FABIA VRS MK2 MPG

[PFE1]

Hi all,

after a year of ownership and over 12,000 miles here is the official MPG:

 

DATE             MILEAGE                 LITRES                         £                   

05.12.13                 7                               @ full tank (@37 ltr) @ £50  no invoice     
19.12.13                 334                             36.40                         £48:43   Tesco Momentum
27.12.13                 616                             37.53                         £51:00    “                 “
02.01.14                 941                             37.90                         £50:00    “                 “
12.01.14                 1138                           23.70                         £31:50    “                 “
19.01.14                 1466                           15.16                         £20:00    “                 “
28.01.14                 1604                           40.94                         £54:00    “                 “
08.02.14                 1935                           43.64                         £58:00    “                 “
19.02.14                 2308                           21.22                         £28:00    “                 “
27.02.14                 2501                           40.94                         £54:00    “                 “             
09.03.14                 2833                           38.65                         £51:00    “                 “
20.03.14                 3171                           7.15                           £09:90    “                 “
20.03.14                 3185                           30.10                         £40:01    “                 “
28.03.14                 3495                           7.25                           £10:00    “                 “
28.03.14                 3528                           36.59                         £49:00    “                 “        
05.04.14                 3862                           39.72                         £52:00    “                 “
19.04.14                 4202                           22.75                         £30:01    “                 “
24.04.14                 4385                           19.27                         £26:00        Jet super
27.04.14                 4550                           41.32                         £45:50    Tesco Momentum
06.05.14                 4920                           39.72                         £52:00     “                “
16.05.14                 5280                           40.63                         £54:00     “                “
28.05.14                 5616                           37.62                         £50:00     “                “
09.06.14                 5981                           39.88                         £53:00     “                “
14.06.14                 6312                           37.27                         £49:90     “                “
24.06.14                 6539                            N/A                             1st oil top up (150ml)
27.06.14                 6620                           41.08                         £55:00     “                “
13.07.14                 7027                           40.77                         £55:00     “                “       
26.07.14                 7345                           44.48                         £60:00     “                “
07.08.14                 7684                           41.31                         £54:90     “                “
19.08.14                 8055                           21.99                         £29:00     “                “
24.08.14                 8250                           18.89                         £24:92     “                “
28.08.14                 8401                           40.94                         £54:00     “                “             
12.09.14                 8760                           39.42                         £52:00     “                “
19.09.14                 9022                           24.83                         £33:00     “                “
25.09.14                 9238                           34.83                         £45:95     “                “        
06.10.14                 9577                           38.20                         £50:00     “                “
                                                                                                10.000 mile service
15.10.14                 9918                           40.72                         £52:90     “                “
23.10.14                 10188                         26.91                         £34:96     “                “
28.10,14                 10517                         38.79                         £50:00     “                “
05.11.14                 10857                         41.44                         £53:00     “                “
14.11.14                 11200                         42.21                         £54:00     “                “
19.11.14                 warranty work done on steering rack
28.11.14                 11538                         44.39                         £55:00     “                “
09.12.14                 11901                         39.39                         £48:00     “                “
15.12.14                 12231                         38.69                         £46:00     “                “
23.12.14                 12589
                               12589                        1471.63                    £1924,88

 

38.89 miles per gallon

7.27 litres per 100km

13.76 kilometers per litre

Cost  £1924.88

 

Now I can stop collecting the receipts and writing down the mileage!!

 

Merry Xmas,
               
 

[fabiamk2SE]

Hi all,

after a year of ownership and over 12,000 miles here is the official MPG:

