Here's a thought.

Vengeance1 · 20-12-2003, 12:38

OK boys and girls... im new to the forum, u have no idea how long i have been looking for an RS forum... i've had the car now for like 3-4 months, love it ofcourse, problems with power understeer, but apart from that...

i have an oct RS, 2004... my question is... what mods would u do (what brands, what types etc) to get 400hp out of the car. :bouncer: So 400hp, what would u do? and were would u get the stuff.. websites etc.. what turbo kits? brakes etc? i've been on the 1.8t forum for a while, and even thought i learnt alot from them, the same concepts don't apply.. finding stuff for this car isn't easy.. til i found you GUYS!!!!

i was up til like 7AM just checking out wedsites i read here.. anyways guys thanx, hope to get a nice responce.

devonutopia · 20-12-2003, 13:19

I was going to start recommending UK people who could help, then I noticed you are kind of a small distance from the UK...

Our first U.A.E member I suspect!

So, how's the vRS coping with the sand?

To get 400HP out of the vRS engine needs major amounts of dosh. Upgrades to the entire engine almost, new intercooler, massive turbo, big exhaust, porting, ECU remap of course... The list goes on. If Des or Jon notice this thread I bet they'll be able to guide in more detail.

Welcome!

**delcac** · 20-12-2003, 15:23

Jabba Stage 3 Turbo kit running s**t loads of boost.

I think we should hear the bang from here.

Des

Vengeance1 · 20-12-2003, 21:58

looool... yeah im looking into it... but as far as the sand and all that goes... well its winter, so running at 4am is fantastic because of the humid cool air... but im telling u, if there is a sand storm.. one of my freinds put it perfectly, every other road u have to get down and clean ur airfilter.

but the stock airfilter is ok i guess.... because of the heat u can't use a modified car in the summer,. u will blow ur engine easily!.. but i mean people here have cash like u've never seen before.... as they blow one engine they have other (fast ***) cats waiting... but what to do?

i just have RS.. which is great... i had a fabia for 2 years, then upgraded to an RS.. thanks for the info, and the nice welcome.. btw the distance as far as parts and stuff isn;t a problem the car enthus here order everything... and we have performance garages too, but i think im the 4th RS in the UAE, and im sure im gonna be the first to modify it (hopefully) so 400hp is too much? what would the ideal/finaicially logical thing to do...?

SkodiRS · 20-12-2003, 22:12

Bill's mark4 Golf produces 400bhp (I think)......it's runs the Jabba IHI kit...not sure which stage though.

Anyone know the spec? Bill?

Dahlback Racing (Sweden) have a 350bhp RS......there's a link somewhere.

Or may be you can wait until Des has finished his SuperB project.

**delcac** · 21-12-2003, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodiRS

Or may be you can wait until Des has finished his SuperB project.

SuperB is staying as is, it's just to good a car for all that.

But there is a project in the wings just waiting to be unleashed.

Des

**tfboy** · 21-12-2003, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeance1

because of the heat u can't use a modified car in the summer,. u will blow ur engine easily!.. but i mean people here have cash like u've never seen before....

Welcome vengeance1. I know what you mean about the heat. I spend a couple of months working in Dubai this summer (for the IMF conference) and heat will be a main issue

Do you plan to run your car with around 400 horses all year round or just in the cooler winter months ?

You'll need some serious cooling to keep the lump cold, maybe a slush sprayer (instead of water one) to keep your inlet temps sub 50 degrees is required?

Seriously though, I wouldn't know where to start. But then again, I don't know anything about 1.8T tuning

Surely someone will be able to help you out. Maybe some local garages have techniques for sorting out heat-related problems ?

Good luck with the project though and welcome to briskoda

Vengeance1 · 22-12-2003, 00:21

Yeah dubai gets hot as hell.. well first most of the guys race at night... actually i have never been to a race during the day time.... most of them have other cars they use during the day and summer etc.. Mostly japanese cars because they have fantastic airconditioners...as far as cooling the car down... we don't drive our cars during the day.... and even if we do.. we keep it well below the 3500 RPM mark... so its not a problem... :drive: im just wondering what to do and what to put and where do get it from.. ive been surfing the net, left right and center... but im so confused because everyone has something and i don;t want to double buy something.... and here they have no experience with the RS.

