Dragon Box..... What's yours on???

WaveyDavey · 08-09-2007, 11:04

Just being inquisitive really as i've just got mine fitted on the car last night..... I've tried it on jumper settings 4 thro 7 and found that for my car the best output seems to come from jumper link 5. Just seemed to give that little extra power than the other positions and definately seemed smoother through the rev range.

So yeah, which jumper position are people running on???

Cheers

Dave.

dstev2000 · 08-09-2007, 11:25

Many moons ago when I had one fitted to my Octavia I had it on about 4 or 5, less than that and it didn't make much difference and on max setting it smoked like no tomorrow but it didn't half shift!.

On setting 5 it was a match for my bosses old Audi A6 2.7TDI (cicra 180BHP, take into account weight etc) because he couldn't get away from me on the A5

And I wont even mention the top end on the M6 Toll road................

ric04vrs · 08-09-2007, 12:19

i thought there were more settings than that

mines got 16 different permutations , but is currently in the standard position it came with , which is 11

digitaldwarf · 08-09-2007, 16:26

i also have mine set to 11 but i havent played with it yet

i'll wait untill i get my full miltek fitted first

dstev2000 · 08-09-2007, 21:31

Depends on the model of box, some have 7, some have loads and some have a screw to adjust the spicyness (mainly the CR units).

The very latest boxes self calibrate when connected to the engine and have this selection:

1 = -30% (Rubbish)
2 = -20%
3 = -10%
4 = Standard (power & economy)
5 = +10%
6 = +20%
7 = +30% (POWERRRRRRRRR)

They've come on a pace since I had one

SkodaMart · 08-09-2007, 21:35

Sorry to sound ignorant, but whats a Dragon box?

dstev2000 · 09-09-2007, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodaMart

Sorry to sound ignorant, but whats a Dragon box?

Diesel Tuning by Dragon Performance UK more diesel performance power and torque

ChrisRs · 11-09-2007, 07:10

Just go for 7 and stop being a 'wuss'

ScoobyChris · 11-09-2007, 08:40

Mine was running on max - why would you want anything less?

The latest boxes come with a MAP on a USB stick which is either tailored to economy or performance or "performance and economy" so really the jumper settings shouldn't make that much difference. If they do, that would suggest the MAPs aren't really tuned at all!

Chris

ap0gee · 11-09-2007, 08:44

6, but with a PD160 intake in an attempt to control the soot

(New filter going in in a few days too, which should help...!

)

WaveyDavey · 11-09-2007, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRs

Just go for 7 and stop being a 'wuss'

I moved it up to jumper 7 whilst on my night shift on Sunday night / Monday morning and went for a couple of drives around Doncaster at around 3am to give it a test......... It's stayed on jumper 7 now!!!!!

I've already got the PD160 intake and Green filter so their isn't too much extra clag coming out the back to be honest.

The mrs is out in my car now and is going to report back on what she thinks of it before getting one for the other car.

Sooooooooooooo............... I voted originally as option 5 but now am running as option 7.

Cheers

Dave.

ChrisRs · 11-09-2007, 18:49

I take it all back Dave.
Ps. Does the Mrs want an AmD Tuning module??
(Much less smoke)

*tim* · 11-09-2007, 19:05

[offtopic]

Chris how much are you willing to sell your OneClick for? Is it for a Fab vRS? PM me

[ontopic]

as you were

Mattcooper79 · 19-07-2008, 22:12

I am playing with settings at the moment so far i have tried setting 11 and 14. Small amounts of smoke when booting it at setting 14. Particularly in 6th gear.

Think i will turn it down to 12/13 and leave it for a while and see what happens.

I have had both the 16 setting and 7 setting dragon boxes and so far hte older 16 is much better. No pause at all at 1800-2000K like the 7 pin suffered badly

Matt

ultra_joel88 · 19-07-2008, 22:27

with regards to the 16 setting box, is it exactly the same as the 7pin but has 16 jumpers inside rather than 7?

is the dreaded "stutter" of the 7 pin gone then matt? the one at around 1800rpm that we talked about?

