I'm about to purchase 2016 2.0 SEL dsg 48k one owner. 

 

I have seen a print out of Skoda service history showing 3 "services". 

 

The trader is linked to the main skoda dealer group as this car appeared on their site but sent me to the trader site. They had lots of +3year plus skoda models. 

 

They said they have carried out an oil service  and dsg oil change but research here now tells me now that dsg oil service should have been at 40k so it may have been missed by main dealer perhaps. 

 

Should I walk away? 

 

Any comments appreciated. 

 

 

I doubt any damage would have occurred by going 8k over the interval. 

Are you getting a Warranty with it?

  If it is a Dealer / Trader then if it is not right then reject it ASAP if a wrong one.

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Is it one owner or actually 1 registered keeper, which really means not much if the One Keeper was Hertz.

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Who was that keeper that is on the V5?

Been a long time since I bought a new used car so forgive my ignorance.  From what i remember last week the v5 had only one name/address on it. They are selling as one owner. But I do understand registered keeper can be different to actual owner.. (correct me if wrong please)

 

6 month warranty provided by the trader. 

 

Techie

 

thanks for the comment. 

With a late DSG service I'd push for a longer warranty,  even if it's an third party warranty that will cover the DSG.

Thanks for comments

 

Undoubtedly the Internet has more comments on faults with dsg than on cars that have never had any issues so I could get another warranty after the six months anyway to cover the dsg privately.  Have to say I didn't ask if they would do a longer one anyway as 6 months seemed typical duration after enquires to other traders with similar cars. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The posts / comments you will mostly see are about the DQ200 DSG that has no Service Schedule / Guideline or Manufacturers recommendations.

 

Not that many on missed DSG oil changes by just a few thousand miles, usually it is after 20,000 miles past 40,000.

Lots of Skoda Approved or VW, Audi. SEAT used cars with Full Main Dealer Service histories can have missed DSG Oil Changes or Haldex Oil Changes.

it is good you are aware of it as plenty Service Desk Staff are clueless.

 

PS, funnily there is a recent post in another section with a owner with a nearly new car with a 7 speed wet DSG that has failed,...

Edited 26 July, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

As it is the DQ250 I'm with @Tech1e I doubt much will have happened to it in 8K miles, and not much thats likely to show up between 6-months and a year. it's a fairly bulletproof gearbox.

 

Much would depend on the condition of the rest of the car

Really appreciate the responses. Car is in very good condition. 

 

I'm reassured now this shouldn't put me off.

 

Moving to this octavia is going to great. It's such a smooth effortless drive.  

 

My Seat Altea 2005 tdi 1.9pd passed 170000 miles just today but it's time to say goodbye.  It only broke down once in all those miles due to a failed clutch master cylinder. Not bad in my book😀

 

 

 

Unless it's a particularly cheap car I'd look for one serviced to schedule. Going over by 8k is a fairly significant amount over, not 1 or 2k, and it's hardly a rare car.

 

I think you'd struggle with a warranty on this in the future unless the supplying dealer was warranting any faults. Any warranty company will happily take your money for the policy, but at the point of making a future claim on the DSG box, service history will be the first thing queried and if it's not serviced to schedule the warranty company will likely use it as their get out of jail free card and not pay out.

Agree with Ahenners - plenty more fish in the sea and no warranty I know will cover items that haven't been maintained as recommended by the manufacturer.

 

As always, before paying money for any warranty, especially a 3rd party warranty, read the small print.

Agree with others that there is probably no damage done but I would still walk away and keep looking as there are plenty more around. If they’ve skimped on the gearbox service knowing they were going to sell it on , then what else has been skimped on and has the car actually been looked after or just ragged about for 3 years until the next one comes along. 

Thanks for further comments appreciated

 

I have spoken to the service department of the main dealer connected to the trader. They confirmed all services have been done at fixed intervals  and it was changed from flexible servicing to fixed intervals from new in 2016, which is good so its not been running on sludgy oil until 18.5k each time. 

 

They carried out the DSG oil change was in June along with an oil service and new front brake pads which I had noted were on the last MOT advisory. 

 

So to me, its more reassuring that its never been out of the SKODA network in its life. I plan to keep to SKODA dealer servicing for the time being anyway. 

 

Odd it went to their Trade Sales, but then maybe not.

 

Does it show as Brake Fluid changed when the brake pads were & the DSG Service was done since that was due by manufacturers recommendations.