**TaviaRS** · 22-12-2003, 11:47

Welcom vengance. I lived in Dubai and Abu Dhabi for 12 years, so know what you mean about the heat. I thought it was lovely.

Yes, you can import the stuff, like others do. I'm sure plenty of the suppliers here will sort you out with export stuff. I think you will find the hardest part to be the remapping of a standard ECU and may be forced down the standalone ECU route for those sort of numbers.

You will need: a new turbo (GT28 or bigger or an IHI one), new injectors (440 or bigger), possibly fuel pump, FPR, manifold, downpipe (or adaptor) and a decat system (although a 100CPI cat would also be acceptable) and some better cooling. For the Garrett turbos, try Al Wesal Trading Co in Dubai not sure about the IHI stuff over there.

Re the cooling, I would recommend a FMIC with either a waterspray or gas spray system. Use methanol instead of screenwash if going the waterspray route, the alcohol content helps to get rid of the heat better (cleans the screen well too

). Another possible is water injection.

Some suppliers for you:

For MoTEC, try Arabian Auto Technologies over in Sharjah.
For the Garrett turbos, try Al Wesal Trading Co in Dubai, not sure about the IHI stuff over there.
Adapter, AET in Yorkshire can do them (think they also do manifolds)
For suspension, try KW V3. Probably best getting it direct from Germany.

Jon

Stuart_J · 22-12-2003, 13:57

And dont forget to spend some dosh on the transmission, sticking 400 through it you will have to anyway, Audi 6 speed box & better drive shafts & clutch at least

LoBoMan · 22-12-2003, 14:25

Here is a link to the king! (NOT Elvis). He will help u up to 550 hp!!!!
http://www.dahlbackracing.se/english/main.asp

***DGW*** · 22-12-2003, 19:20

Hi, Vengeance1, and welcome to Briskoda. I used to fly operationally from Sharjah, Bahrain and Oman when I was based in Malta with the RAF.

badger5 · 22-12-2003, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodiRS

Bill's mark4 Golf produces 400bhp (I think)......it's runs the Jabba IHI kit...not sure which stage though.

Anyone know the spec? Bill?

Dahlback Racing (Sweden) have a 350bhp RS......there's a link somewhere.

Or may be you can wait until Des has finished his SuperB project.

Hello...
2 x IHI cars. SEAT Ibiza and Golf IV
Golf has more power but Ibiza is faster. (lighter)

MKIV is closest to Octavia as an example.
Runs a Jabbasport IHI conversion to stage 3+, but uses a larger hybrid IHI turbo. Also being an earlier AGU engine it has a largeport cylinder head. S3 pistons, Pauter steel rods, 2.75" exhaust, large induction kit and enlarged MAF housing, 6 spd g'box etc etc etc,.... more info on their website http://www.jabbasport.com

Ran 414bhp on 1.5bar I think, but more usually 380bhp whilst I was driving it.

Other things to explore would be ATP manifold (http://8vturbo.com) and a GT28RS turbo perhaps, but the key will be finding someone to supply a matched ecu to go with whatever turbo setup you end up going for.... or, as Jon said, going aftermarket ecu with something which is mappable locally and supported locally.

APR Stage III in the USA is something to look at to get ideas from.

www.vwvortex.com here>> http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=27 is a good resource of info going on stateside... Its a bit tetchy over there tho with people lining up to shoot any inaccurate post down in flames... (DOH!), but if you can live with that... there are some good guys on there also, who know their stuff.

FMIC is going to be a must have I would guess.....

