Bluetooth In Car Kit's

the_ape · 22-10-2003, 16:11

Has anyone got any experience with fitting in car BT kits for phones, I'm looking at getting the Parrot CK3000 (www.driveblue.com), uses standard iso fittings in to the stereo, Will this be ok in the fabia? anyone got any other recomendations? (T610 user)

Cheers

morgan · 22-10-2003, 16:46

I have got this installed (CK3000 & T610).

The install is easy I can give you a few tips. se also do a holder for the phone and an external antenna connection + car charger. I have mounted mine next to the handbrake. which is lucky because when the phone rings at night the light is very bright and if it where in the normal position would be distracting.

Problems so far are-
No one can here me when I call reception is fine and speach coming in is good, but there is a definate problem in my opinion between the T610 and the Parrot. I am waiting for a new microphone to see if that helps but I doubt it will. I think the latest version of software from Parrot which has just been released may help. But my advice would be to wait until I sort this out otherwise a normal kit might be a better way to go.

will keep you posted.
Morgan.

devonutopia · 22-10-2003, 17:03

Dad just forked out a couple of hundred ££ for a siemens mobile (the one off the telly) which was supposed to have bluetooth, but bloody didn't! - Turned out the shop was just bull5hitting to get a sale!

And to think I got my first mobile ever from them as well!

PS: No experience of blue tooth here - I'll only make calls in the car if I'm on the motorway where it's safer than normal roads (i.e no gearchanges), and won't answer in similar circumstances. I only have a 33 series Nokia...

I get so hacked off when I see people texting whilst driving...

Kentish · 22-10-2003, 17:14

I have a Siemans S55 running with the S/E bluetooth kit as I had a S/E T68i previous (which was total rubbish) . Anyway, the phone works fine with the Bluetooth kit, which I fitted myself in my VW Transporter, using the separate external speaker but muteing the radio when used.

I have also just fitted a T610 and S/E Bluetooth kit to another Transporter, and that also works fine.

For me, I would try to match S/E with S/E kits, or any other make and the Parrot.

One thing I will add, Bluetooth isnt perfect. You will get non-pairing of the phone to kit, you will get the kit not ringing when the phone is with you and you are in the car. The only way to resolve this I find is to reboot the phone, and/ or car kit.

I think peoples expectations of Bluetooth are too much in general, however the kits are a doddle to instal, and easy to set up.

the_ape · 22-10-2003, 17:57

The only reason for going for the Parrot one is it uses the cars speakers so no need to find a mounting for another speaker, But I'll wait see if morgan gets his sorted.

Cheers All

Kentish · 22-10-2003, 18:12

The Sony Ericsson kits do too, you just need the wiring module to allow it.

Both kits will do more or less the same, although if memory serves well the Parrot has voice dialing memories in the kit rather than the phone, although expierience of voice dialling when mobile is a very hit and miss affair due to the background noise.

Kentish · 22-10-2003, 18:14

Quote:

Originally posted by morgan in this post
I have got this installed (CK3000 & T610).

The install is easy I can give you a few tips. se also do a holder for the phone and an external antenna connection + car charger. I have mounted mine next to the handbrake. which is lucky because when the phone rings at night the light is very bright and if it where in the normal position would be distracting.

Problems so far are-
No one can here me when I call reception is fine and speach coming in is good, but there is a definate problem in my opinion between the T610 and the Parrot. I am waiting for a new microphone to see if that helps but I doubt it will. I think the latest version of software from Parrot which has just been released may help. But my advice would be to wait until I sort this out otherwise a normal kit might be a better way to go.

will keep you posted.
Morgan.

Just remembered...my bro has the T610 and S/E kit (which I fitted) and he has had the same problem I think its more a Sony Ericsson fault in the phone.

ABZ4x4 · 23-10-2003, 16:55

Hi , I got the Ck3000 and had it fitted

it cost £112 for the kit and £60 to fit

its working very well, with my T68I, TX and RX are good with good sound Quality.

the Voice commands work Fairly well for me even with my Scots "Jimmy" acent !

its a first class kit ( so far )

go for it !

the_ape · 24-10-2003, 16:37

Kewl, will do then....

redbaron · 24-10-2003, 17:12

have t610 and the hs 35 headset .. works great even in the tuscan........

