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Today while driving my fabia 111 110ps  the anti collision brakes made an emergency application, there were no vehicles anywhere in range.

On viewing footage from my dashcam there was what looked like a flattened can in the road exactly where the brakes were applied surely that is a bit too sensitive. Car goes in for its first service tomorrow @ 4000 miles. so will see what the Erm experts say. Anyone else had probs with this system.

 

I have an 110 DSG Estate SE. The only time the anti collision has operated seriously, that is the brakes operated in ABS-reminder mode, not emergency braking, was when I was leaving the dealer's service car park. There were sliding security gates with a rail on the ground for the gates to slide along. The anti collision detector saw the rail and the brake pedal vibrated like when the ABS kicks in, but the brakes were not applied harshly, if at all. Someone else posted about a similar situation when he was leaving a council rubbish dump. I thought at the time that the nose of the car might have seen the rail as an obstacle because there was a downwards slope at the exit which might have made the rail seem higher than it really was. The rail was low enough to allow cars to bump over without a problem, no more than about 5 cms high. The forward detection has operated many times in normal traffic without any emergency operation. It is sensitive cyclists and pedestrians judged by when I have seen the warning screen, but not any brake operation. I wonder if the radar reflection from an object like a squashed can could by chance of the geometry appear to be a much larger object than reality.

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Thanks for your response SoupDragon. This was on a straight level road, nothing in range and the brake was full application causing front wheels to lock up for a second or two. Very worrying, a tailgating Range Rover only just managed to stop. Car goes in for service today but not holding out much hope of any reassurance. Will post any information.   

Thanks for your response SoupDragon. This was on a straight level road, nothing in range and the brake was full application causing front wheels to lock up for a second or two. Very worrying, a tailgating Range Rover only just managed to stop. Car goes in for service today but not holding out much hope of any reassurance. Will post any information.   

 

That is my concern about auto brake systems, it's all well and good if your car is equipped with it, but what about the car behind that ploughs into you because they don't have it? Obviously their insurance will cough up, as running into the back of someone automatically assumes the rear car is responsible. If the system triggers as yours did, for no apparent reason, and causes a major pile up, then what?

I have heard this being mentioned else where, in the Octy section I believe where a car emergency braked when a plastic bag flew out in front of the car. I think the radar must see something, assume it is an obstacle and applies the emergency braking.

Ian

Mine done it the other day as I pulled up to the lights on a two lane road and it just slammed the brakes on. So I looked at my footage and a car on the inside lane was slightly over in to my lane. Had to go home and change my underpants.

That is my concern about auto brake systems, it's all well and good if your car is equipped with it, but what about the car behind that ploughs into you because they don't have it? Obviously their insurance will cough up, as running into the back of someone automatically assumes the rear car is responsible. If the system triggers as yours did, for no apparent reason, and causes a major pile up, then what?

 

Then it should still be the responsibility of the car behind!! The distance to the car in front of you should **always** be enough to enable you to react to unexpected events, such as the car in front suddenly brakeing (due to a deer on the road, or overcautios autobraking equipment).

Can it be turned off on the Car screens in the radio?

Can it be turned off on the Car screens in the radio?

the question there is if you do turn it of does it cause issue with your insurance, as your premium will like include the system in the risk calculation, and without the system you could be a higher risk

The question will be is the safety device unsafe.  A risk greater than the possible added safety it was supposed to offer.

So reports need to go to Skoda UK, then you can inform your Insurance Company that you are disabling the system, 

or having Skoda UK arrange for a Main Dealer to until they are confident the system is not flawed.

Then it should still be the responsibility of the car behind!! The distance to the car in front of you should **always** be enough to enable you to react to unexpected events, such as the car in front suddenly brakeing (due to a deer on the road, or overcautios autobraking equipment).

 

Very true, but what about the situations already mentioned? Plastic bags, cars slightly in the wrong lanes etc where it shouldn't have activated

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Well car back from service and they could find no faults with the system.  The guy did seem to take the issue seriously and claimed he had sought advice from VW who admitted the system is very sensitive but have not experienced FULL brake application. To be clear the brakes only came on for a couple of seconds at 23 MPH and car did not come to a stand and because my foot was still on the gas it picked up speed again it was still pretty scary though. This does make one point to all drivers  DON,T ******* TAILGATE hopefully a lesson learnt by the guy in the Range Rover who was behind me.   

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