Emissions Update 23R6

[Crinkly Dave]

Hi guys,

I am sure this subject has been thrashed out over several forums, but just wanting current feelings

My 1.6 tdi Octavia 2 has been a great car.  EGR, fuel pump and high pressure replaced under warranty, but she returns 50-60 mpg  over 122k miles and has been great to drive.  Never dropped below 50 mpg under the worst conditions, and usually around 54 mpg with mixed driving.

on 18.1.2018 I took her in for brake fluid change instead of doing it myself.  The service manager offered me the update, and I refused it. Then he insisted that there would be no effect on driveability and fuel consumption, and the bonus was a written guarantee of emissions and exhaust and fuel components replaced up to 160k miles.

 

I stupidly agreed.

Immediately noted acceleration was "softer", there was minor pulsing on gentle overrun, and the fuel consumption indicator seemed to take a dive.

FIrst tank of fuel seemed to indicate a drop to 41mpg.

I have spoken to main dealer, suggesting the update appears to make the EGR being used more, and perhaps  the system sticking on a filter regeneration.    Their suggestion was to pay for a forced regeneration.

 

Can anyone give me links to feedback on the emissions update, and any thing else useful

thank you

 

[Ootohere]

Have a quick scan or search in the Yeti Section, Superb mk2, Fabia Mk2, this section, the General Car Chat Section.

 

You need to make your official complaint to Skoda / VW and then with your 24 year Trust Building Measures see what Skoda / VW are intending doing to compensate you for increased fuel use and a change to your vehicle with the Engine Management now installed and the plastic tat in the air intake.

 

Not for you to pay for forced regens or anything else to be done.

Edited 1 February, 2018 by AwaoffSki

[Crinkly Dave]

Thank you.  I have written to the Main Dealer to complain and ask for removal. I thought by now there may be a joint legal action

 

[Ootohere]

They are not allowed to remove it.

VW Group say the Defeat Device was not illegal, yet it can not be reinstated.

 

Be sure your complaint is a formal one, & not to the Dealership.  It is VW Group that are responsible.

Trust Building Measure - ŠKODA.mhtml

Edited 1 February, 2018 by AwaoffSki

[pikpilot]

48 minutes ago, Crinkly Dave said:

Thank you.  I have written to the Main Dealer to complain and ask for removal. I thought by now there may be a joint legal action

 

 

Dealer will reply with VAG policy statement that the fix cannot be removed. In fact that is the truth although some garages are now finding a work around to the blocking measures.

 

All your answers to questions and more can found by joining the private Facebook group The Volkswagen Diesel Customer Foum (Emissions Scandal).

 

There are nearly 7000 members of this group, most of whom have the same problem as you and more. You can also see they are regularly using the Trust Bulding Measures to have parts replaced at no cost. Some are worried about the cost in future as they come to the end of the 2 year limit on the Trust Building Measures.

[Ootohere]

That is VW Groups 'Trust Building Measures',  that does not mean they are no longer responsible for any premature demise after 24 months.

They might like it t be. 

[Ju1ian1001]

We at worj have had a good few amount of people in with VAG cars and had the "the fix" complaining of bad MPG and and pulsing. we send them back to VW or Audi etc, and to write a letter of complaint to who ever it needs to be, and we won't carry out remedial work so the proof is left in place.

[Redboy]

12 hours ago, Crinkly Dave said:

Thank you.  I have written to the Main Dealer to complain and ask for removal. I thought by now there may be a joint legal action

 

 

I believe that Shark can remove the 'Fix' as one if this site's members has had it done. A friend has just had a A4 TDI fix reversed at another map garage and says it's back to how it should be mpg and driving-wise. Good luck. 

Edited 2 February, 2018 by Redboy
Ironic mispelling of fix :-)

[phil08]

Does having a remap not remove any updates in any case?

 

i know my VRs has an update with the previous owner.

 

would love to revert back 

[PSM]

My VRS has had the fix but no issues. Power is still the same, mpg has been the same as well and there have been no other adverse affects. 

[Ootohere]

Good, how many miles had your car done before getting it?

& that will not be a 1.6 TDI CR.  the last to get the Fix seeing as it was the Software and a plastic tat bit.

Plenty 1.6 TDI CR showing issues since they are many more now done.

[meaty101]

3 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

Good, how many miles had your car done before getting it?

& that will not be a 1.6 TDI CR.  the last to get the Fix seeing as it was the Software and a plastic tat bit.

Plenty 1.6 TDI CR showing issues since they are many more now done.

 

What is the plastic tat bit you refer to? Is that literally what they do stick a plastic part in the intake? So they're just restricting air flow to the engine? Dear God no wonder these engines feel dead after the 'update'. 

[Ootohere]

Slightly modified from this, but you get the idea.

 

[meaty101]

Ah your right. A piece of plastic tat in the air intake!! The size of that company and that's the best they can come up with.

 

 I liked that part when they said it's about rebuilding trust. I'm no expert on this issue but I would suggest fitting the cheat mode in the first place while being bad enough, to then ruin owners cars with poor performance and reduced mpg after the update isn't the best way to go about it. Comical!!

[PSM]

My VRS has done 78k miles but was responding to the post above mine that said they wanted to revert the fix on their vrs. Now it may have adverse affects on the 1.6 but I have seen no issues with the cr170 so can not see why they would need to revert back to original.

[phil08]

Can that bit of plastic be taken out again? 

[meaty101]

No reason why not. Unless it works along side the new software. If they bond it in I'm sure you could replace the intake pipe. 

[promomast]

last entry 2018 but i'm adding my 2012 octavia TDI vrs 2.0 140kw estate had this update in 2017 ... i noted a previous entry here that a vrs came out the other side of this possible nightmare ok and thankfully it seems mine as well 

 

previous owner kept the paperwork ... which plays down the Nox update and goes over the top about skoda trust ... to the point i was concerned about it 

 

i'll attach the paperwork here tomorrow for others not so lucky ... i feel like i just got real lucky however i am concerned for the others not so lucky 

 

hence me reading this thread 

 

tom (promomast) 

 

 

Edited 1 December, 2022 by promomast

[promomast]

my over the top 23R6 paperwork from 2017 ... front and back 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 December, 2022 by promomast