Picked it up yesterday, really happy bunny. Drives nicer than the previous 1.2 colour edition I had, even with Skodas sports suspension it rides nicer. Dealer even threw in a free spare wheel.

Modern cars, diesel and petrol, now have fuel particulate filters. It used to be just diesel engines. I say this so you are aware of driving it properly so that the particulate filter (DPF or GPF) doesn't clog-up. Avoid too many short journeys. Happy driving. The car looks lovely.

Looks great. Can't wait to get mine. Went into production last week in the factory.

The petrol particulate filters work differently than the diesel ones. As far as I'm aware, they don't have the dpf issues.

It's early days yet (I believe they only started to fit them from September 2018) but I have read a couple of questions in www.honestjohn.co.uk regarding blocked GPFs. Unfortunately I can't find the articles now or I would have copied & pasted the links in this thread. Sorry about not finding the links but 'Happy Motoring' to you.

Like Sikejsudjek, I'm also eagerly awaiting mine.  Your colour blue looks good though I've gone for Denim Blue.  Was due to be built this week so waiting to hear from the dealer that's it's now built and when it might be on it's way to the UK.  He reckoned it might be 5 or 6 weeks after, does anyone have any experience?

 

Mine was due to be built week starting May 13th, but was actually started the week before. As of yesterday it was on the train to the German port. Other posts I've seen on here suggest anything from 3-5 weeks, although Skoda Uk told me 5-7 which seems a bit on the long side. Depends when it gets on a ship I guess.

Edited 18 May, 20197 yr by sikejsudjek

On 16/05/2019 at 19:02, BarryG said:

The petrol particulate filters work differently than the diesel ones. As far as I'm aware, they don't have the dpf issues.

 

I think that the exhaust coming out of a GDI engine is cleaner as far as particulates is concerned and hotter than that of a Diesel DI engine, so not so much of an issue expected.

TBH DFPs are only issues for people who have bought the wrong car.

 

Mine took four weeks from build to arriving at the dealers. Done 300 miles now, I'm preferring it to any Skoda I've had before and my previous Ibiza. Noticed they've deleted the under seat storage boxes though, but I got an umbrella instead! Loving the centre armrest.

Re GPF's.

There are owners / drivers questioning if the way their petrol car is behaving might be to do with the GPF.

Time will tell about them, because VW Group have not said much to those that have bought / leased cars with them, and might not even be aware.

PPF/GPF cars are not new. It's just that it's law now to have them fitted. No intrinsic problems are known. My own Citroen has a GPF. It makes no difference to the way the car runs especially if the engine designers have done their job properly. DPF's work differently in some respects, needing a burning agent to be injected on occasions to remove harmful deposits. This is because diesels that use a DPF cannot maintain a high enough exhaust temp unless the vehicle is used at higher speeds for periods of time, or mostly out of traffic driving. Petrol engines have no such issues and of course, petrol engines produce a different type of carbon particulate that on the whole does not benefit from additional burn. All PPF/GPF/DPF's have a finite life with PPF/GPF's having the longest most trouble free service life.

On 18/05/2019 at 17:11, Skoffski said:

Re GPF's.

There are owners / drivers questioning if the way their petrol car is behaving might be to do with the GPF.

Time will tell about them, because VW Group have not said much to those that have bought / leased cars with them, and might not even be aware.

 

The only time I've seen a problem with a PPF/GPF is when we had a brand new engine being tested with a faulty PPF/GPF. One of the seams on it had a tiny air leak. Very unusual and I'd never seen that before. It of course affected operating pressure and this rippled it's way through all the engine management at certain operating loads and revs. Easily cured but also not a common problem.

How common yet are owners/ drivers with a tsi with gpf that have covered a few thousand miles. Time will tell how things go. The 1.5tsi evo issues might be what has caused some concern and thinking it could be the gpf causing what feels like a dpf regen can. 

I have little or no expertise in the field but reports from Briskoda members who have the DPF app monitors, is that a DPF regen requires a 550 deg C temp to burn off the collected soot particles. This temperature is way above normal operating temperatures unless you are towing a heavy caravan up a hill or full bore on an Autobahn which is why a diesel regen always requires the special injection of fuel to achieve a burn off.

 

Again from what I have read, the GPF does not require this special injection because the normal operating temperatures of the petrol exhaust are sufficient to achieve a burn off, however that still means that the engine has to be run up to temperature for long enough to achieve this.

 

Recently our Octavia 1.4tsi (2014 so no dpf) did a series of very short journeys (less than 2km) from cold with long stops in between so the engine never got near operating temperature. My wife came in after completing another such journey complaining that the engine was 'bubbling' and indeed it was from all the water trapped in the exhaust. It gave me an excuse to take it for a longer, more enthusiastic, run to fix the 'bubbling' but I dread to think what could have happened if a GPF was fitted and subjected to that sort of treatment for any length of time.

