Are my brakes due for a change

faboka vrs · 01-11-2006, 10:31

Had my current setup for 30K miles now. Their performance is not what they once was. the initial bite is no longer there and you have to use more pedal power to get the performance.

Looking at the discs their doesnt seem to be much of a lip. Whats the min depth of the disc can be? Also looking at the pads their seems to be a good 1cm left. the fluid was last changed about 10K miles ago. But as its not being "used

" much this past year I've not bothered to changing it yet. At the last service the dealer seemed to think their was over 50% left in them. (assume he means pads)

Cheers

**mannyo** · 01-11-2006, 10:41

Perhaps they are still the same but have now got used to them. The pads should work just the same from new untill you hit the backing plate on the disk. I would expect a lip to form on the disk quiet quickly but as the pad contact is still the same efficeny shouldnt be affected.

EddyH · 01-11-2006, 10:49

Could the pads have become glazed? Try doing a few hard stops from motorway speeds (obviously making sure it's a safe place to do it). If that doesn't improve things gets the fluid bled or preferably replaced before thinking of changing pads or discs.

faboka vrs · 01-11-2006, 10:57

Fluid change is sounds like a plan. (goes off to re-read eddy's thread

)

As for the pads being glazed. Is their anyway of knowing this or is it just a case of doing a few hard stops and seeing if it helps.

sharkrider · 02-11-2006, 18:47

I had to replace all the pads on my vRS at 33,000 miles, so not far off your mileage.... JBS assured me the disks would be good for two sets of pads, and they have been... still working well at 58k (as the people at the Keswick meet will testify )

ChrisRs · 02-11-2006, 19:22

There was a terrible smell of scorched rubber coming off your car. You must have been giving it some pasty up that hill!! No wonder your pads are creamed!!!

ric04vrs · 02-11-2006, 22:39

I've just had to replace the front pads on my Fabia VRS , i only took a cursory glance at them whilst i was swapping the wheels over so my sticky Toyos are on the front for the track day tomorrow , N/S looked ok but O/S looked dodgy , on closer inspection , all of the friction material on the inner pad had broken up and was no longer attached to backing plate

the N/S was the same as well

don't know how long they've been like that as i've never touched them , obviously they got a bit warm when i was at the Nurburgring in August , but i never noticed any deterioration in brake performance or any odd noises , they have done 37k miles and i'm not heavy on the brakes , anyway fitted new pads and i must say the brakes do seem better , i'll kill them pads tomorrow at Oulton Park

ric04vrs · 02-11-2006, 22:40

i would post the piccys i've just took of them if i knew how to , doh

ric04vrs · 03-11-2006, 16:26

well i've just got back from the track day at Oulton Park , i've totally smoked the new pads , quite literally

cracking good fun as well , the Fabia holds its own even without a remap against some quicker cars

sharkrider · 03-11-2006, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ric04vrs

I've just had to replace the front pads on my Fabia VRS , i only took a cursory glance at them whilst i was swapping the wheels over so my sticky Toyos are on the front for the track day tomorrow , N/S looked ok but O/S looked dodgy , on closer inspection , all of the friction material on the inner pad had broken up and was no longer attached to backing plate

the N/S was the same as well

don't know how long they've been like that as i've never touched them , obviously they got a bit warm when i was at the Nurburgring in August , but i never noticed any deterioration in brake performance or any odd noises , they have done 37k miles and i'm not heavy on the brakes , anyway fitted new pads and i must say the brakes do seem better , i'll kill them pads tomorrow at Oulton Park

37k ... similar mileage again... and mine wore on the inside pad... the outside looked fine

and Chris: yes I could smell it, lol..... I never worry about things like that unless I detect a loss of performance

EddyH · 03-11-2006, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkrider

37k ... similar mileage again... and mine wore on the inside pad... the outside looked fine

and Chris: yes I could smell it, lol..... I never worry about things like that unless I detect a loss of performance

Inside pad is where the piston is so has more force excerted on it.

01-11-2006, 10:31	#1
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 11 Thanked 34 Times in 34 Posts	Are my brakes due for a change Had my current setup for 30K miles now. Their performance is not what they once was. the initial bite is no longer there and you have to use more pedal power to get the performance. Looking at the discs their doesnt seem to be much of a lip. Whats the min depth of the disc can be? Also looking at the pads their seems to be a good 1cm left. the fluid was last changed about 10K miles ago. But as its not being "used " much this past year I've not bothered to changing it yet. At the last service the dealer seemed to think their was over 50% left in them. (assume he means pads) Cheers __________________ John Take away the poor damping, inadequate bushes, heavy diesel lump and spongy brakes its not a bad warm hatch

01-11-2006, 10:41	#2
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 10,758 Thanks: 26 Thanked 266 Times in 249 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change Perhaps they are still the same but have now got used to them. The pads should work just the same from new untill you hit the backing plate on the disk. I would expect a lip to form on the disk quiet quickly but as the pad contact is still the same efficeny shouldnt be affected. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

01-11-2006, 10:49	#3
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,892 Thanks: 37 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change Could the pads have become glazed? Try doing a few hard stops from motorway speeds (obviously making sure it's a safe place to do it). If that doesn't improve things gets the fluid bled or preferably replaced before thinking of changing pads or discs. __________________ EddyH Audi S8 Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

01-11-2006, 10:57	#4
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 11 Thanked 34 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change Fluid change is sounds like a plan. (goes off to re-read eddy's thread ) As for the pads being glazed. Is their anyway of knowing this or is it just a case of doing a few hard stops and seeing if it helps. __________________ John Take away the poor damping, inadequate bushes, heavy diesel lump and spongy brakes its not a bad warm hatch

02-11-2006, 18:47	#5
sharkrider rider of sharks Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cumbria Posts: 3,697 Thanks: 187 Thanked 90 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change I had to replace all the pads on my vRS at 33,000 miles, so not far off your mileage.... JBS assured me the disks would be good for two sets of pads, and they have been... still working well at 58k (as the people at the Keswick meet will testify ) __________________ Fiat Grande Punto Sporting (158 bhp 314 lbs/ft) in Red.... Furby vRS , black magic,passenger airbag de-activation switch, (now gone, but not forgotten!)

02-11-2006, 19:22	#6
ChrisRs Skonda Fabic Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,979 Thanks: 17 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change There was a terrible smell of scorched rubber coming off your car. You must have been giving it some pasty up that hill!! No wonder your pads are creamed!!!

02-11-2006, 22:39	#7
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,045 Thanks: 28 Thanked 174 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change I've just had to replace the front pads on my Fabia VRS , i only took a cursory glance at them whilst i was swapping the wheels over so my sticky Toyos are on the front for the track day tomorrow , N/S looked ok but O/S looked dodgy , on closer inspection , all of the friction material on the inner pad had broken up and was no longer attached to backing plate the N/S was the same as well don't know how long they've been like that as i've never touched them , obviously they got a bit warm when i was at the Nurburgring in August , but i never noticed any deterioration in brake performance or any odd noises , they have done 37k miles and i'm not heavy on the brakes , anyway fitted new pads and i must say the brakes do seem better , i'll kill them pads tomorrow at Oulton Park __________________ not so bored now

02-11-2006, 22:40	#8
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,045 Thanks: 28 Thanked 174 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change i would post the piccys i've just took of them if i knew how to , doh __________________ not so bored now

03-11-2006, 16:26	#9
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,045 Thanks: 28 Thanked 174 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Are my brakes due for a change well i've just got back from the track day at Oulton Park , i've totally smoked the new pads , quite literally cracking good fun as well , the Fabia holds its own even without a remap against some quicker cars __________________ not so bored now

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