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Old 13-06-2007, 00:40   #26
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Kit the Gards will go after cars that are stolen if they are tracked once its by a Nsai Approved Control room and installer and the Car has a completion Cert, they cant track it them self but they are guided by the Control Room to the Car. i know AxA etc dont care if ur car is tracked if its less then 100k i think that is so Stupied but at least u can have ur car recoverd and not take a cash loss. trackers now such as the lommy system are accurate to 15 feet. thats not bad for civilan Gps ur not gona lose ur car in 15ft.
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the chances of them kicking your door in and coming upstairs for you keys are a bit remote !!...unless you have a car worth over a hundred grand!!.......not a twenty grand skoda!!.....the risk is too great for such a low return!!.....tracker is pointless here as the police have limited equipment, unlike the uk where most forces have several cars fitted with the recievers!!.....plus there is no insurance discount for having one fitted here!!

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i Think i might have PM'd u on this ages ago. Ill get the info for all,
I think you did but I can't find it
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rob were talking about ireland here.......its very rare that somebody will kick your door in and come upstairs looking for your keys here!....unless you have a very exspensive car!.......razor.....as for the gards going after cars that have a tracker on.....it must depend on the car and which force it is as my landlord is a traffic corp seargent and he says thay wont and so do the 4 traffic cops who live next door to me!......sounds like its a typical irish thing!!.....amnt saying that they deffiniatly dont but just saying what the gards have told me!!

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rob were talking about ireland here.......its very rare that somebody will kick your door in and come upstairs looking for your keys here!....unless you have a very exspensive car!.......razor.....as for the gards going after cars that have a tracker on.....it must depend on the car and which force it is as my landlord is a traffic corp seargent and he says thay wont and so do the 4 traffic cops who live next door to me!......sounds like its a typical irish thing!!.....amnt saying that they deffiniatly dont but just saying what the gards have told me!!

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Kit I know of 3 owners (who I've spoke to) that have had people come into the house looking for keys, and got all three (2 out of them had them return twice for the car again, the other traded it). I heard of another person that traded the car in because of it aswell. One of the other guys on here had traffic mates warn him that the mk1 vRS what a target at the time.

If there doing a job, and less face it these boys are well prepares, they don't want to stand out so the RS is ideal, btw might be worth getting a Yellow one next time...might put them off
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but what im saying is that have they come to the house and kicked in the door and and shoved a shooter in their face?.....which as we know is rare!!....or have the come and broken into the house?......im no way disputing that cars are taken by break ins......as you know it happend to me!!......as i said before you might awel just leave your car unlocked!!

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yea i agree kit......but the gards do go after the tracked car's.
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but thats also what im saying!!......it must a typical irish way of things!!....when ive asked they so no they wont track stolen cars fitted with trackers!!!.....but you say they do!!......if ive was having one fitted i would want to know for sure before i spent my cash!!......could it just be down to the force concerned? or the area concerned?

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yea it could be traffic wont do it, its always been normal garda cars that have gone after them for us...i think they wont go if say u ur self rings them,but if a Monitoring station does they take it as for real, iv dont i 5 times and each time the car has been recoverd but you are right kit its the normal irish Gray area....
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rob were talking about ireland here.......its very rare that somebody will kick your door in and come upstairs looking for your keys here!....unless you have a very exspensive car!.......razor.....as for the gards going after cars that have a tracker on.....it must depend on the car and which force it is as my landlord is a traffic corp seargent and he says thay wont and so do the 4 traffic cops who live next door to me!......sounds like its a typical irish thing!!.....amnt saying that they deffiniatly dont but just saying what the gards have told me!!

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they mostly sneak into your up here and take the keys if you have left them downstairs.. called sleeper burglaries.
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yeh thats exactly what im saying!!.....very common here aswell!!......but the door kicking in and shotgun shoved in your face for a skoda is extremely rare!!.

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Kit the Gards will go after cars that are stolen if they are tracked once its by a Nsai Approved Control room and installer and the Car has a completion Cert, they cant track it them self but they are guided by the Control Room to the Car. trackers now such as the lommy system are accurate to 15 feet. thats not bad for civilan Gps ur not gona lose ur car in 15ft.
If the police don't have the tracking equipment in their cars then this is a likely alternative to finding a stolen car. It's very rare for this method to be used in England & Wales. If the cops do have tracking equipment then they can track the stolen vehicle themselves using the on board equipment in their cars.

