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1.8 tsi v 1,4 tsi L&K Which is best?

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Looking at facelift L&K models, there are a few with the 1.8 N.A, engine but most with the latter 1.4 turbo.

Any one owned both to give a comparison, would be used for towing small caravan, I'm not bothered about the different VED.

 

There are plenty of posts saying don't touch the 1.8 with a bargepole! 
 

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1 minute ago, Llanigraham said:

There are plenty of posts saying don't touch the 1.8 with a bargepole! 
 

Reason?

3 minutes ago, Yeti333 said:

Reason?

 

Edited by bigjohn

Look at the top of the Octavia Mk2 Section at the pinned thread.

 

If a member or someone you find has one that has a new engine fitted maybe check that out.

14 minutes ago, Yeti333 said:

"there are a few with the 1.8 N.A, engine but most with the latter 1.4 turbo."

 

 

The 1.8 is also a turbo engine.

 

The later 1.4tsi EA211 (oil filter down below near the sump) is a great engine.

 

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Ok thats good to know.

The 1.8 must be the same engine as the 2.0 (EA888?) I had one of those in an A4, used oil like crazy so got rid.

What is it with VAG and their 4 pot petrols ? the 1.8 and the 2.0 are carp and now I've seen the thread about the 1.5 being bad also!

Looks like they were concertrating too hard on fiddling their diesel emisions to bother making a good petrol.

 

15 minutes ago, bigjohn said:

The later 1.4tsi EA211 (oil filter down below near the sump) is a great engine.

Is this the only 1.4 fitted to facelift Yetis?

Timing belt or chain?

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added question

..Ok, I did once have a 1.8 petrol in the original Octavia VRS, mk1...simply cracking car that would go like stink (...if you wanted to), but being a company car it went back after 3 years. Next car was an Octavia 2.0 ltr diesel which I had as a company car and then bought it and then eventually changed it for a 1.4 petrol Octavia due to doing lower annual mileage.

 

I found the 1.4 petrol a really nice car to drive, almost the same as the diesel in driveability, but obviously losing out in pure "torque", but it would still pull well from low rev and returned virtually the same mpg as the diesel but a lot smooth more refined, (smoother and quieter...kept thinking I had stalled it!).

Role on another few years and changed the Octavia 1.4 (122hp) for a 1.4 Yeti (148hp), as I intended to tow a larger caravan. Never got around to the larger caravan but simply love the higher power 1.4 petrol, lots of torque, very smooth and quiet and reasonable economy for an AWD, (40+mpg).

 

Was not bothered about AWD but it's the only version they do with the 1.4. Like others have said I have read about loads of problems with the 1.8, but nothing (so far) regarding the 1.4. Only problem is, (as I found out when I was looking), they seem to be few and far between.

 

I also note that some of the other VAG group 1.4 offerings have the "cylinders on demand" thing. Don't think they ever fitted that engine to the Yeti, and to be honest it just seems like something else to go wrong?

 

In short my recommendation (based on what I have read and my current experience of a 1.4 ), is to go for the 1.4 and avoid the 1.8 like the plague....IMHO.

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The 1.4 Yeti L & K drives well enough but mine always felt a little bit flat, pretty thirsty as well, low 30's mpg is pretty standard. It's not the same engine that people rave about in the Octavia 3. Maybe not as well thought of these days but I'd stick with the diesel version if you do a reasonable mileage or maybe the 1.2 petrol in a decent spec.

I would avoid the 1.8 tsi, heres my example:

 

started at 40k miles, got worse over 3 years, 1 litre of oil ended up lasting 100 miles when used on motorways.

 

1. Oil spitting out of exhaust on a cold start.

 

2. took out the plugs and found cylinders 1 and 4 foiled in oil, 2 and 3 were nice and dry and clean.  

 

 

oil.jpg

 

https://filebin.net/kqi14uwjfv381qu2 for the video of the 4 cylinders :) 

 

 

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I wouldn't buy any L&K anyway due to the potential issues with the standard sunroof leaking!