Mattcooper79 · 19-07-2008, 23:31

Well i have been running this box for about a week or so and its very different to the delivery that i had on the previous 7 pin box i had.

in fact the the person who bought my 7 pin box off me is now selling it on ebay at the moment. £170 (buy it now price).

It seems to be much more progressive with the torque coming in at 2500 and being held till 4K. I really thought that the box wasnt working to start with because the pause just wasnt there. Its strange because this box seems much more drivable in 'normal' driving conditions.

ultra_joel88 · 20-07-2008, 10:26

the one ebay is apparantly a 16 pin version?

Dragon Performance tuning system for Skoda Fabia VRS on eBay, also Chips, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 23-Jul-08 18:52:13 BST)

ultra_joel88 · 20-07-2008, 11:16

Looking around it seems dragon could have gone bust...

eBay shop empty

last feedback was negative

online shop not working

either that or they are undergoing a major overhaul

ultra_joel88 · 20-07-2008, 16:29

I put mine back on today as the car was feeling sluggish lol

It seems a fair bit quicker now, but unfortunatly the small stutter still exists.

Could someone tell me what the LED's should be doing?

My red LED is never lit, the green is constant when the engine is off, and it flashes when it is on

Mattcooper79 · 20-07-2008, 16:29

the one ebay is apparantly a 16 pin version?

Dragon Performance tuning system for Skoda Fabia VRS on eBay, also Chips, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 23-Jul-08 18:52:13 BST)

Maybe it is then but i thought the 16 pin boxes were different to that one. Def the person i sold my box to and it even has the cable tie i put on the box next to the fuse still there.????

View Poll Results: What jumper position are you running you Dragon tuning box on?
Jumper 1 (Economy)	0	0%
Jumper 2	0	0%
Jumper 3	0	0%
Jumper 4 (Economy / Power default setting)	2	16.67%
Jumper 5	2	16.67%
Jumper 6	2	16.67%
Jumper 7 (Power)	2	16.67%
What!!!! You mean i can change the settings myself!!!	4	33.33%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

08-09-2007, 11:04	#1
WaveyDavey Hiya Vic!!! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, South Yorkshire Posts: 2,161 Thanks: 106 Thanked 78 Times in 75 Posts	Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Just being inquisitive really as i've just got mine fitted on the car last night..... I've tried it on jumper settings 4 thro 7 and found that for my car the best output seems to come from jumper link 5. Just seemed to give that little extra power than the other positions and definately seemed smoother through the rev range. So yeah, which jumper position are people running on??? Cheers Dave. __________________ 2006 'Black Magic' Fabia vRS... With a few little EXTRAS

08-09-2007, 11:25	#2
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 3,849 Thanks: 39 Thanked 153 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Many moons ago when I had one fitted to my Octavia I had it on about 4 or 5, less than that and it didn't make much difference and on max setting it smoked like no tomorrow but it didn't half shift!. On setting 5 it was a match for my bosses old Audi A6 2.7TDI (cicra 180BHP, take into account weight etc) because he couldn't get away from me on the A5 And I wont even mention the top end on the M6 Toll road................ __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

08-09-2007, 12:19	#3
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,106 Thanks: 29 Thanked 177 Times in 172 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? i thought there were more settings than that mines got 16 different permutations , but is currently in the standard position it came with , which is 11 __________________ not so bored now

08-09-2007, 16:26	#4
digitaldwarf QRP Sucks Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: falkirk Posts: 196 Thanks: 10 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? i also have mine set to 11 but i havent played with it yet i'll wait untill i get my full miltek fitted first __________________ I'M FAT FOLICALY CHALANGED FORTY-SOMETHING FIFTEEN STONE BLOKE CALLED NEIL

08-09-2007, 21:31	#5
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 3,849 Thanks: 39 Thanked 153 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Depends on the model of box, some have 7, some have loads and some have a screw to adjust the spicyness (mainly the CR units). The very latest boxes self calibrate when connected to the engine and have this selection: 1 = -30% (Rubbish) 2 = -20% 3 = -10% 4 = Standard (power & economy) 5 = +10% 6 = +20% 7 = +30% (POWERRRRRRRRR) They've come on a pace since I had one __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

08-09-2007, 21:35	#6
SkodaMart Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tameside Posts: 216 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Sorry to sound ignorant, but whats a Dragon box?