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yea it could be traffic wont do it, its always been normal garda cars that have gone after them for us...i think they wont go if say u ur self rings them,but if a Monitoring station does they take it as for real, iv dont i 5 times and each time the car has been recoverd but you are right kit its the normal irish Gray area....
The owner of the car must ring the tracking company as soon as they are aware that the car is stolen. The tracking company will then activate the tracker fitted to the car which 'broadcasts' a unique code via GPS which the police tracker units will display in their cars if they are in range. It's pointless ringing the police before ringing the tracking company as the owner is the only person who can authorise the tracker to be activated. The tracking company will immediately contact the police with the activation code and they will tell nearby patrols.

The units in the police cars will then give a directional arrow and a signal strenth and display the unique code for that activation. The latest systems are quite accurate and work a lot better than the older systems. the only drawback is that in built up areas, sometimes the activation code broadcast by the stolen vehicle can 'bounce' off tall buildings, confusing the direction sensor in the police cars.
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Re: Irish Mk2 vRS being targeted by Thieves

A few points on this (I know I'm mainland UK, but bear with me... )

I've had trackers fitted to my last two cars. Neither time has there been a flashing LED or even a window sticker to show it's fitted, as apparently if the car's that attractive to thieves, they'll nick it anyway and then rip up the inside of the car to try and find the tracker.

I've never been with an insurance company that's offered a discount for either car. Some do, but they seem to be more expensive anyway. I've had them fitted all the same 'cos what they cost is less than what I'd lose in excess if the car was/is stolen.

As trackers become more and more common, the trick seems to be to nick the car, then leave it somewhere innocuous like a car park or residential street for a few days to see if it has a tracker and thus gets towed. This is actually quite good news if a tracker is fitted, as it means there's a fair chance that if you find out it's gone within a reasonably short period of time, you'll get it back in a just-nicked condition, rather than ragged to hell...

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As trackers become more and more common, the trick seems to be to nick the car, then leave it somewhere innocuous like a car park or residential street for a few days to see if it has a tracker and thus gets towed. This is actually quite good news if a tracker is fitted, as it means there's a fair chance that if you find out it's gone within a reasonably short period of time, you'll get it back in a just-nicked condition, rather than ragged to hell...

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Good point. Theives will usually nick a low rent older car which they don't mind abusing if involved in a police pursuit, then use this to travel round and often burgle 6 or 7 houses in a night for car keys. They'll park their spoils up like ap0gee says in pub carparks etc then return a couple of days later to reap the rewards. It also gives them time to steal registration plates from similar looking cars to stick on when they come to collect them. that way they wont show up as stolen if checked out by cops / ANPR cameras.
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The tracking company will then activate the tracker fitted to the car which 'broadcasts' a unique code via GPS which the police tracker units will display in their cars if they are in range.
Does the tracker be active the whole time...i.e. so I could see its location, but a different activation for theft ?
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God the police in england are alot more together then over here,we have to Direct them by Voice......it can get a bit black Hawk Down like,

Pitt does the Tracker run through GSM????and its a case of dialing in and Leting it go active???
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Does the tracker be active the whole time...i.e. so I could see its location, but a different activation for theft ?
The original Trademarked Tracker system doesn't stay active all the time, although there are sytems available which you can monitor from your home PC and even GPS enhanced mobile phones. There is a system available (Don't know what it's called) that includes the facility to kill the engine of your car via your mobile phone if your car's stolen!

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God the police in england are alot more together then over here,we have to Direct them by Voice......it can get a bit black Hawk Down like,

Pitt does the Tracker run through GSM????and its a case of dialing in and Leting it go active???
I've just checked the Tracker website. Apparently there are 4 grades of cover. the bottom two work by the tracker unit fitted to the customer's vehicle emitting a VHF radio signal ( not GPS) which the police can pick up.

The top two packages also include GPS capability whereby the position of the car can be monitored by the company. The police Tracker receivers can only pick up the radio signals emitted from the stolen vehicles. It's not really clear how the activation occurs, whether the monotoring station activates it by radio or GSM.
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ah if thats the case it would be GSM, R/T is to hit and miss, new trackers we use now work of SMS systems very fast and very relieable, but the cost alot,there more for Commercal targets.Radio is to risky and is out dated now.

Theres a service like one u mentioned,about killing the Engine, its done By RMV track, you can listen in on the car to but is live tracking is limited,u have to fetch the Grid number from the unit.
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It's not really clear how the activation occurs, whether the monotoring station activates it by radio or GSM.
AFAIK, the tracker is in a standby state all the time, and goes active if the car moves without the key. Once it goes active, the monitoring station contacts the owner to make sure it isn't just being towed (legitimately) or something, and if not, alerts the police. If the car is stolen WITH the keys, the owner can contact the monitoring station, who can then activate the device remotely.
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