 

The mythical old dear (beloved entity of 2nd hand car dealers) who only uses her car to go to church on Sundays had better buy an EV in future.

 

Thought bubble: I wonder if there is a GPF monitoring app?

 

Edited 27 May, 20197 yr by Gerrycan

I'm sure the petrol filters will be fine, there isn't even a warning light for them on the dashboard.

The gasoline particulate filter is active continuously like oil filter is.

 

Completely different to the DPF which only operates periodically at high temperatures 

Modern high compression petrol engines, particularly the GDI variety, produce a considerable number of 'Particulates' per power stroke (PPPS). GDI petrol engines are in fact some of the dirtiest petrol engines made. All GDI petrol engines were initially banned from the United States when they first came out due to this fact. Mitsubushi who pioneered the GDI suddenly found themselves left with loads of unsold vehicles with dangerous levels of pollution being emitted from the exhausts. So the solution was to sell them to the UK and some other EU countries so we could all be poisoned by them.  So the Eu decided to do something about it and ordered the emissions clean up with GPF's. The particulates made by GDI and other high compression petrol engines a very hard nano sized gritty carbon, in the main!  The higher the compression the more PPPS are produced. The problem is that this particulate matter is so small it gets inhaled into the lungs, and like diesel particulates, these penetrate blood vessels and get carried up to the brain and other organs where they cause cancer. A further issue is that petrol particulates have a much faster effect on the health of humans than diesel engine particulates because the particulates from petrol engines have naturally occurring relatively high amounts of benzine in them (amongst many other things).

 

There is no need for a PPF/GPF to regen like in diesel engined cars. It does no good. But there are no known problems with petrol particulate filters, and these have been out for a number of years now on some cars and trucks all over the world.  So don't worry about them!

Edited 3 June, 20197 yr by Estate Man

@Estate Man

Sorry but you told people not to worry about certain engines and gearboxes and said no problems, then you had problems, others had problems, you move on get another brand and then post elsewhere about problems. 

Strange but actually what you did and do.  So time will tell and it will all come out in the wash eventually if there are issues or problems 

even if just in small numbers.

 

There are different types of 'Gasoline Particulate Filters' / Materials / Manufacturers.

 

?

Does anyone know what have VW Group gone for, manufactured by whom and what is the cost of a replacement one fitted at a VW Group main dealership in the UK if one was required to be replaced in the Manufacturers Warranty Period or out of warranty?

Edited 3 June, 20197 yr by Skoffski

Cost is dependent on the type of GPF/PPF fitted. If it's incorparated as a 4-way catalytic converter with PPF trapping qualities then it's going to cost a lot.  A separate filter can be as little as £100.

@Estate Man

Since we are talking Skoda & Fabia Mk3 1.0TSI do you know what the parts cost then?  Rather than generalising.

8 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

@Estate Man

Sorry but you told people not to worry about certain engines and gearboxes and said no problems, then you had problems, others had problems, you move on get another brand and then post elsewhere about problems. 

Strange but actually what you did and do.  So time will tell and it will all come out in the wash eventually if there are issues or problems 

even if just in small numbers.

 

There are different types of 'Gasoline Particulate Filters' / Materials / Manufacturers.

 

?

Does anyone know what have VW Group gone for, manufactured by whom and what is the cost of a replacement one fitted at a VW Group main dealership in the UK if one was required to be replaced in the Manufacturers Warranty Period or out of warranty?

 

As usual, what are you going on about Skoffski? indeed, I wonder if you ever properly read any of my post let alone understand them!

 

Most manufacturers use a catalyst and PPF/GPF combined unit. It saves weight and space. Catalysts don't give any trouble and neither do the GPF's PPF's. I worked with them on and off for years.

 

 

1 minute ago, Skoffski said:

@Estate Man

Since we are talking Skoda & Fabia Mk3 1.0TSI do you know what the parts cost then?  Rather than generalising.

 

No. I'm on my break at the moment before blueprinting an engine which will take me well into the night. But as you probably have more time than me why don't you look it up. After all, you are the google king on here!

@Estate Man

Do you know what is used with the 1.0TSI or not, and know the cost of replacement. Are you on about reliability and proven long life until you are proven to be talking mince again.

ie DQ200 DSG from 2015.

2 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

@Estate Man

Do you know what is used with the 1.0TSI or not, and know the cost of replacement. Are you on about reliability and proven long life until you are proven to be talking mince again.

ie DQ200 DSG from 2015.

 

Have you lost the ability to read again? lol