Can anyone tell me please the correct 4 wheel alignment settings for a MKIII ( 66 plate ) Tsi,( print out would be good ) or where I can find the information I'm after

 

As you may or may not know my 230 is bust and Skoda Technical Department want a 4 wheel Alignment doing on it......

 

I'd like a copy to make sure they will do it correctly and just not to Skoda's Tollerances. ( which could be way out )

 

Thanks

 

AG

 

Edited 8 April, 20179 yr by Auric Goldfinger

Unless you have the ERwin manuals for your chassis number, Have a look in the sticky

 

"Mk3 Owners + Workshop Manual info"

 

THIS  post has links to some of them. You will find what you are looking for in section 44 in "Axles, steering" You have "sport chassis RS" it gives you the target and tolerance.

 

That manual also details the process they should go through.

^^  Thanks for that, relevant sections printed off ^^

 

 

AG

7 hours ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

Can anyone tell me please the correct 4 wheel alignment settings for a MKIII ( 66 plate ) Tsi,( print out would be good ) or where I can find the information I'm after

 

As you may or may not know my 230 is bust and Skoda Technical Department want a 4 wheel Alignment doing on it......

 

I'd like a copy to make sure they will do it correctly and just not to Skoda's Tollerances. ( which could be way out )

 

Thanks

 

AG

 

I don't understand what you mean by any of this?

 

skoda produce the info and display it on the original source - Elsa 

 

this is then used by the likes of hunter, beissbarth, Bosch etc and displayed to the public via the likes of Erwin, so the figures will all be the same anyway and all geometry set ups have some leeway. If it falls within that tolerance then how can it be way out? (Were talking about 1 degree here now).

 

If its for warranty purposes then it'll have to be carried out using approved and properly calibrated equipment too which will no doubt - use those same figures.

 

the workshop manual will be the most up to date source of info but to access it you'll need an Erwin or Elsa login. There's no guarantee that the info on that other thread hasn't already been superseded by the info on Elsa. 

 

 

Whats wrong with your car?

 

Sorry James, perhaps I've worded my post incorrectly 

 

My dealers Master Tech doesn't really know whats wrong so I believe Skoda Technical Dept have got involved ( Told by the dealer ) The car is in Harrogate and needs a 4 wheel alignment ordered by Skoda Technical. The car has to go to Preston for the alignment ( Skoda's nearest centre for me so the alignment to be done ), return to the dealers for any work to be carried out and then back to Preston for another alignment check. (Twice to preston and back 250 miles in total Plus petrol costs ) Evidently Alignments are not covered under warranty so they mentioned I might have to pay for it, So, 2 alignment checks plus fuel at my expense, not a happy bunny. If I'm paying I want it doing right and I'm not really happy about some one else driving my car to Preston and Back twice. My point is if Skoda are trying to find out the problem by the way of illumination and it turn out it's not the alignment then I'm paying for something thats not needed, twice.  I want it doing right.

 

Edited 9 April, 20179 yr by Auric Goldfinger

Skoda uk had the brilliant idea of only allowing one dealer per region to purchase the equipment required to align cars on the MQB platform with additional assist hardware thus allowing them to monopolise the process.

your car will be going to simpsons - as is where we were forced to send ours. 

 

Nevertheless their equipment is state of the art (circa £50,000 worth) and won't produce a shoddy, incorrect result, ours were always bang on.

 

Have they carried out the simple things like removing the brakes and checking for stones or road debris caught behind the disc? 

6 hours ago, James@Pentagon_Seat said:

Skoda uk had the brilliant idea of only allowing one dealer per region to purchase the equipment required to align cars on the MQB platform with additional assist hardware thus allowing them to monopolise the process.

your car will be going to simpsons - as is where we were forced to send ours. 

 

Nevertheless their equipment is state of the art (circa £50,000 worth) and won't produce a shoddy, incorrect result, ours were always bang on.

 

Have they carried out the simple things like removing the brakes and checking for stones or road debris caught behind the disc? 

 

I wasn't told where the car was going, just it's going to Preston. It could have been Kurb Side Motors who happen to have a 4 wheel alignment set up hence I was wanting the settings to compare the results with theres.

I've no Idea abut the wheels James, I'm seeing the Service department in the morning to see who is talking my car and what is the way forward, I'll keep you posted.

 

 

AG

11 hours ago, James@Pentagon_Seat said:

I don't understand what you mean by any of this?

 

8 hours ago, James@Pentagon_Seat said:

Nevertheless their equipment is state of the art (circa £50,000 worth) and won't produce a shoddy, incorrect result, ours were always bang on.

 

I have to admit I am with the Auric on this. The measuring equipment may be state of the art but the basic geometry is adjusted the same way as they have done for decades.

 

Some people aim for the datum figure and use tolerance to account for the inevitable movement that happens with use and wear. Others will hit the limit of the tolerance and say job done.

 

Having done it myself I know how difficult it is and how frustrating it is to have it on the datum and then drift as things are tightened, however I like to see my cars closer to the datum when aligned. We may be only talking a degree (or much less) here or there but on some cars the combination of settings at the limit of the tolerance is enough to be the difference between it handling like a pig or wearing/sawtoothing tyres and not.

 

Admittedly the Skoda is probably not one of those cars and you are unlikely to feel the difference if it is within the published limits but it does not hurt to know how close your car is to the datum.

 

Tolerances on suspension can be too wide. Tolerances on ride height (Stationary height "a") is +/- 10mm That is why you see some Octavias (like mine) looking nose up. Front is within limits at +10mm, rear is on limits at -10mm all perfectly acceptable to Skoda

 

Just because it is within the technical limits does not make it right