Service questions

Quinten · 19-01-2004, 09:51

Starting the car yesterday afternoon I discovered the service indicator telling me I had 1000 miles left before it required service. Nothing new to me as it has been almost 10K miles since it last was serviced (by dealer before delivery to me). The service I'm going to need is at 45K miles, which I guess makes it a 40K mile service (as the service book stamps show it once had 15K between services). Since I'm at work (and can't look into the manual myself) and like to be prepared before I phone the garage, is there anyone around who knows what sort of things require changing/servicing this time around? Just oil/filters? Plugs too?

I will ask them to check brakes as well, and if they require replacing, I will consider upgrading them to something more grippy. What sort of price should I keep in mind for changing fronts/backs? Rough indication will do cos if the price is roughly equal to what garage will charge me then I might as well go for better ones.

Thanks,

Q.

**robmawer** · 19-01-2004, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinten

Just oil/filters? Plugs too?

Had my 40k in December, and IIRC the plugs were listed on the invoice. It's not a cheap service...

Rob.

SkodiRS · 19-01-2004, 10:12

I think the brake fluid is changed at the 40k service.

Ferrodo DS2500 cost around £100 (it's around £99 +P&P from Demontweeks with Briskoda discount) for the front....not much less for the rears.

**TaviaRS** · 19-01-2004, 10:20

At least £250.

You get the oil change + (IIRC)
plugs (£65)
air filter
pollen filter
brake fluid change

Quinten · 19-01-2004, 10:31

** gulp **

By the looks of it a major service then. And looking at the prices of the DS2500's, I imagine not far off from normal Skoda parts.

Are the airfilter and pollen filter servicable at all or do they need replacing? I've learned this weekend that some parts are just replaced instead of serviced, even though they are dead easy to clean (MAF sensor is a good example, thanks Des

).

**robmawer** · 19-01-2004, 10:34

Yes, 40k is a major, though not as major as a 60k.

Filters are usually just swapped instead of cleaned, as they're made to be disposable. Most of the cost is in labour anyway...

Rob.

**mannyo** · 19-01-2004, 10:45

Mine had the 40k variable a couple of months ago, as already stated its a fairly major service. The 60k on the other hand is even more, because although the cambelt life is supposed to be 120k I have been recommend that its replaced at 60k.

Quinten · 19-01-2004, 21:34

Thanks chaps, looks like I'll have to give meat on the table a miss for the next couple of months

***ncarring*** · 19-01-2004, 21:44

40k service on mine came to £210 including

Brake fluid change - £17.60 + £5.10 - this job is so p*ss easy with a pressure bleeder it would be easy to save £20 here.
Spark plugs - £27.52
Pollen Filter - £11.99

Air filter is also part of the 40k but mine had been changed a couple of months earlier by Jabbasport - another £11 or so.

Quinten · 19-01-2004, 21:49

Don't forget Nick, I have no mechanical knowledge and had to rely on Des to fit a DV... so I have no problems paying for brake fluids, but if it needs changing I'd rather upgrade at the same time to save me making the same expense twice.

***ncarring*** · 19-01-2004, 21:55

Aye you should be able to trot in with your little container and say "put that in for me please".

Quinten · 20-01-2004, 11:17

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what is the difference between pads and discs? If there is any difference, which ones does my (real) RS have?

rich1068 · 20-01-2004, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinten

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what is the difference between pads and discs? If there is any difference, which ones does my (real) RS have?

Do you mean what are they? I have about the same technical knowledge but I believe the discs are the big round silver things and the pads are the things that 'grab' the big round silver things to make you stop!

***ncarring*** · 20-01-2004, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinten

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what is the difference between pads and discs? If there is any difference, which ones does my (real) RS have?

1. Discs are attached to the hub and go round and round. They are made of cast iron (except in high performance cars where they may be made of more exotic materials)
2. Pads are made of friction material (used to be asbestos!) and are contained within a caliper, which is stationary. When you apply the brakes, the caliper squeezes inwards, and presses the pads on the surface of the disc. The disc is slowed down by the friction, and you stop (you hope :p ).
3. Both - or you are in trouble.

For more info try here. Howstuffworks is great for simple explanations of stuff like this.

rich1068 · 20-01-2004, 11:33

So while we're on the subject what's that big oily metal thing under the bonnet of my car?

SkodiRS · 20-01-2004, 11:33

RS has discs all round (front/rear) and pads. Caliper "squeezes" the pads on the disc surfaces.

Some cars (povery spec Octy) has brake drums at the rear....sort of looks like a biscuit tin... and shoe brakes which go on the inside. Drum mechanism pushes the shoes on to the inside of drum (not the circlar face).

Edit: Doh! Rich got in there first.

***ncarring*** · 20-01-2004, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich1068

... big oily metal thing under the bonnet of my car?

You need to get yourself some MultiClean, Rich - the group buy's still open ...

