The magic smoke escaped

Dr Zoidberg · 25-11-2005, 10:12

On the way to work this morning I was listening to a very bass heavy album at very high volumes.

I'd nearly arrived when I suddenly lost all bass. I turned off the stereo and when I got there I opened the boot to a burning smell.

Drifting out of the port on the subwoofer was the magic smoke that makes it work.

Time to go shopping tomorrow I think

Never toasted a sub before!

**robmawer** · 25-11-2005, 10:14

Bug**r!

Rob.

Dr Zoidberg · 25-11-2005, 10:17

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Originally Posted by robmawer

Bug**r!

Rob.

Yup , the coil appears to have melted completely

TKW · 25-11-2005, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Dr zoidberg

magic smoke that makes it work.

A fellow believer

Sorry to hear of its demise though

**robmawer** · 25-11-2005, 10:32

Take it repair would likely be more pricey than a new one?

Rob.

Goochie · 25-11-2005, 10:34

Magic smoke?

Dr Zoidberg · 25-11-2005, 10:36

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Originally Posted by robmawer

Take it repair would likely be more pricey than a new one?

It's a 10" JBL sub in a proper JBL ported box.

I should just be able to drop in a new speaker so it shouldn't cost too much.

Dr Zoidberg · 25-11-2005, 10:37

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Originally Posted by Goochie

Magic smoke?

Yup , whenever anything electrical dies there is always a little puff of smoke that escapes. This is the magic smoke that makes it work , because once thats escaped it's no good any more

WW_VRS · 25-11-2005, 10:40

depends if you can buy the speaker itself cheaper than the whole sub (i.e. the enclosure).

Might be pushed for luck though

**robmawer** · 25-11-2005, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Goochie

Magic smoke?

'tis a common myth that electricity works by flow of energy through electrons and protons...but actually that's not the case.
Copper "wiring" and the like is actually tiny tiny pipes, through which magic smoke is passed to make lights flash and noises occur. As Dr Z says, when the system breaks, this smoke is released, hence it stops working.

And there ends today's physics lesson.

Rob.

**mannyo** · 25-11-2005, 10:44

There must be an underlying cause for the sub failure. Before spending money on a new speaker I would check everything over as it may happen again. The most likely cause is the amp clipping and not sending a clean signal to the speaker. The remedy for this is obvious, you need an amp that has a higher rating.

Dr Zoidberg · 25-11-2005, 10:48

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Originally Posted by mannyo

There must be an underlying cause for the sub failure. Before spending money on a new speaker I would check everything over as it may happen again. The most likely cause is the amp clipping and not sending a clean signal to the speaker. The remedy for this is obvious, you need an amp that has a higher rating.

Nope , 800W amp driving a less powerful sub flat out on some very bass heavy tracks for 40 minutes.

Jat · 25-11-2005, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by robmawer

Take it repair would likely be more pricey than a new one?

Rob.

speakers are non-servicable. When the voice coil goes, you're effectively buggered..get the credit card out!!

Johnnyc · 25-11-2005, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Jat

speakers are non-servicable. When the voice coil goes, you're effectively buggered..get the credit card out!!

You could replace the driver but make sure you get a like for like replacement as the box is designed taking the characteristics of the speaker into account. The wrong driver may sound poo.

Rooster · 29-11-2005, 00:08

Just out of interest, what was the album you were listening to?

Not sure whether i'm asking 'cos I want to buy it, or avoid it

Dr Zoidberg · 29-11-2005, 08:38

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Just out of interest, what was the album you were listening to?

Not sure whether i'm asking 'cos I want to buy it, or avoid it

Affirmation by Savage Garden

Johnnyc · 29-11-2005, 09:36

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Originally Posted by Dr zoidberg

Affirmation by Savage Garden

Savage Garden! You got all you deserved

Joel_vRS · 29-11-2005, 13:28

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Originally Posted by Dr zoidberg

Nope , 800W amp driving a less powerful sub flat out on some very bass heavy tracks for 40 minutes.

yes that would do it on a low end jbl 10" sub lmao

Joel

devonutopia · 29-11-2005, 13:38

Sounds like someone needs a JL 10w6

I meant 10w7.

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/prod...60ea0e24ea9403

800w (assume thats RMS?

) would certainately kill a JBL given some stick.

Savage Garden are OK anyway - Better than most R&B/rap rubbish out there.

spinndrift · 29-11-2005, 13:56

I thought the magic smoke came from the magic cigarette that the monkey was smoking that makes the noise in your sub, works the automatic choke, and the magic windows.

Dr Zoidberg · 29-11-2005, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel_vRS

yes that would do it on a low end jbl 10" sub lmao

Joel

Yup , it did

Dr Zoidberg · 29-11-2005, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Sounds like someone needs a JL 10w6

I meant 10w7.

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/prod...60ea0e24ea9403

800w (assume thats RMS?

) would certainately kill a JBL given some stick.

Savage Garden are OK anyway - Better than most R&B/rap rubbish out there.

Nope , 800w peak I assume.
It's the third of MonkeyBoy's kenwood amps that you had two of.

As for the JL , I don't think I shall be spending quite that much.

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