DATE MILEAGE LITRES £

05.12.13 7 @ full tank (@37 ltr) @ £50 no invoice

19.12.13 334 36.40 £48:43 Tesco Momentum

27.12.13 616 37.53 £51:00 “ “

02.01.14 941 37.90 £50:00 “ “

12.01.14 1138 23.70 £31:50 “ “

19.01.14 1466 15.16 £20:00 “ “

28.01.14 1604 40.94 £54:00 “ “

08.02.14 1935 43.64 £58:00 “ “

19.02.14 2308 21.22 £28:00 “ “

27.02.14 2501 40.94 £54:00 “ “

09.03.14 2833 38.65 £51:00 “ “

20.03.14 3171 7.15 £09:90 “ “

20.03.14 3185 30.10 £40:01 “ “

28.03.14 3495 7.25 £10:00 “ “

28.03.14 3528 36.59 £49:00 “ “

05.04.14 3862 39.72 £52:00 “ “

19.04.14 4202 22.75 £30:01 “ “

24.04.14 4385 19.27 £26:00 Jet super

27.04.14 4550 41.32 £45:50 Tesco Momentum

06.05.14 4920 39.72 £52:00 “ “

16.05.14 5280 40.63 £54:00 “ “

28.05.14 5616 37.62 £50:00 “ “

09.06.14 5981 39.88 £53:00 “ “

14.06.14 6312 37.27 £49:90 “ “

24.06.14 6539 N/A 1st oil top up (150ml)

27.06.14 6620 41.08 £55:00 “ “

13.07.14 7027 40.77 £55:00 “ “

26.07.14 7345 44.48 £60:00 “ “

07.08.14 7684 41.31 £54:90 “ “

19.08.14 8055 21.99 £29:00 “ “

24.08.14 8250 18.89 £24:92 “ “

28.08.14 8401 40.94 £54:00 “ “

12.09.14 8760 39.42 £52:00 “ “

19.09.14 9022 24.83 £33:00 “ “

25.09.14 9238 34.83 £45:95 “ “

06.10.14 9577 38.20 £50:00 “ “

10.000 mile service

15.10.14 9918 40.72 £52:90 “ “

23.10.14 10188 26.91 £34:96 “ “

28.10,14 10517 38.79 £50:00 “ “

05.11.14 10857 41.44 £53:00 “ “

14.11.14 11200 42.21 £54:00 “ “

19.11.14 warranty work done on steering rack

28.11.14 11538 44.39 £55:00 “ “

09.12.14 11901 39.39 £48:00 “ “

15.12.14 12231 38.69 £46:00 “ “

23.12.14 12589

12589 1471.63 £1924,88

38.89 miles per gallon

7.27 litres per 100km

13.76 kilometers per litre

Cost £1924.88

Now I can stop collecting the receipts and writing down the mileage!!

Merry Xmas,

My god. Youve been having fun on Christmas Day haha.

What engines this mate? a vrs?

[PFE1]

My god. Youve been having fun on Christmas Day haha.

What engines this mate? a vrs?

Adding it all up in between the ale was the hard part!- 1.4 CTHE VRS

[wrightcnc2009]

Lol, I started to do the same with mine when I picked it up in January but couldn't cope with all the receipts after two weeks so gave up!! All I know is, I've done well if I get more than 200 miles out of a full tank. It's just coming up to 8k now.

[mdking]

200miles from a tank?! Lots of short trips? Or lots of brisk driving

[wrightcnc2009]

200miles from a tank?! Lots of short trips? Or lots of brisk driving

Bit of both, also needs a set of tyres really as I've been rotating them to keep wear even and replace all with a different size and brand but on a plus note it's only just had second top up of oil yesterday, 500ml in 8k kinda tells me they like the fast lane Edited 27 December, 2014 by wrightcnc2009

[SeaGoat]

Thank God!

An honest post with evidence.

Like you, I retain receipts and record mileage.

Over a distance of about 8,500 miles I have avearged 39.3 MPG, usually 97 RON.

I allow for a safe distance 350 miles per full tank

I am amazed at people who claim to get up to 50 MPG.

I will carry on calculating MPG, if it drops dramatically it may warn of a problem.

[Ootohere]

People who claim to get 50 mpg or are actually getting 50 mpg can have totally different cars or locations from you.

 

But different drivers using the same car can get very different Economy over periods of times,

dependent on their use and driving styles.

 

CAVE or CTHE, and these are not all the same MAP from 2010-2012,

or 2013 & 2014.

 

But Tyres can make a difference as much as 3 mpg on some car, as can tyre pressures, & weight in the  car,

& fuel used.

 

The 1.4 TSI with a Minimum of 180 ps & DSG has Performance & Fuel efficence more affected by Weather, Weight carried, tyres etc

than any other Engines than i have ever come across.

