as the above want to get a quickrack does anyone have the right part numbers i believe its off an r32 from what ive read but have yu got the part/model numbers which i need also which audi tt hubs and wishbones can i use as well. i am going to buy some porsche brakes for this as well all round and some 8.5 front 9.5 alloys with tyres.

 

so far its had full service

sks cam belt and water pump

g6/saches clutch

forge dump valve 

forge baffled sump

h&r springs 

remap

induction kit with custom airfilter box 

 

next up is full pipe work in engine bay 

downpipe and decat exhaust 

front mount intercooler 

airlift suspension 

custom respray, windows retinted as mine arent great and full interior retrim 

 

engine mods coming after 

 

Use the search on here buddy you will get all you need.....

 

But as i am kind here is my full list on the whole front end conversion i did that include the parts you need under steering parts. 

 

These are all the P/N I used(although not all these part are needed but I went full on replacing any bolt I removed)

 

Also note any P/N with a (*) at the end is the latest level so replace the last number before bracket with number in bracket

 

 

Suspension

 

1ML 412 331  x 2            LCR Suspension Top Mounts
1J0 412 249    x2            Strut Bearing

N 102 07803(4) x 2         Suspension / Hub    Bolt

N 10106402  x 2             Suspension / Hub    Nut        

       

Subframe

 

N 907 528 02  X 2          Rear Bolt
N 907 349 02  X 2           Front Bolt

8N0199282C Upper mounting bush x 2 (LCR)

8N0199282D Lower mounting bush x 2 (LCR)

1J0411305E                    R32 FARB
1J0411336D                   FARB Bush Mounting bracket x 2(your may be ok but i replaced for new anyway)
N10101603                     FARB Bush Mounting bracket bolt x 2 (as above)

SPF2593-23K                 SUPERPRO FARB poly bush 23mm 

 

 

Dogbone

 

N 102 683 02(4)   X 2   Dogbone to Subframe  Bolt 
N 905 970 01        X1    Front Bolt
N 102 466 03        X1    Rear Bolt

 

Wheel Bearing Housing / Hubs

 

8N0407256B        X1    Right Hub (LCR/TT/S3/R32)

8N0407255E        X1    Left Hub (LCR/TT/S3/R32)

N 905 87602        X2    Wheel Hub Nut

 

 

Note: try to get Hubs from a 2 wheel drive so the Hub Flanges are same as VRS(else reuse your VRS ones)

This is because although all hubs are the same for those above the 4x4 use different flanges to accommodate the 4x4 drive shafts 

 

Wishbones

 

8N0407165       X1      Left Cast Wishbone (LCR/TT/S3/R32)

8N0407166       X1      Right Cast Wishbone (LCR/TT/S3/R32)
N 103 32001(2) X6       Ball joint nuts
N 908 08801     X2       Ball Joint to Hub nut
N 904 840 03(4) X2      Wishbone Bolt (Front)
N 102 622 01(2) X2       Wishbone Bolt (Rear)
N 015 0814(6)    X2       Wishbone Nut (Rear)
KIT5240CADJK  x1      SUPERPRO Front control arm set 
Consists of:
SPF3394K                     Front control arm front bushes
SPF3397K                     Front control arm rear Bushes (castor increase)

 

Steering Parts

 

8N2422061H                  Steering Rack (quick Rack) 2.6 turns approx (LCR/TT/S3/R32) sometimes have 1J2 422 105 on them

N 100 155 06 (7)   X 4   Steering rack Bolts

N 013 849 4          X2    Sterring rack pipe seal washer

N 013 848 7          X2    Steering Rack pipe seal wahser
Steering rack boot kit x 1
PFF85-416          x 1 Powerflex Steering Rack mount(optional but good choice)

or

PF3366K             x 1 SuperPro Steering Rack mount(optional but this was my choice)

N0407365C        x 2    Ball Joint(Hub to wishbone) 

8N0422803D         x1     Track rod (steering) Left
8N0422804D         x1     Track rod (steering) Right
8N0422811A         x1     Tie Rod End Left 
8N0422812A         x1     Tie Rod End Right

 

Also i did a DIY guide somewhere but dam if i can find it

 

However this link is dam near mine and even used some on my Part list which should make you feel more confident.

It is pretty close to how I did mine

 

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/199244/1291722.aspx

 

Few pics of mine and useful  link

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/240661-vrs-chassis-mods-done-good-results/?hl=%20audi%20%20tt%20%20wishbones

 

One of the main reasons do this conversion and also fit the TT/LCR/S3 Hubs is they have longer brackets to ball joint/wishbones which give the cast wishbone a much better horizontal level even on lowered cars

 

My Cast Wishbones with castor adjuster bushes



fitted wishbones



You can see the near horizontal wishbone (and my car is very low)







You can also see the much longer distance the lower ball joint is located on the bottom of the TT hub( the TT HUB is a must as well to get best out of the conversion)

 

hope this helps folks.... 

