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I replaced the original 225/50-18" wheels with Bridgestone Turanza tyres with 225/55-17R CrossClimate tyres on Triton 7J-17 inch wheels.

 

Our climate does not see a lot of snow, so the primary selection criteria were excellent performance on both warm and cold wet surfaces, excellent dry performance and good on ice. Snow performance is not quite as good as a "proper" winter tyre. I had the same tyre in a slightly narrower version on a T-Roc, and they were very good on dry and wet surfaces and were very quiet.

 

The dealer made a reasonable offer for the original wheels, so all-in-all, less expensive than a separate set of winter wheels including no twice annual faldera about changing and storing wheels.

 

Handy to know that the dealer offered to buy the original wheels back. Ours is on 19" wheels which are a bit hard over potholes and proving difficult to source some all-season tyres for. 

Unlikely a UK dealer would purchase back the wheels / tyres. It is a conundrum what to do about tyres in this country, the tyres on my car look like they will be hopeless in snow but I'm not going to chuck away perfectly good tyres to fit something more suited to bad weather. Why don't manufacturers fit something more suitable for the destination country? (rhetorical question!)

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5 hours ago, Luckypants said:

Unlikely a UK dealer would purchase back the wheels / tyres. It is a conundrum what to do about tyres in this country, the tyres on my car look like they will be hopeless in snow but I'm not going to chuck away perfectly good tyres to fit something more suited to bad weather. Why don't manufacturers fit something more suitable for the destination country? (rhetorical question!)

They do have a choice in Germany. You can order with summer, off-road or ??

I think it is mostly a demand from customers that the dealers are reacting to. 

 

Also, you cannot expect to get full retail price for your used wheels - the dealer has to make money somehow. I have a more than 10 year relationship with my dealer, so we always find a deal that is good for them and good for me. Almost new 18” wheels with 225/50 tyres are desirable, so the dealer can sell at a discount and I get a set of wheels and tyres for 2/3rds of the price.

 

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Succes.........

 

The new wheels and tyres workshop extremely well. It is fairly clear that the 225/55 - 17 size suits the Karoq suspension tuning much better than the original 18 inch wheels. With the original 50 series tyres, the car handled OK, but was not as “together” as my old Yeti’s. This has now changed. The car handles in a fashion that feels harmonious- meaning that it behaves as you expect it to for this type of vehicle. Just like the Yeties did.

 

On top of that, the Michelin CrossClimate tyres are significantly less noisy than the Bridgestone Turanzas. So high speed motorway trips are much more relaxing. I know from past experience that the CrossClimates perform well in both dry and wet conditions, so a little poorer snow performance in our climate is a very small disadvantage.

 

The Skoda Triton wheels in the dark grey colour with no shiny bits look good on the white car, and does not show the brake dust - which was the purpose of selecting them.

 

So, who’s a happy camper now?

23 hours ago, Agerbundsen said:

Succes.........

 

The new wheels and tyres workshop extremely well. It is fairly clear that the 225/55 - 17 size suits the Karoq suspension tuning much better than the original 18 inch wheels. With the original 50 series tyres, the car handled OK, but was not as “together” as my old Yeti’s. This has now changed. The car handles in a fashion that feels harmonious- meaning that it behaves as you expect it to for this type of vehicle. Just like the Yeties did.

 

On top of that, the Michelin CrossClimate tyres are significantly less noisy than the Bridgestone Turanzas. So high speed motorway trips are much more relaxing. I know from past experience that the CrossClimates perform well in both dry and wet conditions, so a little poorer snow performance in our climate is a very small disadvantage.

 

The Skoda Triton wheels in the dark grey colour with no shiny bits look good on the white car, and does not show the brake dust - which was the purpose of selecting them.

 

So, who’s a happy camper now?

How about a photo?

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Hre you go

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Black (platinum) triton wheels ??? Not seen those before :o

 

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It is a conundrum what to do about tyres in this country, the tyres on my car look like they will be hopeless in snow

 

I had the standard bridgestones on my Octy and last winter with the bad snow they performed really well, I never got stuck anywhere.

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3 hours ago, Panther_uk said:

Black (platinum) triton wheels ??? Not seen those before :o

I had the standard bridgestones on my Octy and last winter with the bad snow they performed really well, I never got stuck anywhere.