 

At least a Skoda Warranty should be fine if you take one out as Skoda do not clearly show DSG servicing as a Scheduled item, not even Guidelines, just Recommendation.

Main Dealers Service History more often shows what is not done rather than what does get done.

http://insurewithskoda.co.uk/extended-warranty

Check the T&C's and exclusions and cost of work covered.

Edited 27 July, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

From what i could make out the main dealer site does not list cars older than three years so goes to the trader point. 

 

I cannot see the info as I was on the phone, I have an invoice from the trader for all work carried out and brake fluid is not on there admittedly believe its at year 3 then every two after that from another post. I will ask them to get that done. 

 

DSG oil service just states part number for oil and filter and quantity at total cost of £90 of oil and 11.23 for filter. 

 

They also did OBD check and clear but I have full VCDS so checked it too after the test drive when I went to view and no faults showed up . 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 July, 20196 yr by paulski

Plugging them in and checking, and road testing is what all should be doing.

They should not say they do if they dont, but some do say they do and yet dont.

1 hour ago, Roottootemoot said:

Odd it went to their Trade Sales, but then maybe not

 

At least a Skoda Warranty should be fine if you take one out

http://insurewithskoda.co.uk/extended-warranty

Check the T&C's and exclusions and cost of work covered.

 

Certainly not unusual to pass on older cars to the trade. But if you are set on an extended warranty, perhaps an idea to contact Skoda first and inform them of that late DSG oil service:

 

FAQ: HOW DO I KNOW IF I AM ELIGAILE?

 

> You must make sure your vehicle is serviced in accordance with the manufacturer's schedule.

 

the following may/may not apply in your case:

 

> Your vehicle has not been modified from the manufacturer's specification (manufacturer fitted optional extras are not classed as being a modification)

> You are not looking to use the vehicle for hire or reward (taxi), business, courier services or emergency services use

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 July, 20196 yr by Guest

My local used car dealer were trying to source an Octavia VRS for me and had access to ex fleet auctions. However they couldn't find one with evidence that the DGS service had been done. Out of dozens of them! 

It is a Skoda / VW Group issue.   Having a service plan does not mean that things like DSG, Haldex, Brakes get serviced to manufacturers recommendations and things that Dealerships advice like A/C getting serviced is not included so not carried out

Im on my 2nd dsg box. Any one know weather its the wet or dry set up? Is the 7 speed and the 2 liter diesel engine.

2 litre TSI or TDI's are wet clutch.

 

DQ200 7 Speed Dry are only on cars with up to 250Nm Torque from the factory.

Most powerful being the 1.8 TSI 192ps engines.

I bought a Skoda Octavia Elegance 148bhp 2013 with 6 speed dsg, with 55k miles on the clock, from a Skoda dealer who had run it from new. Last person driving it was sales manager’s wife. I wasn’t aware that dsg needed servicing every 40k until mine had done 90k. At that point I queried when the last dsg service was done with the dealer but there was nothing to say ‘dsg service’, just oil change. The service rep guessed at when it was done but it wasn’t close to 40k. I noted that there was no dsg tick box in the service log book either. I never had a problem with the car, it was fantastic and took me and my family to Spain each year with ease.

 

I’ve since traded in for a Passat GT estate with same engine/dsg gear box at 48k, the vw service log book does have a dsg tick box but wasn’t ticked. I had the service done myself but checked with my trusted mechanic, of 10 years VW experience, who advised that it isn’t critical but should be done within about 10k of 40k. Better safe than sorry of course and personally would get it done on schedule.

 

My point really is that I too have read so many bad reports of these gearboxes and rarely positive reviews from normal drivers. I treat my car well and look after it and never had a problem with the gearbox.

 

i expect your Octavia will serve you very well indeed, it’s a great car. 

 

If you were wondering why I traded? I needed a bit more space for growing kids when driving to Spain.

I have read magazines and forums for years and see very few reported issues with Wet Clutch DSG's.

Loads on Twin Dry Clutch in VW Group & Fords, but then that is for good reason and finally Ford have had to be honest on issues, VW Group are never going to do that.

18 hours ago, Roottootemoot said:

I have read magazines and forums for years and see very few reported issues with Wet Clutch DSG's.

Loads on Twin Dry Clutch in VW Group & Fords, but then that is for good reason and finally Ford have had to be honest on issues, VW Group are never going to do that.

 

Ford have given up and are reverting back to torque converter autos. Their new 10 and 9 speeders are actually quite good.