**robmawer** · 24-10-2003, 17:16

Quote:

Originally posted by ffelan in this post
works great even in the tuscan........

Think "great" is pushing it a bit - "satisfactorily audible" would be closer to the mark...

Rob.

***DGW*** · 25-10-2003, 09:06

Quote:

Originally posted by ffelan in this post
have t610 and the hs 35 headset .. works great even in the tuscan........

I am waiting for an S/E T610 from Orange as they have discontinued the Nokia 8310e (my favourite) and don't have any Nokia 6100s (another very nice phone) in stock to replace the one they have just sent me. That has to go back as the phone number and IMEI don't match and the phone therefore cannot be registered. (The number is one Orange are recycling, but they haven't done their homework properly). But back to topic. Is your setup the cheapest way to go Bluetooth for occasional car use, Paul, and are there any other options which don't involve a fixed Bluetooth installation in the vehicle? I would like to be able to use the facility in either car I drive.

(PS. Sorry to have strayed into a forum I don't usually use...

)

redbaron · 25-10-2003, 09:57

Denis,

you can use the headset hbh-35 that i have anywhere.. in car or about the house.. range is about 15m call quality is excellent dropping to good in the tvr. you can get them onlione from about 70quid - i got mine in the orange shop for 90 cos i am impatient.

It charges using the same charger as the phone and gives about 3 hrs talk time.

***DGW*** · 25-10-2003, 10:19

Thanks for that, Paul. The cheapest I have found it is £69.99 all in from Amazon. Is there nothing that store doesn't sell?!

the_ape · 25-10-2003, 22:06

Just one thing you should know, from December the government are making Headset's illegal in cars, now I suppose it would be difficult to stop you on it, but hey dont say I didnt warn you

MonkeyHanger · 25-10-2003, 22:11

Quote:

Originally posted by the_ape in this post
Just one thing you should know, from December the government are making Headset's illegal in cars, now I suppose it would be difficult to stop you on it, but hey dont say I didnt warn you

No they are not.

It will only be illegal if the Phone is hand-held at any time during a call. If it has auto-answer you are ok to use a headset.

the_ape · 26-10-2003, 00:51

Your probably right, but http://www.abd.org.uk/pr/356.htm and http://www.indicator.co.uk/businessm...R_EU041501.htm and Safe Speed (http://www.safespeed.org.uk/phone.html) have a bit on it as well

But hey what do I know, just want a car kit, and it's a good enough excuse to let the other half let me have one

MonkeyHanger · 26-10-2003, 03:11

2 of those pages are at least 5 or 6 months old, and i suspect the safespeed.org.uk one is old too. They pre-date the consultation period by a couple of months IIRC.

A lot of the scare stories have come from suppliers & makers of fitted hands-free systems, for obvious reasons.

By the way, even with the new law in place, you can still be prosecuted if it can be proven that your use of a hands-free phone renders you unable to keep full control of your vehicle.

You can't win

Kentish · 26-10-2003, 10:20

Well thats all fine with me, I am fed up seeing people trying to balance a phone between ear and shoulder and trying to drive and change gear at the same time...and I am quite happy to let them know my dislike with the careful use of my VW outside sounder known as a horn.

And before anyone jumps in to say "how much they need a phone", I am a service engineer, who,s mobile phone provides me with work and a living....but I dont use a mobile in hand when driving, I will just let it ring until it is safe to answer ie parked up.

the_ape · 26-10-2003, 16:22

Agreed, going to be doing large(ish) mileage and getting annoyed with not hearing the stereo proply cause of wearing my BT headset, so gonna get the car kit and be done with it, I'll wear the headset when using the other half's car!

***DGW*** · 26-10-2003, 20:29

This link is the best one I could find summarising the forthcoming new regulations concerning mobile phone use in cars:

http://www.ntu.ac.uk/purchasing/othe...bilePhones.htm

MonkeyHanger · 26-10-2003, 20:39

Quote:

Originally posted by DGW in this post
This link is the best one I could find summarising the forthcoming new regulations concerning mobile phone use in cars:

http://www.ntu.ac.uk/purchasing/othe...bilePhones.htm

Hmmmm

Something that caught my eye from that page

Quote:

To make or receive calls whilst the phone is being held in a cradle (pushing buttons whilst in the cradle, or operation via buttons on a steering wheel would not breach the new regulation).