 

8,000 miles plus covered, or the first oil change at 10,000 miles or so often changes the economy of the vRS for the better.

Edited 27 December, 2014 by goneoffSKi

[TomR88]

I do 60 miles a day and my average mpg is 44mpg. It is a combination of cross country roads and the A1. As it is cross country it is a steady drive.

Compared to my previous 1.2 corsa which averaged 38mpg. I get round 400 miles from a tank and fill up approx once a week

[lol-lol]

It is certainly an odd machine for the MPG it reports.

 

The aerodynamics of the Fabia VRS are pretty awful compared to many other cars of the day. 

 

Went down to Plymouth for a visit just before Xmas.  Bearing in mind that I can often get over 40 mpg on a normal run for me ie over 100 miles and criusing at the 70 mph mark, I hurried down to Plymouth crusing at around 80 mph and into the teeth of the prevailing south-westerly gale and the Holden Hill climb event at 100-ish (Kms/hr ofcourse ehmm) and only got 33 mpg.  Cruised back at a regualr 70 mph, slight tail wind and then back to the low-40s mpg.

 

Thank God for cheaper fuel and a fuel card. 

[Ootohere]

32 mpg is about my average now when i mostly only drive one for fun and,

rather different from the 42 mpg i used to get regularly with a vRS as a Daily driver.

 

I can still can do 52 mpg over a longer run when the rpm is kept around 2,400, just as long as it is not to rainy & windy.

Just cant be bothered anymore, they now kill my back and i want to get a shift on.

[vRSgone]

Excuse my ignorance, but this vRS mpg thingy? Like other users I was getting an average 38.6 mpg, then I fitted the Bluespark tuning box & I started to get 42.1 mpg together with the amazing performance increase. Now I've had a new catback exhaust system & the mpg has jumped to 44.4 mpg, plus a noticeable gain in performance. Now where has all this extra energy come from?  I'm not a complete idiot - I actually have a physics degree (albeit 45 years out of date), but I do tend to keep up with developments (Discovery of Higgs boson, quantum mechanics, zero energy & all that malarkey), So I know that the Law of Conservation Of Energy isn't being contravened, so this extra increase in energy & efficiency must be at the cost of something else. But what? Please explain.

 

Secondly all my MPG figures I've quoted are derived from the maxidot display, which I know other posters have poured scorn on regards its accuracy. So answer me this. The fuel is metered & delivered with precision accuracy by the ECU to the cylinders. Likewise the distance travelled is measured within prescribed accuracy by the vehicle odometer. The MPG figure is a derived function of these 2 quantities, so how can it be anything other than accurate? More accurate than guessing how much the tank contains or possibly forgetting to add in a fuel purchase here or there, I would have thought.

 

Or am I missing something?

[fabiamk2SE]

Maybe its designed to be a little optimistic so you think its better than it actually is?

Just a thought

[Ootohere]

What happens in simple terms with you getting it running more efficiently while maintaining the UK National speed limits is just using less fuel 

as the car can maintain speed more easily.

 

If you use 10 gallons and the miles covered are correctly observed then it is rather easy to find the average achieved out 

of 10 gallons. 45.46 litre, or 9 gallons 40.91 litres.

 

Not many bought a vRS with the intention of economy, so it is hardly important.

 

Nice to know you can get more speed type performance if you want, and still get better economy when you want. 

 

VW played on the careful side with Reliability vs Performance and economy,

& got it a bit wrong for 3 years,

so hence the CTHE & they got it a bit better.

Now that the Tuners have cracked remapping the CTHE we will see how it plays out.

[jrw]

It is certainly an odd machine for the MPG it reports.

The aerodynamics of the Fabia VRS are pretty awful compared to many other cars of the day.

Went down to Plymouth for a visit just before Xmas. Bearing in mind that I can often get over 40 mpg on a normal run for me ie over 100 miles and criusing at the 70 mph mark, I hurried down to Plymouth crusing at around 80 mph and into the teeth of the prevailing south-westerly gale and the Holden Hill climb event at 100-ish (Kms/hr ofcourse ehmm) and only got 33 mpg. Cruised back at a regualr 70 mph, slight tail wind and then back to the low-40s mpg.

Thank God for cheaper fuel and a fuel card.