The Triton wheels are standard Original Skoda optional 7J-17" wheels. They are not really black, but a VERY dark grey. No small, narrow fiddly bits in the wheel design, so no places you cannot get to and clean, and the color does not show the brake dust much.  The standard wheel brushes in the car wash does clean them quite well.

 

It's you that performed well in the snow with Brigdestone Turanza summer tyres - not the tyres.

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I've got Triton as standard on my SE Tech, but only ever seen the silver ones :)

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No black 17" Tritons listed in the Slovenian configurator either - only silver.

Black triton part no. 57A071497A ZG6

11 hours ago, Agerbundsen said:

Hre you go

 

 

Thanks very much. The wheels look smart and the tyres are an excellent choice. It's the set up I want if they ever bring out a 4x4 with the 1.5 TSI engine.

Even if it's a bit too early, for the winter season should I buy a 17" wheels set or should I stay with the 18" wheels and to buy only the tyres?

I think that a 17" winter tyre is much cheaper than the 18" and that it will compensate a good part from the wheels price

I'm tempted to choose the variant with 17" wheels, especially if I find the original wheels.

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The selection of 225/50-18R winter tyres is very limited. 225/55-17R or 215/60-17R are much more available. 

 

If you need to be able to fit snow chains, the tyres have to be 215/60-16 on 6J-16" wheels.

On ‎19‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 14:04, Luckypants said:

Unlikely a UK dealer would purchase back the wheels / tyres. It is a conundrum what to do about tyres in this country, the tyres on my car look like they will be hopeless in snow but I'm not going to chuck away perfectly good tyres to fit something more suited to bad weather. Why don't manufacturers fit something more suitable for the destination country? (rhetorical question!)

The Michelin 215/55 R18 standard tyres on our car (SEL) coped well in about 2" of snow back in January when alot of other none SUV vehicles were struggling for traction. Much better option than my VRS245 would have been.:biggrin:

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Picked my edition 1.5tsi two weeks ago. Not happy with the harsh ride especially on rough A roads. I am comparing it with my previous Octavia scout. Checked air pressure, tyres are inflated to correct 2.4 bar. Will probably look to change with after market alloys and tyres 17 inch preferably. Any one done this yet?

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Look at this very detailed review of  all Season Tyres:

 

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-Auto-Bild-SUV-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

 

Then you can decide which type of performance is best for your location - and whether you need "real" winter tyres to drive in mountains or northern Scandinavia or Scotland in winter. Note the reviewer's comments on UK use and that the original ratings are based on Central Europe conditions.

 

Read earlier comments in this thread for more details. Note that my car is a 2.0 TDI 4x4, so quite a bit heavier and different original tyres and rear axle than the 1.5 TSI. Also, my benchmark is two 4x4 Yetis' over a 9 year period of happy ownership.

 

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My local dealer is happy to change the 18" wheels and tyres for no charge.  But he did point out on reselling as a part exchange it may not be considered worth as much as it is not the original fit.  What actual size of 17" wheels are required when considering width.

 

 

 

Karoq 2.0 4x4 SEL due on September 1st under the WLTP rules  and built in May. Petrol blue with paddles Adaptive Cruise control, heated screen and seats  and washers. No winch

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8 hours ago, Channel said:

My local dealer is happy to change the 18" wheels and tyres for no charge.  But he did point out on reselling as a part exchange it may not be considered worth as much as it is not the original fit.  What actual size of 17" wheels are required when considering width.

 

 

 

Karoq 2.0 4x4 SEL due on September 1st under the WLTP rules  and built in May. Petrol blue with paddles Adaptive Cruise control, heated screen and seats  and washers. No winch

7J-17, 45mm  off-set

Just replied to a different thread, but my aftermarket 7.5J x 17" wheels with 235/55 17 (inherited from my previous car) are about the limit. GPS and speedo match and they're a lot more comfortable then my 245/45 18 summer set-up on 8J rims.  Both are ET45.

Anybody thinking of using their old Yeti winter wheels and tyres

 

mine are 16 inch

14 minutes ago, 33q said:

Anybody thinking of using their old Yeti winter wheels and tyres

 

mine are 16 inch

Looks like my 16” Yeti wheels with 215x60 Nokian WR D3’s might end up on my sons Karoq as they won’t fit my Kodiaq.

I might have some 8.5x18 anthracite wheels with 235/55 18 Weatherproofs >6mm on as I'm signing the order for my next car tomorrow.

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