Now i find it VERY hard to believe that they wouldn't stop you for pushing buttons on a cradle-mounted phone, it would totally defeat the object of the new law.

morgan · 27-10-2003, 15:45

Well I think I've tracked down the crap Tx from the parrott - swapped the microphone and voila all singing and dancing voice controlled telephone. Going all over the south tomorrow M1,25,2 so will be able to give it a good test. Very releived am I

Just need to solve the antenna problem
morgan

the_ape · 27-10-2003, 16:15

What proble do you have with the antenna?

morgan · 27-10-2003, 23:12

see the octavia aerial thread,

The problem is more a question of me wanting to get it right

22-10-2003, 16:11	#1
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bluetooth In Car Kit's Has anyone got any experience with fitting in car BT kits for phones, I'm looking at getting the Parrot CK3000 (www.driveblue.com), uses standard iso fittings in to the stereo, Will this be ok in the fabia? anyone got any other recomendations? (T610 user) Cheers __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

22-10-2003, 16:46	#2
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Members Car: Supurb Elegance- Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have got this installed (CK3000 & T610). The install is easy I can give you a few tips. se also do a holder for the phone and an external antenna connection + car charger. I have mounted mine next to the handbrake. which is lucky because when the phone rings at night the light is very bright and if it where in the normal position would be distracting. Problems so far are- No one can here me when I call reception is fine and speach coming in is good, but there is a definate problem in my opinion between the T610 and the Parrot. I am waiting for a new microphone to see if that helps but I doubt it will. I think the latest version of software from Parrot which has just been released may help. But my advice would be to wait until I sort this out otherwise a normal kit might be a better way to go. will keep you posted. Morgan. __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

22-10-2003, 17:03	#3
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,081 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Dad just forked out a couple of hundred ££ for a siemens mobile (the one off the telly) which was supposed to have bluetooth, but bloody didn't! - Turned out the shop was just bull5hitting to get a sale! And to think I got my first mobile ever from them as well! PS: No experience of blue tooth here - I'll only make calls in the car if I'm on the motorway where it's safer than normal roads (i.e no gearchanges), and won't answer in similar circumstances. I only have a 33 series Nokia... I get so hacked off when I see people texting whilst driving... __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

22-10-2003, 17:14	#4
Kentish Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,244 Members Car: 4 wheels, 4 doors. Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	I have a Siemans S55 running with the S/E bluetooth kit as I had a S/E T68i previous (which was total rubbish) . Anyway, the phone works fine with the Bluetooth kit, which I fitted myself in my VW Transporter, using the separate external speaker but muteing the radio when used. I have also just fitted a T610 and S/E Bluetooth kit to another Transporter, and that also works fine. For me, I would try to match S/E with S/E kits, or any other make and the Parrot. One thing I will add, Bluetooth isnt perfect. You will get non-pairing of the phone to kit, you will get the kit not ringing when the phone is with you and you are in the car. The only way to resolve this I find is to reboot the phone, and/ or car kit. I think peoples expectations of Bluetooth are too much in general, however the kits are a doddle to instal, and easy to set up. __________________ Andy Owner of a sense of humour.

22-10-2003, 17:57	#5
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The only reason for going for the Parrot one is it uses the cars speakers so no need to find a mounting for another speaker, But I'll wait see if morgan gets his sorted. Cheers All __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

22-10-2003, 18:12	#6
Kentish Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,244 Members Car: 4 wheels, 4 doors. Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	The Sony Ericsson kits do too, you just need the wiring module to allow it. Both kits will do more or less the same, although if memory serves well the Parrot has voice dialing memories in the kit rather than the phone, although expierience of voice dialling when mobile is a very hit and miss affair due to the background noise. __________________ Andy Owner of a sense of humour.

23-10-2003, 16:55	#8
ABZ4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 3 Members Car: Octavia 4x4 18 T been seen to Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Working well Hi , I got the Ck3000 and had it fitted it cost £112 for the kit and £60 to fit its working very well, with my T68I, TX and RX are good with good sound Quality. the Voice commands work Fairly well for me even with my Scots "Jimmy" acent ! its a first class kit ( so far ) go for it !