That's strange coming from someone who got 50+ a tank and think you once mentioned 600miles from a tank. Shame you never backed it up with fuel receipts.

Now I see the truth slowly creeping out. Get 32mpg in other half's vrs.

I have a megane company car now with a fuel card and free fuel and I have to keep a spreadsheet of personal and business mileage as well as litres filled with diesel. So quite why you've never been able to prove your wild claims over the years is a mystery to me.

[Ootohere]

LOL.

Lots of mysteries in your life.

I am waiting for the part number from you for the Left hand drive rear axle you told us about.

[TeebsVRS]

OP, you do know things like Fuelly and FuelLogPro phone app exist, much easier to log it all! Mines on about 41 mpg average.

[vxh26]

Skoda quote an "average" figure of 45.6 MPG for the 1.4TSI 180PS DSG so that is what you should expect. They quote a figure of 54.3 MPG for extra-urban driving.

 

These are of course ultra reliable "Standard EU test figures"

 

The European Union is all set to make official car mpg tests more representative of real world driving. The move is an attempt to close current loopholes that allow manufacturers to record exaggerated figures by preparing cars to do well in the tests.  Research by the European Commission last year found that makers were able to doctor their figures by doing things such as taping up car doors, or carrying out tests on unrealistically smooth surfaces.

 

Anyone who claims to exceed these figures is almost certainly lying.

[Ootohere]

Are you saying that it is not possible to drive a Twincharger for 60 miles and only use 1 imperial gallon

while doing more than an average speed of say 50 mph?

& that anyone that says they can is a liar?

 

How do you achieve an Average, other than by Lows & Highs,

so the Highs can be higher to average out with the lows does it not?

 

'Ultra Reliable',   are you sure.?    What happened this year to Audi with the ASA?

'Done on a Rolling Road device inside a building and as a comparison'.

2.5 & 4.3 miles covered.

 

"the EU is all set to......"  

? So have they got off the blocks yet?  

Taped up cars make no difference to the cars on Rolling Roads without being in a wind tunnel, 

rather than cars outside on roads or test tracks.

 

& what temperatures are the cars stored at before the Cold Start test for the current EU test,?

Nothing like where many will cold start much of the year in the UK.

 

http://skoda.co.uk/fuel-consumption-statement

http://dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/new-car-fuel-consump.asp

http://dft.gov.uk/vca

 

....................

Now remember that when SEAT Introduced the CTHE engine & Engine Management in the Ibiza early 2013 they changed the Emissions,

reducing them & the VED & MPG figures & performance figures from those of the CAVE they had from 2009-2012,

but Skoda fitted that engine & engine management 3-4 months earlier in the Fabia and changed nothing.

So what is correct, the 2010-2012 or now and from 2012-2014?

Edited 28 December, 2014 by goneoffSKi

[lol-lol]

That's strange coming from someone who got 50+ a tank and think you once mentioned 600miles from a tank. Shame you never backed it up with fuel receipts.   Now I see the truth slowly creeping out. Get 32mpg in other half's vrs.  I have a megane company car now with a fuel card and free fuel and I have to keep a spreadsheet of personal and business mileage as well as litres filled with diesel. So quite why you've never been able to prove your wild claims over the years is a mystery to me.

 

Happy Xmas and New Year JRW !

 

I don't think it is that odd that the same car can get upper 50s mpg on some journeys and only low 30s on another just a factor of prevailing conditions and crusiing speed.  I was very pleased to see that the car could do over 600 miles on a vented tankful and it is annoying when the car can olny manage 350 miles when half of that is in to a very strong headwind.  Clearly the relatively un-earodynamic shape worked strongly against it on that journey.  

 

Apologies for my dis-organisation on not keeping a fuelly account or getting my employer to provide fuel receipts information and me only being able to provide the occasional insight info such as the Scottish trip and getting over 600 miles on a tankful.  If you don't believe me then that is your choice, I put my hand on my heart and say it happened if you don't think what I say is true then "c'est la vie, c'est la guerre ".