Good luck..
hope this helps
regards
bill

Vengeance1 · 22-12-2003, 22:59

Wow u guys are seriously helpful.. thanx alot... well i was suprized to hear bahrain from one of u guys... i AM FROM BAHRAIN!! its just overwelming that someone knows where it is... usually when i say im from bahrain, people give me this look like im on some strong sedative.. so i just say a small island near saudi arabia.. im in dubai because im in med school here, so i just got my RS like 2-3 months ago.. and im drooling for modifications... A friend of a freind has a preformance garage and im seeing supra's and evo's being done up.. i know i won't get into their ball park, but i do want a bit of sweat from them when they race me...

looool.. don;t know if thats gonna happen, but hope it does... yeah cooling is a big thing on my list, but mainly i want the ideal kit to get a reliable 400 (well as reliable as possible

) thanx alot guys, truly a pleasure...

badger5 · 22-12-2003, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeance1

Wow u guys are seriously helpful.. thanx alot... well i was suprized to hear bahrain from one of u guys... i AM FROM BAHRAIN!! its just overwelming that someone knows where it is... usually when i say im from bahrain, people give me this look like im on some strong sedative.. so i just say a small island near saudi arabia.. im in dubai because im in med school here, so i just got my RS like 2-3 months ago.. and im drooling for modifications... A friend of a freind has a preformance garage and im seeing supra's and evo's being done up.. i know i won't get into their ball park, but i do want a bit of sweat from them when they race me...

looool.. don;t know if thats gonna happen, but hope it does... yeah cooling is a big thing on my list, but mainly i want the ideal kit to get a reliable 400 (well as reliable as possible

) thanx alot guys, truly a pleasure...

You have one distinct advantage.... the 20V turbo motor is Awesome and very tunable. 20V cylinder head is a superb flower. Combined with a free spooling larger turbo you will be able to release some serious horsepower.

Enjoy.

20-12-2003, 12:38	#1
Vengeance1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dubai Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's a thought. OK boys and girls... im new to the forum, u have no idea how long i have been looking for an RS forum... i've had the car now for like 3-4 months, love it ofcourse, problems with power understeer, but apart from that... i have an oct RS, 2004... my question is... what mods would u do (what brands, what types etc) to get 400hp out of the car. :bouncer: So 400hp, what would u do? and were would u get the stuff.. websites etc.. what turbo kits? brakes etc? i've been on the 1.8t forum for a while, and even thought i learnt alot from them, the same concepts don't apply.. finding stuff for this car isn't easy.. til i found you GUYS!!!! i was up til like 7AM just checking out wedsites i read here.. anyways guys thanx, hope to get a nice responce.

20-12-2003, 13:19	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,084 Images: 5 Thanks: 76 Thanked 347 Times in 290 Posts	I was going to start recommending UK people who could help, then I noticed you are kind of a small distance from the UK... Our first U.A.E member I suspect! So, how's the vRS coping with the sand? To get 400HP out of the vRS engine needs major amounts of dosh. Upgrades to the entire engine almost, new intercooler, massive turbo, big exhaust, porting, ECU remap of course... The list goes on. If Des or Jon notice this thread I bet they'll be able to guide in more detail. Welcome! __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

20-12-2003, 15:23	#3
delcac Still a **** Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 7,396 Thanks: 16 Thanked 70 Times in 55 Posts	Jabba Stage 3 Turbo kit running s**t loads of boost. I think we should hear the bang from here. Des __________________ The Red Devil

20-12-2003, 22:12	#5
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Bill's mark4 Golf produces 400bhp (I think)......it's runs the Jabba IHI kit...not sure which stage though. Anyone know the spec? Bill? Dahlback Racing (Sweden) have a 350bhp RS......there's a link somewhere. Or may be you can wait until Des has finished his SuperB project. __________________ Adrian.