Wow! There's so much involved in this conversion!

Credit to you boys for doing it, thankfully I have a 225 tt so have the bits already, kind of interested in what makes the tt racks 'quick racks'?

Cheers hope you don't mind

Wow! There's so much involved in this conversion!

Credit to you boys for doing it, thankfully I have a 225 tt so have the bits already, kind of interested in what makes the tt racks 'quick racks'?

Cheers hope you don't mind

 

It depends of how much of  a conversion you are doing. Just the Steering Rack is easy.

 

But to me you would be missing the whole benefit of what the steering rack and all the other bits bring together that the TT/LCR/S3 and R32 already have which is the Hubs, Wishbones, thicker FARB  and better subframe bushes.

 

The TT225/S3/LCR/R32 all use the "quick rack" basically a 2.7 turns lock to lock, whereas the VRS the other VAG makes not listed above use a 3.5 turns lock to lock.

Ah right, cheers for that!

Can I make a suggestion that may be useful to you guys?

As you probably know the TT was recalled early days to have tweaks to stop them spinning down autobahns.

One of the changes was the wishbone front bush, changed from a 30mm bush to a 45mm. Which lost loads of steering feel and added some slop!

There's an American company who make Defcons which is an aluminium insert you press into the wishbone and have the 30mm bush fitted to.

There's a guy on the TT forum who makes them in the uk called Cookbots...

Superpro castor adjuster bushes

Defcons

The superpro bushes basically come with a similar centre insert to the defcon's already installed

The supropro are a harder shore rating too - similar overall stiffness to the older smaller bush size

If you compare the two pics though, you'll see the supropro's have offset centres to reposition the front of the wishbone and remove some the extra castor VAG put into the TT, thus greatly reducing understeer

To achieve the same result using the defcon's you'd also need to buy a set of adjustable topmounts

Edited 27 March, 201412 yr by snow_muncher

No the defcons are the front bush not the main rear one. The bush inside is the 30mm superpro one not the 45mm fitted in the above.

It does make a difference.

sorry, being a dumbass there

Any chance you've got a superpro bush number for that

Can only find SPF3394K which is the 45mm one

Powerflex PFF85-201 fits that size

No the defcons are the front bush not the main rear one. The bush inside is the 30mm superpro one not the 45mm fitted in the above.

It does make a difference.

 

yeap I was going to say that....

 

The defcons are really just a metal sleeve. to insert into a post 2000 cast wishbone to allow a smaller bush to be installed.

With defcons, you return your TT tor similar car chassis to the handling characteristics that Audi later determined were "unsafe" in the hands of ordinary blokes.

Original Audi TT's (cira 2000) had a smaller bush in the wishbone which caused drivers who were not very well equipped to loose the back end on the car.

So post 2000 cars had a wishbone design change with a lager front hole to accept a larger bush that transformed the car to dial out some under steer. 

 

Trying to find a original pre 2001 wishbone is like rocking horse poo, so companies like defcon have produced this sleeve to make your post 2000 one become a pre 2000 one.

 

as mentioned it seem that other companies now process the sleeve with a bush installed.

 

Something I will be looking at purchasing me thinks.....  

 

http://www.mcpii.com/suspension.html

 

http://www.thettshop.com/search.asp?product=600527&i=show&site=main

sorry, being a dumbass there

Any chance you've got a superpro bush number for that

Can only find SPF3394K which is the 45mm one

Powerflex PFF85-201 fits that size

 

There is not a superpro bush on its own that you can use. You will have to get the defcon sleeve and correct smaller front bush too. They don't  come together as far as I can tell.

JoshH post #5 shows that he knows a uk company that produce the pair together which is what i will follow up on .

 

Anyone  a group buy???

well apparently due to the esp on my car ill only be changing the wishbones hubs etc without the rack but cheers buddy that guide is actually pretty sweet 

Anyone a group buy???

+1

well apparently due to the esp on my car ill only be changing the wishbones hubs etc without the rack but cheers buddy that guide is actually pretty sweet

imo its the wishbones which make the major difference, the tighter rack is a tweak in comparison

Edited 27 March, 201412 yr by snow_muncher

If you guys would like a contact I will put you in touch, uk supplier who will supply sleeve with a superpro poly bush fitted!

+1

imo its the wishbones which make the major difference, the tighter rack is a tweak in comparison

+1

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£102 for two bits of tube! I think I might just make a few myself next time I'm at my friendly local machine shop playing(breaking) the big tools :(

£85 delivered for a pair with superpro bushes pressed in guys.

http://www.ttforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=331882 try and see if you can view that link.

I will get his contact details

Pm me a contact josh please thanks

I emailed the guy today Josh, thanks for contacts

 

Asked about a deal and a group buy and qty's

 

will come back with info laters.. 

