KW V2 suspension now fitted

**mannyo** · 22-03-2004, 15:27

Thanks to Jabbasport I now have KW V2 suspension fitted to my Octy vRS. What a difference to standard, car seems to handle far better. All I need to sort out is the front ride height once I can find a piece of dead level ground. At the mo I think one side is slightly lower than the other (by feel at the roadside). Heres a couple of pics.

redbaron · 22-03-2004, 15:29

looking good..

i cant get my kw to go low enough.... not sure if i dare cut the springs at the back....?

and my car sits lower on one side than the other...

**mannyo** · 22-03-2004, 16:52

Just had a quick closer look. The passenger front is ever so slightly higher than the drivers side, as a guess might only need to drop a thread or 2.

So, do I lower that side or increase the drivers side to the same height.

Assuming I decide to drop the passenger side, Which way do I need to turn the big nut (viewed from passenger side sitting in front of wheel). Will that be

A) Start with the extended part of the spanner near the bulkhead and rotate towards bumper (clockwise) or,

B) Start with the extended part towards the bumper and rotate towards bulkhead (anticlock).

I would have got Jabba to sort it on Saturday but unfortunatly cant make that now due to a lunchtime baby birthday meal.

redbaron · 22-03-2004, 17:01

and presumably you were sat in the drivers side when you applied the handbrake?.......

if you can see where im heading with this?

**mannyo** · 22-03-2004, 17:27

Paul, I know where you are heading. Handbrake not applied, car left in 1st gear with engine off.

Stuart_J · 22-03-2004, 18:09

Little tip before you play, drive the car at night, you will tell from the headlights if the car is still level front to back compared with before you fitted the KW's, might just have an input into what you change

DaveU · 22-03-2004, 18:51

Apparently if you take it much lower than 45mm you risk breaking the driveshafts...

I remember **** who had a dedicated track RS had trouble with his. Worth doing a search.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffelan

looking good..

i cant get my kw to go low enough.... not sure if i dare cut the springs at the back....?

and my car sits lower on one side than the other...

MonkeyHanger · 22-03-2004, 18:55

Manny, looks great

Had the alignment checked yet?

redbaron · 22-03-2004, 18:56

mines on the floor so will let you know on the driveshafts....

****s was very very low i heard.......

**mannyo** · 22-03-2004, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyHanger

Manny, looks great

Had the alignment checked yet?

Geoff

Not had the alignment checked yet, will get take it down to my friendly tyre place on friday once I get the height sorted, says I hoping for a dry day friday.

kenny · 22-03-2004, 19:31

looks great, whats it like driving on the roads, over bumps etc?

**mannyo** · 22-03-2004, 19:35

Kenny,

Round town I would say it feels much firmer, and you really notice road humps. At motorway speed, it feels pretty much like standard except you can feel that the wheels are connected to the steering wheel. Best money ever spent.

Vincent Vega · 22-03-2004, 19:58

Looking good Bro all you need now is to take all the seats out. Cant wait for a TEST DRIVE

kenny · 22-03-2004, 20:18

it doesnt feel to firm around town? alot of country roads around my way

**mannyo** · 23-03-2004, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny

it doesnt feel to firm around town? alot of country roads around my way

Not really, I have it set somewhere around the middle setting. I dont know where exactly because jabba did the setup. I would describe it as firmer than standard but not bone breaking.

Drove it to work today and it feels much more planted than before, when pulling away hard from a stop I used to get lots of judder and banging from the old stuff, Not anymore.

Loukas · 24-03-2004, 10:05

Manny,

Very nice ....

Just some questions..

The standard setup (i mean to the highest position) the car (front) is now lower that stock? or the same?
I can not figured out from the pictures...

The confort is worse now?? (travels only in not so good roads)

***DGW*** · 24-03-2004, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

Not had the alignment checked yet, will get take it down to my friendly tyre place on friday....

I assume that you are talking about having a 4 wheel alignment check done, Manny?

***ColinD*** · 24-03-2004, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

Kenny,

Round town I would say it feels much firmer, and you really notice road humps. At motorway speed, it feels pretty much like standard except you can feel that the wheels are connected to the steering wheel. Best money ever spent.

Manny, They are good eh?

