2.0 170 TDi tuning options

stilgar · 03-07-2008, 18:35

I searched but couldn't find the info that i want so here it goes :
As far as I understand the limit of performance tuning the vrs tdi in actually the DPF.
Now, what can you do to it except getting a remap? Isn't it possible to remove the DPF or are there some problems with the MOT and stuff like that ?

SCVRS · 03-07-2008, 18:37

I don't think that it is possible to remove or bypass the DPF.

A remap on the pd170 will produce figures around 200-210 bhp and torque of 310-330 lb/ft (based on reported REVO figures)

A remap is pretty lively on a standard car!!

**VRStu** · 03-07-2008, 18:38

The DPF has some sensors which report back to the ECU so to remove the DPF would give you additional headaches.

stilgar · 03-07-2008, 18:43

Well i thought there would be problems with the ECU but i did see other cars with DPF removals...
So until now, the only performance mod available for this engine is a remap.
How about the CR 170 ? Will the engine's capabilites be limited by the dpf again ?

**VRStu** · 03-07-2008, 18:47

Very possibly.

It's a fact that I think you'll have to come to terms with.

It may be possible to go for a more severe route such as bigger turbo etc with a custom map but IMHO it wouldn't really be worth it.

Get yourself a Bluefin and make do or buy a different car.

stilgar · 03-07-2008, 19:18

Well, the car is great as it is, but I was just thinking.
BTW, I did see an exhaust made by milltek which (they say) removes the DPF..nothing mentioned about the ECU. Thx for the info

.

Later edit: I found a forum and a bloke there had his leon fr tdi custom remapped and fitted a dpf-free exhaust.The car was running 235bhp and 480nm...so..i guess it is possible

the estimated price for all this was about 3k euros.

SCVRS · 04-07-2008, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Very possibly.

It's a fact that I think you'll have to come to terms with.

It may be possible to go for a more severe route such as bigger turbo etc with a custom map but IMHO it wouldn't really be worth it.

Get yourself a Bluefin and make do or buy a different car.

I agree with Stu, this should be enough to put a smile on your face!!!!! Plus you get a 7 day refund policy with the Bluefin remap! If you don't like it, send it back! Or a 30 day refund policy with REVO. REVO is more expensive though (but SOOOOOOOOOOOO much fun!)

**VRStu** · 04-07-2008, 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by stilgar

Well, the car is great as it is, but I was just thinking.
BTW, I did see an exhaust made by milltek which (they say) removes the DPF..nothing mentioned about the ECU. Thx for the info

.

Later edit: I found a forum and a bloke there had his leon fr tdi custom remapped and fitted a dpf-free exhaust.The car was running 235bhp and 480nm...so..i guess it is possible

the estimated price for all this was about 3k euros.

I am entirely sure that it is possible to remove the DPF but it just depends on the lengths you are willing to go to on a fairly new car with some manufacturer's wty left.

_ZS_ · 05-07-2008, 14:38

Figures in my signature are for a pretty agressive map on a pretty much mechanically standard 1.9 commonrail. Only mechanical mod is the precat removed, main cat remains.

VAG's commonrail will probably be pretty similar in standard mechanical trim. Bigger intercooler, exhaust, etc should see about 230hp I'd recon.

rs939 · 05-07-2008, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by stilgar

Well, the car is great as it is, but I was just thinking.
BTW, I did see an exhaust made by milltek which (they say) removes the DPF..nothing mentioned about the ECU. Thx for the info

.

Later edit: I found a forum and a bloke there had his leon fr tdi custom remapped and fitted a dpf-free exhaust.The car was running 235bhp and 480nm...so..i guess it is possible

the estimated price for all this was about 3k euros.

Hmm, I think someone has been telling pokie pies on the dyno

We have the bluefin on the VRS 170 and its 205/310Lbs ft (On a dyno Dynamics) but feels great on the road.

stilgar · 05-07-2008, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by rs939

Hmm, I think someone has been telling pokie pies on the dyno

We have the bluefin on the VRS 170 and its 205/310Lbs ft (On a dyno Dynamics) but feels great on the road.

