vRS Engine Cover Recall

[zetzet]

12 hours ago, Mario_Delgado said:

Besides the fact that I am not fan of leaving the top engine side so unprotected, one of my concerns was and is that one, that there is the potential risk of not being called by Skoda for the new part ... so that's the reason why I still have the old part fitted.

There is nothing to protect there. You should just remove it yourself and keep it until they give you a new one. If this ****ty one sets your car on fire your insurance might deny the claim, since Skoda has informed you about a recall. 

[Tishout]

55 minutes ago, zetzet said:

There is nothing to protect there. You should just remove it yourself and keep it until they give you a new one. If this ****ty one sets your car on fire your insurance might deny the claim, since Skoda has informed you about a recall. 

Not arguing, but do you think the purpose of the cover is just cosmetic?

[zetzet]

1 hour ago, Tishout said:

Not arguing, but do you think the purpose of the cover is just cosmetic?

It helps efficiency in winter and pedestrian crash tests. But the overall impact is pretty low. 

[David Heavey]

I have this morning spoken with a the local Skoda Dealer and they say they have no news of replacement Engine cover and they do not expect a new one to arrive any time soon.

[Ootohere]

If you really care, 

The dealerships got paid to carry out the Safety Critical DVLA official job on behalf of Skoda / VW UK.  They were the agent.

 

Do not expect a Service Desk Person or Service Manager to tell you much unless their boss, dealer principal is getting ready to earn more for the Dealership / Dealership group with a 'RECALL', and letting Registered owners know to 'Come on down'.

 

Ask Skoda / VW UK when they are replacing your paid for part. Ask in writing.  

Remember it is this crowd that deal with stuff, but tell them if they do not know to get onto the Skoda / VW CEO, or one of their minions from the Senior Team'. 

 

 

Edited 19 January, 2023 by toot

[Mario_Delgado]

On 18/01/2023 at 23:29, zetzet said:

There is nothing to protect there. You should just remove it yourself and keep it until they give you a new one. If this ****ty one sets your car on fire your insurance might deny the claim, since Skoda has informed you about a recall. 

 

Thanks @zetzet for your kind recommendation, but I think I will keep the cover as it is until the replacement day arrives ... if it arrives one day, because seem that they are not as focus to provide new covers as they were to remove them.

[Mario_Delgado]

Well ... pushed a little bit by my faith on the new cover already available without notice .. I went yesterday to the dealer for this and ... Error ! car was delivered without the cover.

Had a "funny" argument with the two front desk guys and, long story short, they do not care about the client once the cover is removed; risk is closed for VW group ... therefore, problem solved. Soooo ... I am going to do it my way. 

I want to keep it in a budget, wanna put cash on the downpipe after ECU remap, so I bought a used 06k103925dd/de/df part from a VW Passat B8 2.0 TSI. After checking @bigreddognz photos (Thanks a lot for the top notch quality!) the part should work, locking points are in the same position. 

After the exhaustive photo comparison, just two remarks from EU vs NZ versions:

- Do you know why the oil fill cap is located on the exhaust camshaft position in NZ version whilst in EU is on the inlet position?

- Do you know why the turbo is located in a lower position in NZ version? I am missing the O2 sensor in the downpipe collar ... I guess it is due to different emission regulation ... but the lower position? 

 

[TheUltraRunner]

Nice catch Mario. It looks like also some other bits and pieces are positioned different.

This is EU version of the engine for comparison.

[mfcrob1]

I thought the dealership were fobbing me off about the cover till this post came up, at least I know they weren’t lying now 

[Hairy_Joe]

Has anyone tried to order a new cover from Skoda?

 

 

Edited 22 February, 2023 by Hairy_Joe

[TheUltraRunner]

On 21/02/2023 at 12:00, Mario_Delgado said:

Well ... pushed a little bit by my faith on the new cover already available without notice .. I went yesterday to the dealer for this and ... Error ! car was delivered without the cover.

Had a "funny" argument with the two front desk guys and, long story short, they do not care about the client once the cover is removed; risk is closed for VW group ... therefore, problem solved. Soooo ... I am going to do it my way. 

I want to keep it in a budget, wanna put cash on the downpipe after ECU remap, so I bought a used 06k103925dd/de/df part from a VW Passat B8 2.0 TSI. After checking @bigreddognz photos (Thanks a lot for the top notch quality!) the part should work, locking points are in the same position. 

After the exhaustive photo comparison, just two remarks from EU vs NZ versions:

- Do you know why the oil fill cap is located on the exhaust camshaft position in NZ version whilst in EU is on the inlet position?

- Do you know why the turbo is located in a lower position in NZ version? I am missing the O2 sensor in the downpipe collar ... I guess it is due to different emission regulation ... but the lower position? 

 

Looks like in NZ they still have the gen3 engines. Like for example in the South Africa. 
Here is the comment from Racingline Performance from Facebook discussing about differences between gen3 and gen4 engines.

