you to accelerate rapidly (e.g. when overtaking) without having to depress the accelerator pedal fully into the kickdown range."

 

 

Doesn't specifically mention the 'button' in the manual as far as i can see. I would have thought it would just be based on % throttle angle then taking into account road speed, selected gear and available revs.

But if somone knows the awnser then please enlighten me. I might be missing out

I was under the impression that the spring loaded button did nothing other than to stop you burying your foot into the carpet. More of a placebo effect. By the time you get to the point of the button you're already at 100% throttle. The car will 'kick down' even if you go to 80% throttle in a high gear at low revs.

 

Found these two statements in the manual.

 

"Fully depressing the accelerator pedal allows the kickdown function to be activated in the desired driving program. This function has precedence over the driving programme and serves for maximum acceleration of the vehicle when exploiting the maximum power potential of the engine without taking into account the current selector lever position"

 

"It is possible to switch or shift down into a dynamic shift programme by depressing the accelerator rapidly. The gearbox shifts down into a lower gear matching the speed of the car and this allows you to accelerate rapidly (e.g. when overtaking) without having to depress the accelerator pedal fully into the kickdown range."

 

 

Doesn't specifically mention the 'button' in the manual as far as i can see. I would have thought it would just be based on % throttle angle then taking into account road speed, selected gear and available revs.

But if somone knows the awnser then please enlighten me. I might be missing out

There is 100% a kick down switch. The car of course will change down with hard acceleration in D or S but full throttle in locked manual mode will not result in a kick down unless the switch is activated. I think the car is giving 100% throttle at only 75% pedal travel anyhow.

Give it a try in manual mode (stick to the left). It will hold the current gear unless you click he little switch :-)

I am a firm believer in reading and digesting 'Owners Manuals,  

 

but then you have the car,  

so go out and try it, drive the car,  then you see where the Manual is 'Lost in Translation'.  

 

You can feel clearly your self where the kickdown switch is, & where shifts happen under load.

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There are also some situations where you floor the throttle but not hitting the switch.

 

The car decides not to kick down but carries on in the current gear. If you then hit the switch it will change down if the current road speed and gear etc allow and hit the red-line.

 

And as above even in manual if you hit the switch it will kick-down but not if you just floor it without hitting the switch.

 

Phil

INFO: for CTHE ovners vs CAVE:

 

I have mentioned before the different throttle mapping between these 2...... my old CAVE would kickdown even if you didn't operate the kickdown switch (if you were aggressive enough with the throttle, but still didn't operate the switch..)

 

the CTHE is mapped differently... it WILL NOT kickdown on normal throttle pedal travel in manual mode UNLESS you hit the kickdown switch, i really like this, makes it MUCH better to drive using the paddles

INFO: for CTHE ovners vs CAVE:

 

I have mentioned before the different throttle mapping between these 2...... my old CAVE would kickdown even if you didn't operate the kickdown switch (if you were aggressive enough with the throttle, but still didn't operate the switch..)

 

the CTHE is mapped differently... it WILL NOT kickdown on normal throttle pedal travel in manual mode UNLESS you hit the kickdown switch, i really like this, makes it MUCH better to drive using the paddles

 

Yeah that would annoy the hell out of me it kicking down even not hitting the switch.

 

I drove to Bridlington yesterday and there's a section of sweeping down hill road as you come out of a 40.

 

Manual mode 4th gear... magic!

 

If it kicked down to 3rd it would ruin it! lol

 

Phil

Yeah that would annoy the hell out of me it kicking down even not hitting the switch.

 

I drove to Bridlington yesterday and there's a section of sweeping down hill road as you come out of a 40.

 

Manual mode 4th gear... magic!

 

If it kicked down to 3rd it would ruin it! lol

 

Phil

absolutley, it was a pet peeve of mine in my first vRS, I even started a thread on here about whether a map was out yet for the DSG box to write it out, I hated it! I saw some RR operaters struggling to get maps too due to unwanted kickdown, no matyter how hard they tried to avoid the switch!

 

I REALLY like the way my new one wont kickdown unless you actually press the switch at the bottom, much better! makes for a FAR better drive in manual

 

(I take it your DSG 6 operates the same then! lol...)