Edited 9 August, 20241 yr by Ootohere

 

Huge bonnet, spaghetti heat pump pipes under the hood, over engineering, zero usable space.

 

 

Not being liked too much is it. I'll say it again, in my view, cars that try so hard at minimising the number of physical buttons, knobs and switches in a car are really pandering to the younger driver / owners who it seems rather like the touch controls, I don't and it feels far too much concentration is required to operate them and navigate through the menu system/layers, coupled with such blistering acceleration is going to lead to many accidents I feel.

 

When you factor in as well that many countries are banning the interaction with a hand held mobile while the ignition is active because of the accident rates / risk, then the designers of cars like this are not really helping much are they?

Edited 28 January, 20242 yr by Graham Butcher

@Graham ButcherIs not just about everyone younger than you that drives?

 

I do not think Younger Drivers buying Luxury / Premium Cars / EV,s do want less physical buttons. Well not those that also complain about them and have had the likes of VW Group stepping back a bit from the crap they were turning out. 

 

Blistering acceleration is just crap, you can only go as fast as the car in front, or overtake fast and then get up another vehicles back end.

 

Lots of the EV,s are like lots of fast accelerating cars, blinking the TC / ASR because of tyres with poor grip on anything but perfect surfaces, no damp / cold.

 

The reviewers of the Fast and Exciting to be Macan / Mecan show you how fast i am) Electric, talk about how they will handle,  how a Taycan handles.

60 MPH NSL,s on roads with corners in the UK, they live / drive in a parallel universe. 

Edited 28 January, 20242 yr by Rooted

54 minutes ago, Rooted said:

@Graham ButcherIs not just about everyone younger than you that drives?

 

I do not think Younger Drivers buying Luxury / Premium Cars / EV,s do want less physical buttons.

I only said that because usually it is the younger person who is almost joined at the hip to the latest models of smartphones and tablets and therefore more at home with the digital screens and controls that are of the touch type. I personally find that even with my current car which does have some touch controls, that I have noticed that I have to look at what I'm doing in order to correctly operate the correct thing. However, in my earlier Superbs and indeed other cars before them even, I could locate the control I needed without looking and just go by the feel and know that I had the right switch etc, all without compromising safety. 

 

The same is also true, but to a lesser degree, with early mobile phones for instance as they had physical push buttons that were highly tactile and also often had different contours on some of them so it was easy to identify which button does what without needing to look at it, i.e, I used have one of these Nokia phones, fitted in a cradle, hardwired to the car and it was possible to answer calls and hang up without taking eyes of the road because the buttons almost "told" you by their feel what one you needed. The same with vehicle controls, there were no menus to navigate because a switch only had a single function to do.

 

Apparently according to the word on the street, social media, and news media EV sales are dropping, cars are piling up on dealership forecourts, or maybe just in the USA.

Supposedly people are getting rid of EV,s and going back to ICE vehicles.

 

Whatever is going on is going on anyway and if people do not want touch screens, or touch areas with no feed back and Right hand drive and left hand screens so not suit then people buying / leasing their own cars need not have that.   Voice activated rubbish can be a total PITA if it needs talked to in certain ways and even then does not do what is required.

Employees might just have to tell the bosses they don't want that crap either. 

 

Ha, social media is crap especially when it comes down to car brands in the US having nightmare sales of EV cars, they all have some form of hidden agenda that they want to push. It strikes me as a miracle that they have not yet been hauled through the legal system for sprouting pure rubbish, you name them, they have nearly all supposed to have quite EV production and yet are announcing new models???   Voice activation is part of the entertainment system on the Superb and also on the TomTom, neither of those work very well either, so I don't use them. My Alexa indoors does work pretty well, but sometimes it is just rubbish because you need to phrase things just right for it. 😃

Edited 28 January, 20242 yr by Graham Butcher

Latch or lever to open the bonnet or hood regardless of no Frunk likely at the other side, and pull twice, as they do with BMW,s /MINI,s.

(Thomas would know just because not stupid!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 13 February, 20242 yr by Rooted