[Mario_Delgado]

12 hours ago, TheUltraRunner said:

Looks like in NZ they still have the gen3 engines. Like for example in the South Africa. 
Here is the comment from Racingline Performance from Facebook discussing about differences between gen3 and gen4 engines.

 

Then they do not have DNPA engines but DKTB … Therefore ECUs I guess they are different, not the SImos 19.6  but the 18 ... Interesting. 

Answering @Hairy_Joe if you go to Skoda with for VIN they will tell you that the part is not compatible, at least that's what they told me. I do not have full access to erWin, so I am not able to double check. 

 

[Mario_Delgado]

And there it is:

 

 

It fits like a glove. There is waaaay more clearance in the back side with the turbo and downpipe than with the original one. No clashes with the upper part of the engine but the engine tap is hidden any time so, If you want to put oil in, you have to remove the cover ... 4 seconds movement. 

[Tishout]

30 minutes ago, Mario_Delgado said:

And there it is:

 

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It fits like a glove. There is waaaay more clearance in the back side with the turbo and downpipe than with the original one. No clashes with the upper part of the engine but the engine tap is hidden any time so, If you want to put oil in, you have to remove the cover ... 4 seconds movement. 

Looks good. How much did that cost you?

[Mario_Delgado]

70 EUR with 20 EUR express shipment. Part just 50 EUR.

Edited 23 February, 2023 by Mario_Delgado

[Tishout]

1 hour ago, Mario_Delgado said:

70 EUR with 20 EUR express shipment. Part just 50 EUR.

Where did you buy it from? Couldn't find anything on ebay...

[BNB90]

6 hours ago, Mario_Delgado said:

And there it is:

 

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It fits like a glove. There is waaaay more clearance in the back side with the turbo and downpipe than with the original one. No clashes with the upper part of the engine but the engine tap is hidden any time so, If you want to put oil in, you have to remove the cover ... 4 seconds movement. 

Looks a lot better with the engine cover, don't see why we should have to buy one though...

[SkOmk4]

14 hours ago, Mario_Delgado said:

And there it is:

You also seem to have a non-stock air-filter-box cover. Was it part of the same 70 Eur deal?

[TheUltraRunner]

1 hour ago, SkOmk4 said:

You also seem to have a non-stock air-filter-box cover. Was it part of the same 70 Eur deal?

It's an aftermarket air intake from Racingline Performance.
https://www.racingline.com/air-intake-r600-r600evo

[Mario_Delgado]

That's it, Racingline air intake with pleated cotton filter + turbo inlet. 

The cover was bought online to a spare parts company in Holland. It came in a very mint condition, more than happy with my purchase. Now that it's known that it works (With its assumptions, btw), you could go to check the availability of the part to any of the VW replacement parts shop if you want to roll with a cover on. Online I see it's available here, more expensive though: https://www.oemvwshop.com/06k103925df-cover-p2291869/

Funny thing is that online that the part is already listed as compatible with Octavia mk4 (NN 2020 -) but the DNPA code is not in the engine spec table … so I assume that the fact of having the oil tap covered means not compatible part. I did a brief check and all engine codes from the table have the oil tap on the exhaust camshaft side. 

 

 

 

[TheUltraRunner]

Thanks for the link Mario.

[Hairy_Joe]

Well, I dropped the VRS TSi down to the dealer for a small job and I came out to find a cover fitted. I had none from new.

 

I tried to pull it up to see part numbers but it's all sponge. There's no hard shell on top to grab. As it's sponge, I tried to pull but it just bent. I chickened out when pulling it....

 

As an aside, I've been told that it's months of back order for the fabric panel that clips onto the underside of the bonnet.

 

 

[Mario_Delgado]

On 03/03/2023 at 17:29, Hairy_Joe said:

Well, I dropped the VRS TSi down to the dealer for a small job and I came out to find a cover fitted. I had none from new.

 

I tried to pull it up to see part numbers but it's all sponge. There's no hard shell on top to grab. As it's sponge, I tried to pull but it just bent. I chickened out when pulling it....

 

As an aside, I've been told that it's months of back order for the fabric panel that clips onto the underside of the bonnet.

 

 

 

Wow ... that's weird. Either they have improved the fixing points and assigned a new reference code for the part or I would bet a finger that's the original part, the one it's intended to be removed ASAP.

[TheUltraRunner]

For all that are interested.

I asked skoda-parts.com about their engine cover which they have in offer for the 2.0 TSI engines.

Their final reply:
"I've dig some more, and the first part was 06Q103925, then 06Q103925K, both are affected and cannot be used. The "L" revision is the one which is current and safe."

Part number 06Q 103 925 L
https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/06q103925l-top-engine-cover-skoda-45757.html

[Tishout]

Not sure if I want to pay €117... 🙄