The bloke didn't only have a remap...I don't know exactly what mods he had on the car but I do know he had a DPF-free exhaust.Well I know it isn't worth it but I find it amazing how a 2litre diesel engine can put out so much power and torque...

inexeng · 06-07-2008, 09:46

Just noticed
On the Skoda website :-
The last "octavia_brochure.pdf" upto june30 when the vRS diesel was PD170
it mentioned the DPF as standard

But now look at the new "octavia_brochure.pdf" the vRS TDi is now CR170

No mention of the DPF has it been dropped ?

hope so

dan_the_v8man · 06-07-2008, 16:17

DPF's are here to stay to meet euro cats

03-07-2008, 18:35	#1
stilgar Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2.0 170 TDi tuning options I searched but couldn't find the info that i want so here it goes : As far as I understand the limit of performance tuning the vrs tdi in actually the DPF. Now, what can you do to it except getting a remap? Isn't it possible to remove the DPF or are there some problems with the MOT and stuff like that ?

03-07-2008, 18:37	#2
SCVRS Legend!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 489 Thanks: 40 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options I don't think that it is possible to remove or bypass the DPF. A remap on the pd170 will produce figures around 200-210 bhp and torque of 310-330 lb/ft (based on reported REVO figures) A remap is pretty lively on a standard car!! __________________ Silver Mk1 Octavia vRS with Green Panel Filter (brrrrrrrrrrroooom TSSSCH!) & Silver Mk2 Octavia vRS TDi pd170 (dagadagadagadaga) Playstation 3 network id : SCVRS

03-07-2008, 18:38	#3
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,457 Thanks: 125 Thanked 926 Times in 830 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options The DPF has some sensors which report back to the ECU so to remove the DPF would give you additional headaches. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Buy My Octy for £11k - http://briskoda.net/skodas-sale/oct-07-57-octy-ii-vrs-hatch-2-0-tfsi-11k/125614/ Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

03-07-2008, 18:43	#4
stilgar Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options Well i thought there would be problems with the ECU but i did see other cars with DPF removals... So until now, the only performance mod available for this engine is a remap. How about the CR 170 ? Will the engine's capabilites be limited by the dpf again ?

03-07-2008, 18:47	#5
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,457 Thanks: 125 Thanked 926 Times in 830 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options Very possibly. It's a fact that I think you'll have to come to terms with. It may be possible to go for a more severe route such as bigger turbo etc with a custom map but IMHO it wouldn't really be worth it. Get yourself a Bluefin and make do or buy a different car. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Buy My Octy for £11k - http://briskoda.net/skodas-sale/oct-07-57-octy-ii-vrs-hatch-2-0-tfsi-11k/125614/ Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

03-07-2008, 19:18	#6
stilgar Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options Well, the car is great as it is, but I was just thinking. BTW, I did see an exhaust made by milltek which (they say) removes the DPF..nothing mentioned about the ECU. Thx for the info . Later edit: I found a forum and a bloke there had his leon fr tdi custom remapped and fitted a dpf-free exhaust.The car was running 235bhp and 480nm...so..i guess it is possible the estimated price for all this was about 3k euros. Last edited by stilgar; 03-07-2008 at 19:53.

05-07-2008, 14:38	#9
_ZS_ Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dundonald, nr Belfast Posts: 161 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options Figures in my signature are for a pretty agressive map on a pretty much mechanically standard 1.9 commonrail. Only mechanical mod is the precat removed, main cat remains. VAG's commonrail will probably be pretty similar in standard mechanical trim. Bigger intercooler, exhaust, etc should see about 230hp I'd recon. __________________ 2008 Vauxhall Vectra SRi 1.8VVT, 140hp of pure tarmac ripping power. Vectra owner and driver by night, Octavia driver by day...

06-07-2008, 09:46	#12
inexeng Lost My Name Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Earlham Posts: 243 Thanks: 14 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options Just noticed On the Skoda website :- The last "octavia_brochure.pdf" upto june30 when the vRS diesel was PD170 it mentioned the DPF as standard But now look at the new "octavia_brochure.pdf" the vRS TDi is now CR170 No mention of the DPF has it been dropped ? hope so __________________ 08Octy VRS CR TDi hatch in Corrida Red Cruise Control, Rear Parking Sensors, MaxiDot, Jumbo Box Pack, 18" Alloys, Xenons, Brisky sticker Gone - Black 06 Octy II 2.0 TDI Elegance Gone - Green 02 Octy I 1.9 TDI Estate

06-07-2008, 16:17	#13
dan_the_v8man Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sheffield Posts: 341 Thanks: 15 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: 2.0 170 TDi tuning options DPF's are here to stay to meet euro cats __________________ 57 Mk2 2.0TFSI vRS Estate in Race Blue, jumbo box, cruise control, dual zone climate, zenith 18", maxidot, xenon's, rear parking sensors, light assistance, sunset glass

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