I used to own a 1.4tsi L&K and it was a lovely car - no problems while I had it but as Ken said above - there have been many reports of leaking sunroofs which get expensive to fix out of warranty.

Never had a leak in 4 years of ownership of my L & K.....Some Skodas don’t need a sunroof,some manage to fill the foot wells and boots with water some other way, from some of the posts I’ve read on here !

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Called my local Dealer today to see what they had in the way of demo's as I may consider a Karoq. They've got two Karoq's and two Kodiac's and they are all diesels!

so much for the end of diesel popularity.

People still buy diesels.

When there are none there that shows they are selling like hot cakes, when they have them they need to shift them.

2 hours ago, Yeti333 said:

Called my local Dealer today to see what they had in the way of demo's as I may consider a Karoq. They've got two Karoq's and two Kodiac's and they are all diesels!

so much for the end of diesel popularity.

 

 

Actually I had a Kodiac Diesel DSG a while ago as a courtesy car and I thought it was fab. To drive it didn't feel as big as it looks from the outside and I found it amazingly comfortable.  Worth considering these day as there seems to be better diesel deals and the DPF technology is now established and stable whereas the OPF technology on petrol car is the new kid on the block.

 

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We have had our FL L&K 1.8 for 6 years, regular service none of the roof leak / engine oil , seems like it was the last one to to get the 1.8 as just after purchase they all moved to the 1.4.

Read as much of this as you dare, and then make up your mind...

 

 

Whats wrong with an euro 6 diesel? Its as clean now as a petrol car and emits less Co2! I would much rather tow with a diesel than a petrol as the engine has the torque to do the job without excess revs.

Its the publics confusion as to emissions from earlier cars euro 5 or older, and the silly newspaper articles saying "diesels to be banned" when they really mean up to Euro 4 or something.

 

By pushing punters into petrol Co2 rates are rising again, as an electric car is just not suitable for many users.

As long as you do regular longish trips a diesel is the best bet for the climate compared to an equivalent power petrol.

 

And I am not anti petrol, it has its place. Just traded my wifes euro 5 fabia diesel that was not longer doing long trips to keep it healthy for a petrol citigo. This does about the same fuel consumption as the diesel did.

What might be wrong with a Euro 6 TDI SCR is that AdBlue system and owning a car with that out of manufacturers warranty.

There are enough that have trouble with the system from pretty new and when topping up and a poor response from Dealerships and Skoda.

 

At 4 years on do you really want to be landed with a troublesome one, and there is the DPF to be considered still.

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2 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

 

Its the publics confusion as to emissions from earlier cars euro 5 or older, and the silly newspaper articles saying "diesels to be banned" when they really mean up to Euro 4 or something.

 

 

Bristol Council is proposing a ban in certain areas during the day seven days a week of ALL private diesel cars (including EURO 6) from March 2021. Thin end of wedge?

 

https://www.cleanairforbristol.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I suspect Bristol will rapidly have to back down as it is discrimination against diesel owners which are much cleaner than many of the petrol cars which are still to be permitted, and at the same time promoting more co2 emissions?

 

It suggests to me that the councillors really have no understanding of what they are proposing.

 

By all means exclude Euro 5 and older, but if they do that they have to also exclude all the equally polluting older petrol vehicles, and all delivery lorries and busses, and most vans since they will be diesel as well. If they exclude euro 6 diesels, then to be fair all petrol vehicles should also be excluded, with access limited to so called green electric and hydrogen powered vehicles only.

And while they are at it make all the buildings, both private and business turn off their gas fired central heating systems, which are the major pollution source in towns.

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Thanks for all the input on this.

 I've pretty much given up on Skoda now as the only Yeti with AWD and a petrol engine is the L&K 1.4 and these all have the pano roof which is another world of trouble.

Looked at Karoq's and the 1.5 petrol has it's own problems that I would do well to avoid, So all thats left is the 2.0 Karoq which are rare as rocking horse poo and come with rubber band tyres.

And before anyone else says the D word.. I don't want another one ever, thanks.

I am looking at a Vitara AWD auto next?...just something to consider if you want an AWD petrol...

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