Similar view when I had mine on the 4x4. I think I got a duff unit as I managed to blow the damper, how do you find the compression on undulating roads?

Take it easy on the first test, just trying to establish how much my blown damper (maybe dampers) were contributing to the issues.

That said I think Stuart got some tip top tips for the setup.

Going to be a ring prince now

Dutch4x4 · 24-03-2004, 10:40

Very nice, Manny! More food for thought - still waiting on Bilstein's answer...

Stuart_J · 24-03-2004, 12:05

Mattijs

One little word of warning whatever set up you choose, the bottom members on the rear suspension (4x4) are not adjustable so as you lower the car the camber gets worse or should I say better for cornering, worse for tyre wear. If its a problem you can get adjustable bottom links from Forge but they are £250 ish (rip off).
They are meant for TT's & come with a 1 inch thread not 24mm so they must be imported from the good old USA. If you have time it would be easy to mod your own, or better still get a second hand set to mod.

Stuart

Dutch4x4 · 24-03-2004, 12:37

Interesting fact there, Stuart. So what's the effect on a car that's already lowered like mine?

Mind you, they were pricey lowering springs supplied by the dealer. Would he have known this and thus made the extra cost to tackle the problem?

Will be there Saturday to seek out a new Fab for Mrs D4x4, so will ask.

Stuart_J · 24-03-2004, 14:20

I would guess if yours is lowered & is Ok they must have sorted it, from memory I think I had 3-4 degrees of camber before I fitted the adjustable jobbies, handled well though !

**mannyo** · 26-03-2004, 14:01

Had the wheel alignment checked today, all 4 corners. Was spot on and didnt need touching.

Loukas,

The standard setup (i mean to the highest position) the car (front) is now lower that stock? or the same?
I can not figured out from the pictures...

I think the highest setting is about the same as the standard vRS, I have gone 40mm lower than this at the front as shown in the pics. You can go down 65mm if you want to, but to be honest then road humps are a real problem. As a guide if you put 2 fingers together verically thats about the gap between the tyre and wheel arch.

The confort is worse now?? (travels only in not so good roads)

Around town, it feels firmer. Not bad, again I have it set to middle so can go softer if required. Its ok for me though, holes in the road feel the same as standard. What you do notice more is the roughness of some roads.

22-03-2004, 15:27	#1
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,469 Thanks: 58 Thanked 360 Times in 331 Posts	KW V2 suspension now fitted Thanks to Jabbasport I now have KW V2 suspension fitted to my Octy vRS. What a difference to standard, car seems to handle far better. All I need to sort out is the front ride height once I can find a piece of dead level ground. At the mo I think one side is slightly lower than the other (by feel at the roadside). Heres a couple of pics. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

22-03-2004, 15:29	#2
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,567 Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	looking good.. i cant get my kw to go low enough.... not sure if i dare cut the springs at the back....? and my car sits lower on one side than the other... __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

22-03-2004, 16:52	#3
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,469 Thanks: 58 Thanked 360 Times in 331 Posts	Just had a quick closer look. The passenger front is ever so slightly higher than the drivers side, as a guess might only need to drop a thread or 2. So, do I lower that side or increase the drivers side to the same height. Assuming I decide to drop the passenger side, Which way do I need to turn the big nut (viewed from passenger side sitting in front of wheel). Will that be A) Start with the extended part of the spanner near the bulkhead and rotate towards bumper (clockwise) or, B) Start with the extended part towards the bumper and rotate towards bulkhead (anticlock). I would have got Jabba to sort it on Saturday but unfortunatly cant make that now due to a lunchtime baby birthday meal. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

22-03-2004, 17:01	#4
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,567 Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	and presumably you were sat in the drivers side when you applied the handbrake?....... if you can see where im heading with this? __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

22-03-2004, 17:27	#5
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,469 Thanks: 58 Thanked 360 Times in 331 Posts	Paul, I know where you are heading. Handbrake not applied, car left in 1st gear with engine off. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

22-03-2004, 18:09	#6
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,710 Thanks: 39 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts	Little tip before you play, drive the car at night, you will tell from the headlights if the car is still level front to back compared with before you fitted the KW's, might just have an input into what you change __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

22-03-2004, 18:55	#8
MonkeyHanger Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anywhere but here Posts: 8,779 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Manny, looks great Had the alignment checked yet?