PS you found the little handle by the driver's door then :p

Quinten · 20-01-2004, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncarring

1. Discs are attached to the hub and go round and round. They are made of cast iron (except in high performance cars where they may be made of more exotic materials)
2. Pads are made of friction material (used to be asbestos!) and are contained within a caliper, which is stationary. When you apply the brakes, the caliper squeezes inwards, and presses the pads on the surface of the disc. The disc is slowed down by the friction, and you stop (you hope :p ).
3. Both - or you are in trouble.

For more info try here. Howstuffworks is great for simple explanations of stuff like this.

Thanks Nick, it seems I knew the answer all along, but somehow the penny got stuck in between the sawdust and a piece of straw and I just didnt get it...

It does raise another question though; can you 'mix & match' pads and discs? In other words, if the garage tells me the pads need replacing can I just upgrade those and leave the original discs or do they both have to be upgraded at the same time?

Feel free to give me some negative reputation though if I'm asking a FAQ

**robmawer** · 20-01-2004, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinten

In other words, if the garage tells me the pads need replacing can I just upgrade those and leave the original discs or do they both have to be upgraded at the same time?

Yeah, pads are designed to wear out quicker than discs, so you will probably change your pads on their own. If you're upgrading, then you can just stick better pads on, though do some research into whether they will damage a standard disc through being more abrasive...

Rob.

Quinten · 20-01-2004, 13:08

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though do some research into whether they will damage a standard disc through being more abrasive...

Mind if I use that as an excuse for SWMBO?

19-01-2004, 09:51	#1
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,013 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Service questions Starting the car yesterday afternoon I discovered the service indicator telling me I had 1000 miles left before it required service. Nothing new to me as it has been almost 10K miles since it last was serviced (by dealer before delivery to me). The service I'm going to need is at 45K miles, which I guess makes it a 40K mile service (as the service book stamps show it once had 15K between services). Since I'm at work (and can't look into the manual myself) and like to be prepared before I phone the garage, is there anyone around who knows what sort of things require changing/servicing this time around? Just oil/filters? Plugs too? I will ask them to check brakes as well, and if they require replacing, I will consider upgrading them to something more grippy. What sort of price should I keep in mind for changing fronts/backs? Rough indication will do cos if the price is roughly equal to what garage will charge me then I might as well go for better ones. Thanks, Q. __________________ Awooga!!!

19-01-2004, 10:12	#3
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	I think the brake fluid is changed at the 40k service. Ferrodo DS2500 cost around £100 (it's around £99 +P&P from Demontweeks with Briskoda discount) for the front....not much less for the rears. __________________ Adrian.

19-01-2004, 10:31	#5
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,013 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	gulp By the looks of it a major service then. And looking at the prices of the DS2500's, I imagine not far off from normal Skoda parts. Are the airfilter and pollen filter servicable at all or do they need replacing? I've learned this weekend that some parts are just replaced instead of serviced, even though they are dead easy to clean (MAF sensor is a good example, thanks Des ). __________________ Awooga!!!

19-01-2004, 10:34	#6
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,366 Thanks: 2 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts	Yes, 40k is a major, though not as major as a 60k. Filters are usually just swapped instead of cleaned, as they're made to be disposable. Most of the cost is in labour anyway... Rob. __________________

19-01-2004, 10:45	#7
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 10,711 Thanks: 24 Thanked 253 Times in 239 Posts	Mine had the 40k variable a couple of months ago, as already stated its a fairly major service. The 60k on the other hand is even more, because although the cambelt life is supposed to be 120k I have been recommend that its replaced at 60k. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

19-01-2004, 10:20	#4
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,918 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	At least £250. You get the oil change + (IIRC) plugs (£65) air filter pollen filter brake fluid change

19-01-2004, 21:34	#8
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,013 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Thanks chaps, looks like I'll have to give meat on the table a miss for the next couple of months __________________ Awooga!!!

19-01-2004, 21:44	#9
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,834 Thanks: 15 Thanked 81 Times in 70 Posts	40k service on mine came to £210 including Brake fluid change - £17.60 + £5.10 - this job is so p*ss easy with a pressure bleeder it would be easy to save £20 here. Spark plugs - £27.52 Pollen Filter - £11.99 Air filter is also part of the 40k but mine had been changed a couple of months earlier by Jabbasport - another £11 or so. __________________ Nick

19-01-2004, 21:49	#10
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,013 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Don't forget Nick, I have no mechanical knowledge and had to rely on Des to fit a DV... so I have no problems paying for brake fluids, but if it needs changing I'd rather upgrade at the same time to save me making the same expense twice. __________________ Awooga!!!

19-01-2004, 21:55	#11
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,834 Thanks: 15 Thanked 81 Times in 70 Posts	Aye you should be able to trot in with your little container and say "put that in for me please". __________________ Nick

20-01-2004, 11:17	#12
Quinten playing dadsie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,013 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what is the difference between pads and discs? If there is any difference, which ones does my (real) RS have? __________________ Awooga!!!

20-01-2004, 11:33	#15
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So while we're on the subject what's that big oily metal thing under the bonnet of my car? __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

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