11-09-2007, 07:10	#8
ChrisRs Skonda Fabic Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,979 Thanks: 17 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Just go for 7 and stop being a 'wuss'

11-09-2007, 08:40	#9
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,127 Thanks: 15 Thanked 327 Times in 285 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Mine was running on max - why would you want anything less? The latest boxes come with a MAP on a USB stick which is either tailored to economy or performance or "performance and economy" so really the jumper settings shouldn't make that much difference. If they do, that would suggest the MAPs aren't really tuned at all! Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

11-09-2007, 08:44	#10
ap0gee ASZ Eternal Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Leafy Chesh-shire Posts: 6,520 Thanks: 322 Thanked 315 Times in 271 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? 6, but with a PD160 intake in an attempt to control the soot (New filter going in in a few days too, which should help...! ) __________________

11-09-2007, 18:49	#12
ChrisRs Skonda Fabic Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,979 Thanks: 17 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? I take it all back Dave. Ps. Does the Mrs want an AmD Tuning module?? (Much less smoke)

11-09-2007, 19:05	#13
tim Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Still in Suffolk Posts: 839 Thanks: 22 Thanked 33 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? [offtopic] Chris how much are you willing to sell your OneClick for? Is it for a Fab vRS? PM me [ontopic] as you were

19-07-2008, 22:12	#14
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? I am playing with settings at the moment so far i have tried setting 11 and 14. Small amounts of smoke when booting it at setting 14. Particularly in 6th gear. Think i will turn it down to 12/13 and leave it for a while and see what happens. I have had both the 16 setting and 7 setting dragon boxes and so far hte older 16 is much better. No pause at all at 1800-2000K like the 7 pin suffered badly Matt __________________ Black Fabia Vrs, PD160 air intake, Pipercross filter, Aero Wipers, Phillips 80% extra bulbs

19-07-2008, 22:27	#15
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,275 Thanks: 21 Thanked 82 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? with regards to the 16 setting box, is it exactly the same as the 7pin but has 16 jumpers inside rather than 7? is the dreaded "stutter" of the 7 pin gone then matt? the one at around 1800rpm that we talked about? __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

19-07-2008, 23:31	#16
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Well i have been running this box for about a week or so and its very different to the delivery that i had on the previous 7 pin box i had. in fact the the person who bought my 7 pin box off me is now selling it on ebay at the moment. £170 (buy it now price). It seems to be much more progressive with the torque coming in at 2500 and being held till 4K. I really thought that the box wasnt working to start with because the pause just wasnt there. Its strange because this box seems much more drivable in 'normal' driving conditions. __________________ Black Fabia Vrs, PD160 air intake, Pipercross filter, Aero Wipers, Phillips 80% extra bulbs

20-07-2008, 10:26	#17
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,275 Thanks: 21 Thanked 82 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? the one ebay is apparantly a 16 pin version? Dragon Performance tuning system for Skoda Fabia VRS on eBay, also Chips, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 23-Jul-08 18:52:13 BST) __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

20-07-2008, 11:16	#18
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,275 Thanks: 21 Thanked 82 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? Looking around it seems dragon could have gone bust... eBay shop empty last feedback was negative online shop not working either that or they are undergoing a major overhaul __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

20-07-2008, 16:29	#19
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,275 Thanks: 21 Thanked 82 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Dragon Box..... What's yours on??? I put mine back on today as the car was feeling sluggish lol It seems a fair bit quicker now, but unfortunatly the small stutter still exists. Could someone tell me what the LED's should be doing? My red LED is never lit, the green is constant when the engine is off, and it flashes when it is on __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

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