 

Sorry to hear about having to drive a Megane diesel, hope it is the 130 hp model at least but it is nice to have a fuel card and only pay 20% or 40% as Benefit in Kind it is a nice perk to have through some of my colleague take the P and go and get a Range Rover and I was tempted to get a 3.6 litre Superb or the like as fuel is now only about 45p a litre thru the fuel card but now might wait for the Mk 3 Superb with the 280 hp TSI or go for a Mk 3 Octy TSI VRS when I am due a change in 2015!   

 

Have a great 2015 !   

[vxh26]

Are you saying that it is not possible to drive a Twincharger for 60 miles and only use 1 imperial gallon

while doing more than an average speed of say 50 mph?

& that anyone that says they can is a liar?

<snip>

 

Pretty much, yes.

 

Anyone who claims to exceed the MPG figures claimed by a manufacturer is almost certainly lying - unless they happen to have removed all the unused seats and fixtures from their car, they tape up the doors and they live at the top of a 60 mile perfectly smooth and straight hill with frequent downdraughts

 

ps - Have a great 2015!

Edited 28 December, 2014 by vxh26

[Ootohere]

The figures 'Claimed' & 'Given' by the manufacturers are not done on the road, 

and might well be done on the Rolling Road using 95 ron unleaded fuel.

 

But i can assure you the Brochure figures and official figures for Fuel Use, Emissions, and performance, 

0-62 & Max Speed can all be bettered in the real world.

 

Have a good one yourself.

 

?

What are you driving yourself these days?

 

PS

Scotland now has lovely long stretches of Average Speed Cameras on the A77 & A9.

Good for covering long distances up hill and down dale in both directions and 

in all conditions, and seeing what you get for MPG at 50, or 60 & even 70 MPH extended periods.

Because you have no choice but to stay within those limits.

http://autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything-goes/mpg-marathon-results-are

 

Nobody will bother going i expect, since the 'Claimed' figures can not be bettered.

http://thempgmarathon.co.uk

Edited 28 December, 2014 by goneoffSKi

[lol-lol]

Pretty much, yes.   Anyone who claims to exceed the MPG figures claimed by a manufacturer is almost certainly lying - unless they happen to have removed all the unused seats and fixtures from their car, they tape up the doors and they live at the top of a 60 mile perfectly smooth and straight hill with frequent downdraughts

ps - Have a great 2015!

 

Cross my heart and hope to stub my toe. 

 

There are lots of techniques and circumstance which can collude to better the manufacturers fuel consumption figures.

 

Before going in to that it is worth pointing out that on my 600 miles on wheels of fire trip to Scotland and back that I did a very good vented fill before setting off so probably had about 11 gallons ie 50 litres of fuel in the tank esle I would not have made it on a single tank and in fact still had 15 miles showing left.  Also you can drive tens of miles with it showing zero out of interest.

 

The journey was a couple of month ago but I remember the ambient temperature was circa 15C and there was no particular head or tail winds to mention.  I coasted down the long hills in neutral, often getting to around 80 mph and then coasting for a half mile or mile and occassional, when there was a transit van or the like crusiing at a nice 65-70 latched on to that for a bit of drafting, not too close, about 30m seems to be a good distance for some slipstreaming but safe enough.  

 

You cannot do these thing on an EU legislated fuel test hence the circumstance to do better than manufacturer's published figures.  When driving becomes more automated ie the computer driving the car, I expect these cars driving nose to tail will be the norm and then manufacturers may have to revise their figures.

 

Happy hyper-miling.  Pay less tax to the Con-Dems.

[fabiamk2SE]

Getting 30's on some journeys and upper 50's on others is a big difference

My 1.2 htp seems to get between 45 and 50mpg on a trip. The quoted combined is 51mpg. Which whilst not impossible, i do have to drive in a way soo economically that it becomes super boring.

I have had 530 miles from a vented tank. But that was all. Full to nearly very empty on a trip to wales, around wales and back.

[dazz600]

Plenty of people can break the manafactures figures for mpg

Hyper-milers are pretty good at it without taking any seats out

A coupla times in the mk1 vrs on a long journey I could see 73mpg average over a 100mile journey

No mods just reading the road ahead

As said before this was on maxidot so could be out by 20% which brings it to where Skoda claim

Lying? No

Bored stiff while doing it? Oh yes!

Stopped looking at mpg anymore,life's too short