22-03-2004, 18:56	#9
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,567 Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	mines on the floor so will let you know on the driveshafts.... ****s was very very low i heard....... __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

22-03-2004, 19:31	#11
kenny Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,795 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	looks great, whats it like driving on the roads, over bumps etc? __________________ Ive seen a lot of good things die and im in an over emotional way So please hand me the bottle I think im lonely now, and please give me direction I think the hurt has set in, and I don’t feel nothing

22-03-2004, 19:35	#12
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,469 Thanks: 58 Thanked 360 Times in 331 Posts	Kenny, Round town I would say it feels much firmer, and you really notice road humps. At motorway speed, it feels pretty much like standard except you can feel that the wheels are connected to the steering wheel. Best money ever spent. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

22-03-2004, 19:58	#13
Vincent Vega Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South East Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice Looking good Bro all you need now is to take all the seats out. Cant wait for a TEST DRIVE

22-03-2004, 20:18	#14
kenny Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,795 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	it doesnt feel to firm around town? alot of country roads around my way __________________ Ive seen a lot of good things die and im in an over emotional way So please hand me the bottle I think im lonely now, and please give me direction I think the hurt has set in, and I don’t feel nothing

24-03-2004, 10:05	#16
Loukas Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Athens Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Manny, Very nice .... Just some questions.. The standard setup (i mean to the highest position) the car (front) is now lower that stock? or the same? I can not figured out from the pictures... The confort is worse now?? (travels only in not so good roads) __________________ MR FREEZE Things are getting COOLER now

24-03-2004, 10:40	#19
Dutch4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: kicking up feet in the Formula Stealth paddock Posts: 3,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very nice, Manny! More food for thought - still waiting on Bilstein's answer... __________________ Mrs D's Briskoda: Octavia 4x4 turbo (2003), Oettinger 210, Koni Sport, MAD Sportive, Dotz Le Mans 17", Bridgestone Potenza S-03, sports interior. And a Fiesta ST (2006) for myself...

24-03-2004, 12:05	#20
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,710 Thanks: 39 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts	Mattijs One little word of warning whatever set up you choose, the bottom members on the rear suspension (4x4) are not adjustable so as you lower the car the camber gets worse or should I say better for cornering, worse for tyre wear. If its a problem you can get adjustable bottom links from Forge but they are £250 ish (rip off). They are meant for TT's & come with a 1 inch thread not 24mm so they must be imported from the good old USA. If you have time it would be easy to mod your own, or better still get a second hand set to mod. Stuart __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

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24-03-2004, 12:37	#21
Dutch4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: kicking up feet in the Formula Stealth paddock Posts: 3,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting fact there, Stuart. So what's the effect on a car that's already lowered like mine? Mind you, they were pricey lowering springs supplied by the dealer. Would he have known this and thus made the extra cost to tackle the problem? Will be there Saturday to seek out a new Fab for Mrs D4x4, so will ask. __________________ Mrs D's Briskoda: Octavia 4x4 turbo (2003), Oettinger 210, Koni Sport, MAD Sportive, Dotz Le Mans 17", Bridgestone Potenza S-03, sports interior. And a Fiesta ST (2006) for myself...

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Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,710 Thanks: 39 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts	I would guess if yours is lowered & is Ok they must have sorted it, from memory I think I had 3-4 degrees of camber before I fitted the adjustable jobbies, handled well though ! __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

26-03-2004, 14:01	#23
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,469 Thanks: 58 Thanked 360 Times in 331 Posts	Had the wheel alignment checked today, all 4 corners. Was spot on and didnt need touching. Loukas, The standard setup (i mean to the highest position) the car (front) is now lower that stock? or the same? I can not figured out from the pictures... I think the highest setting is about the same as the standard vRS, I have gone 40mm lower than this at the front as shown in the pics. You can go down 65mm if you want to, but to be honest then road humps are a real problem. As a guide if you put 2 fingers together verically thats about the gap between the tyre and wheel arch. The confort is worse now?? (travels only in not so good roads) Around town, it feels firmer. Not bad, again I have it set to middle so can go softer if required. Its ok for me though, holes in the road feel the same as standard. What you do notice more is the roughness of some roads. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

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