Hi Folks Update:

 

Ref the defcon alternative version of sleeves and bushes

 

I contacted Paul at Cookbot automotive solutions ref a price and group by reductions, great guy and helpful.

 

Thanks Josh for Contacts.

 

Website here:

 

http://www.cbauto-solutions.co.uk/

 

This is Paul's response.

 

"I’ve done bulk buy before for these and have sold many pairs all around the world.   They are priced at £85 posted to forum members including pre fitted super pro bush for the individual or can do them at £80 per pair for 5 or £75 for 10 including postage and the pre fitted super pro bush to individuals.  

I can also provide them with out bush, but be aware I have to use a special tool I made to fit these, so it’s unlikely guys would be able to fit the super pro bush on their own.  price for these is £60 posted on an individual price, £55 for 5 or can do them at £50 for 10 posted to the individual.

I also have the SPF 3395k and SPF 3397k rear wishbone bushes in stock if members require other bushes too.  As I’ll also potentially be putting in a big order with Superpro, I can get any other bush people require and pass the savings on. Let me know what you want to do or if you have any further questions. "

 

So I am up for a set and can set up a group buy in the appropriate section of forum. so to not burn up time on the OP thread here ref his original subject(sorry for the deviation dude).

 

Would be good to test the water on interest so i can work out if this group buy will be a go..?

 

Watch  out later for the new group buy thread....  

Glad you have something sorted out

Just stared this group buy interest folks

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/310371-group-buy-for-front-wishbone-defcon-alternative-sleeves-bushes/

Just stared this group buy interest folks

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/310371-group-buy-for-front-wishbone-defcon-alternative-sleeves-bushes/

Hi Bowders1,

Have you fitted the conversion 30mm bushes yet? If so what's your feedback on them?

I'm picking up a LCR subframe/rack/hub set up this weekend and will be fitting it in a couple of months when I get more time (e just had out 2nd child 5 days ago!). I need to get bushes for the arms and stumbled across this thread you set up.

The car isn't going to be tracked, it's my daily commute/family car but currently ticking through the upgrades to make it a nice car and more fun when the chance arises. I'd considered just standard bushes, then I saw on your thread about the castor adjust bushes, do they make a huge difference over standard? I will be fitting some spax coilovers but not going mega low as it still needs to be a family car too.

I also came across the below bushes on eBay by a company called PSB (problem solving bushes). I've never heard of them but they are cheap, unsure if that also means the quality of the but isn't up to scratch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-AUDI-TT-MK1-98-06-A3-S3-96-03-Front-Wishbone-Rear-Poly-Bushings-147-/171324356151?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27e3ba3637

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A3-S3-TT-MK1-front-wishbone-front-bush-x2-45mm-forged-arm-732-/181393799226?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3ATT&hash=item2a3be9b83a

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Audi-A3-TT-MK1-Front-wishbone-rear-Performance-bush-147P-/181393799227?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3ATT&hash=item2a3be9b83b

If you wouldn't mind, what's your opinion on fitting the following bushes in the LCR cast arms:

Standard OE quality

PSB poly bush set

Super pro kit Poly bush (non castor)

Superpro kit including castor adjust

Superpro castor with 30mm conversion bush

Thanks in advance for and advice,

Cal

Hi Bowders1,

Have you fitted the conversion 30mm bushes yet? If so what's your feedback on them?

I'm picking up a LCR subframe/rack/hub set up this weekend and will be fitting it in a couple of months when I get more time (e just had out 2nd child 5 days ago!). I need to get bushes for the arms and stumbled across this thread you set up.

The car isn't going to be tracked, it's my daily commute/family car but currently ticking through the upgrades to make it a nice car and more fun when the chance arises. I'd considered just standard bushes, then I saw on your thread about the castor adjust bushes, do they make a huge difference over standard? I will be fitting some spax coilovers but not going mega low as it still needs to be a family car too.

I also came across the below bushes on eBay by a company called PSB (problem solving bushes). I've never heard of them but they are cheap, unsure if that also means the quality of the but isn't up to scratch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-AUDI-TT-MK1-98-06-A3-S3-96-03-Front-Wishbone-Rear-Poly-Bushings-147-/171324356151?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27e3ba3637

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A3-S3-TT-MK1-front-wishbone-front-bush-x2-45mm-forged-arm-732-/181393799226?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3ATT&hash=item2a3be9b83a

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Audi-A3-TT-MK1-Front-wishbone-rear-Performance-bush-147P-/181393799227?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3ATT&hash=item2a3be9b83b

If you wouldn't mind, what's your opinion on fitting the following bushes in the LCR cast arms:

Standard OE quality

PSB poly bush set

Super pro kit Poly bush (non castor)

Superpro kit including castor adjust

Superpro castor with 30mm conversion bush

Thanks in advance for and advice,

Cal

Hi buddy will respond later with more detail as PC is shut down.

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Thanks Mate