24-10-2003, 16:37	#9
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kewl, will do then.... __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

24-10-2003, 17:12	#10
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,566 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	have t610 and the hs 35 headset .. works great even in the tuscan........ __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

25-10-2003, 09:57	#13
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,566 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Denis, you can use the headset hbh-35 that i have anywhere.. in car or about the house.. range is about 15m call quality is excellent dropping to good in the tvr. you can get them onlione from about 70quid - i got mine in the orange shop for 90 cos i am impatient. It charges using the same charger as the phone and gives about 3 hrs talk time. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

25-10-2003, 10:19	#14
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,299 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 207 Times in 156 Posts	Thanks for that, Paul. The cheapest I have found it is £69.99 all in from Amazon. Is there nothing that store doesn't sell?! __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

25-10-2003, 22:06	#15
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just one thing you should know, from December the government are making Headset's illegal in cars, now I suppose it would be difficult to stop you on it, but hey dont say I didnt warn you __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

26-10-2003, 00:51	#17
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Your probably right, but http://www.abd.org.uk/pr/356.htm and http://www.indicator.co.uk/businessm...R_EU041501.htm and Safe Speed (http://www.safespeed.org.uk/phone.html) have a bit on it as well But hey what do I know, just want a car kit, and it's a good enough excuse to let the other half let me have one __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

26-10-2003, 03:11	#18
MonkeyHanger Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,779 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2 of those pages are at least 5 or 6 months old, and i suspect the safespeed.org.uk one is old too. They pre-date the consultation period by a couple of months IIRC. A lot of the scare stories have come from suppliers & makers of fitted hands-free systems, for obvious reasons. By the way, even with the new law in place, you can still be prosecuted if it can be proven that your use of a hands-free phone renders you unable to keep full control of your vehicle. You can't win

26-10-2003, 10:20	#19
Kentish Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,244 Members Car: 4 wheels, 4 doors. Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Well thats all fine with me, I am fed up seeing people trying to balance a phone between ear and shoulder and trying to drive and change gear at the same time...and I am quite happy to let them know my dislike with the careful use of my VW outside sounder known as a horn. And before anyone jumps in to say "how much they need a phone", I am a service engineer, who,s mobile phone provides me with work and a living....but I dont use a mobile in hand when driving, I will just let it ring until it is safe to answer ie parked up. __________________ Andy Owner of a sense of humour.

26-10-2003, 16:22	#20
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Agreed, going to be doing large(ish) mileage and getting annoyed with not hearing the stereo proply cause of wearing my BT headset, so gonna get the car kit and be done with it, I'll wear the headset when using the other half's car! __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

26-10-2003, 20:29	#21
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,299 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 207 Times in 156 Posts	This link is the best one I could find summarising the forthcoming new regulations concerning mobile phone use in cars: http://www.ntu.ac.uk/purchasing/othe...bilePhones.htm __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

27-10-2003, 15:45	#23
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Members Car: Supurb Elegance- Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well I think I've tracked down the crap Tx from the parrott - swapped the microphone and voila all singing and dancing voice controlled telephone. Going all over the south tomorrow M1,25,2 so will be able to give it a good test. Very releived am I Just need to solve the antenna problem morgan __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

27-10-2003, 16:15	#24
the_ape Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Warwickshire, Midlands Posts: 221 Members Car: Fabia vRS / MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (import) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What proble do you have with the antenna? __________________ Ashleigh Skoda Octavia PD140 L&K DSG Estate Skoda Fabia 1.9 PD 130 vRS MR2 AW11 SuperCharger (Now with added water injection!) MR2 AW11 N/A (Project Car, soon to be a 4AGE 20valve 4 cyl) MR2 AW11 N/A SR UK Model. My B Car My Blogsite My F1 Blogsite Feel free to add me to your list, just mention where your from

27-10-2003, 23:12	#25
morgan Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: motorsport valley Posts: 85 Members Car: Supurb Elegance- Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	see the octavia aerial thread, The problem is more a question of me wanting to get it right __________________ Superb Elegance 1.9TDi Full Leather, Sat-Nav, Xenons, Yes it does do 50mpg, no it doesn't go round corners, yes it's got more leg room than a Maybach.

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