22-12-2003, 13:57	#10
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,678 Thanks: 39 Thanked 84 Times in 77 Posts	And dont forget to spend some dosh on the transmission, sticking 400 through it you will have to anyway, Audi 6 speed box & better drive shafts & clutch at least __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

20-12-2003, 21:58	#4
Vengeance1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dubai Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	looool... yeah im looking into it... but as far as the sand and all that goes... well its winter, so running at 4am is fantastic because of the humid cool air... but im telling u, if there is a sand storm.. one of my freinds put it perfectly, every other road u have to get down and clean ur airfilter. but the stock airfilter is ok i guess.... because of the heat u can't use a modified car in the summer,. u will blow ur engine easily!.. but i mean people here have cash like u've never seen before.... as they blow one engine they have other (fast ***) cats waiting... but what to do? i just have RS.. which is great... i had a fabia for 2 years, then upgraded to an RS.. thanks for the info, and the nice welcome.. btw the distance as far as parts and stuff isn;t a problem the car enthus here order everything... and we have performance garages too, but i think im the 4th RS in the UAE, and im sure im gonna be the first to modify it (hopefully) so 400hp is too much? what would the ideal/finaicially logical thing to do...?

22-12-2003, 00:21	#8
Vengeance1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dubai Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah dubai gets hot as hell.. well first most of the guys race at night... actually i have never been to a race during the day time.... most of them have other cars they use during the day and summer etc.. Mostly japanese cars because they have fantastic airconditioners...as far as cooling the car down... we don't drive our cars during the day.... and even if we do.. we keep it well below the 3500 RPM mark... so its not a problem... :drive: im just wondering what to do and what to put and where do get it from.. ive been surfing the net, left right and center... but im so confused because everyone has something and i don;t want to double buy something.... and here they have no experience with the RS.

22-12-2003, 11:47	#9
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Welcom vengance. I lived in Dubai and Abu Dhabi for 12 years, so know what you mean about the heat. I thought it was lovely. Yes, you can import the stuff, like others do. I'm sure plenty of the suppliers here will sort you out with export stuff. I think you will find the hardest part to be the remapping of a standard ECU and may be forced down the standalone ECU route for those sort of numbers. You will need: a new turbo (GT28 or bigger or an IHI one), new injectors (440 or bigger), possibly fuel pump, FPR, manifold, downpipe (or adaptor) and a decat system (although a 100CPI cat would also be acceptable) and some better cooling. For the Garrett turbos, try Al Wesal Trading Co in Dubai not sure about the IHI stuff over there. Re the cooling, I would recommend a FMIC with either a waterspray or gas spray system. Use methanol instead of screenwash if going the waterspray route, the alcohol content helps to get rid of the heat better (cleans the screen well too ). Another possible is water injection. Some suppliers for you: For MoTEC, try Arabian Auto Technologies over in Sharjah. For the Garrett turbos, try Al Wesal Trading Co in Dubai, not sure about the IHI stuff over there. Adapter, AET in Yorkshire can do them (think they also do manifolds) For suspension, try KW V3. Probably best getting it direct from Germany. Jon

22-12-2003, 14:25	#11
LoBoMan Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: sweden (luleå? Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here is a link to the king! (NOT Elvis). He will help u up to 550 hp!!!! http://www.dahlbackracing.se/english/main.asp __________________ Mods I plan to to: Revo 4bar chip, 4bar FPR, dogbone, TIP (forge) 2,5" from turbo, modyfied airbox, front intercooler.

22-12-2003, 19:20	#12
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,259 Thanks: 51 Thanked 197 Times in 149 Posts	Hi, Vengeance1, and welcome to Briskoda. I used to fly operationally from Sharjah, Bahrain and Oman when I was based in Malta with the RAF. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

22-12-2003, 22:59	#14
Vengeance1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dubai Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow u guys are seriously helpful.. thanx alot... well i was suprized to hear bahrain from one of u guys... i AM FROM BAHRAIN!! its just overwelming that someone knows where it is... usually when i say im from bahrain, people give me this look like im on some strong sedative.. so i just say a small island near saudi arabia.. im in dubai because im in med school here, so i just got my RS like 2-3 months ago.. and im drooling for modifications... A friend of a freind has a preformance garage and im seeing supra's and evo's being done up.. i know i won't get into their ball park, but i do want a bit of sweat from them when they race me... looool.. don;t know if thats gonna happen, but hope it does... yeah cooling is a big thing on my list, but mainly i want the ideal kit to get a reliable 400 (well as reliable as possible ) thanx alot guys, truly a pleasure...

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