Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130)

Wardy · 10-10-2006, 00:59

This started happening last week, randomly. Drove car to gym, was fine. 2hrs later, drove home on the same route and did this from the off. Can best be described as a buzzing or vibration noise, only from 1800/1900rpm onwards, most noticeable when 'making progress'.

Almost seems induction based, but seems unlikely as I'm pretty sure it's coming from the right-hand side of the engine bay (from the view of sitting in the car). Boost pipe perhaps?

Car is remapped, with PD160 intake and Green panel filter. There's been no performance degredation since it started. It's in for service and cambelt within the next fortnight (hopefully) and will get it looked at then anyway. Was just after a few ideas about it before then.

It sounds quite nice in a strange way, but I know it shouldn't be doing it really!

Thanks,
Steve

cheezemonkhai · 10-10-2006, 14:25

DMF prehaps as my fathers focus made these vibrations along with other things. Not sure which side the flywheel is on on the PD130 though so sorry.

Wardy · 11-10-2006, 01:01

Cheers, did think of this but wouldn't that vibrate more often, i.e. not starting when boost comes online? Perhaps when moving off as well?

Anyone else?

Steve

cheezemonkhai · 11-10-2006, 15:15

No idea mate, could just be resonating at certain frequencies or as the torque starts to come through properly.

Wardy · 15-11-2006, 13:52

- any more ideas people? I had the service and belts done two weeks ago, no problems highlighted at all. Had it on the RR at Awesome too, and mentioned this to them, but nothing was reported back.

I'm dropping it back into the garage on Monday for them to do a proper shakedown/roadtest, see if they can track down the source...

Steve

Tom_vRS · 15-11-2006, 14:39

Steve, DMF vibrations seem to come through the gearbox, quite a dull noise, so I dont think this is what you're experiencing.

The noise you are describing sounds just like what my mate is having in his FR. Its a boost pipe at the back of the engine rattling against something, moving it across is a short term fix. He is having a modified part fitted under warranty, suggesting that this is a known problem? The modified hose attaches to something else to keep it in place...

Sorry for being so vague, but hope it helps.

FWIW, its quite a loud vibration, only really noticable when making progress, and fairly intermittant.

Tom_vRS · 15-11-2006, 14:43

After re-reading your post, I'm sure this is the same problem. I'll ask Matt (FR owner) for more details...

Wardy · 15-11-2006, 14:44

Thanks for that Tom, not the vague at all - I know what you're trying to get at! It's certainly another lead to chase up. I'm almost certain the gearbox/gearchange doesn't feel any different. Any the driveability of the car hasn't been affected either, which I thought it must have to do if it was DMF related. Which is why it's so confuddling!

I'll mention this boost pipe issue to my garage man on Monday, certainly

Cheers,
Steve

Tom_vRS · 15-11-2006, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardy

Thanks for that Tom, not the vague at all - I know what you're trying to get at! It's certainly another lead to chase up. I'm almost certain the gearbox/gearchange doesn't feel any different. Any the driveability of the car hasn't been affected either, which I thought it must have to do if it was DMF related. Which is why it's so confuddling!

I'll mention this boost pipe issue to my garage man on Monday, certainly

Cheers,
Steve

Matt is going to take a photo of his engine bay and highlight the rogue pipe...

Wardy · 15-11-2006, 15:18

Great stuff Tom, thanks - much appreciated.

Steve

**TaviaRS** · 15-11-2006, 16:16

YAY! Mine has started doing it. I thought it was turbo or zorst related. Best description is (on mine) that it sounds almost like when yoiu have an earthing fault. Starts at about 1800 rpm and never goes away. Only when on boost.

I guessed it wasn't turbo as its been doing it for 3k miles.

Any idea which pipe and where it is? Also what is the replacement part number?

AwesomeSarah · 15-11-2006, 16:31

Actually , that sounds a good point!!!
The problem is actually locating it , but then it sounds like the hard work of locating it has lalready been done.
What a great forum this is!!!
Nice one chaps
Fingers crossed Wardy
Sarah

Tom_vRS · 15-11-2006, 16:38

I know Matt has been to and from the dealers for 20k miles, but trial and error has eventually traced it!

Tom_vRS · 15-11-2006, 16:39

jon, I have to say that what you say you are experiencing doesnt sound similar??

Dave_Fox · 15-11-2006, 17:27

Mines done this for ages (obviously not an Ibiza lol). Its had a new turbo, because it was thought the first one was making this noise. But no, its back

Pi$$es me off aswell...

Dont want to take it back to the dealers so im stuck with it.

Wardy · 15-11-2006, 17:41

Well I never - didn't know other people were having similar issues. Hopefully you can get it sorted then Dave, if you help them to look in the right direction

In Tavia's case, it does sound *slightly* different, as the noise on mine seems to tail off in you keep your foot in past 3k. What was concerning me is that I've noticed it below boost this week, so started to rule out boost pipe/turbo area. But maybe it's just the turbo starting to ready itself? I've also noticed a slight vibration at tickover. Very slight and not at every start, which made me worry about the flywheel again. Anyone know what that might be?

And yes Sarah, this is indeed an excellent forum!

Steve

Dave_Fox · 15-11-2006, 19:59

I havn't a clue what it is/what it might be/where its coming from...

And I dont want my car taken to bits (again) causing even more rattles

Mine also tails off past 3k so it must be the same problem. Thats why I thought it was a fault with my turbo because thats where max boost is, isn't it. But if a new turbo didnt cure it then

Would be good if a fix was found

Octygone · 15-11-2006, 20:37

Got exactly the same problem on my superb...comes from the right hand side of the engine on boost ...sounds intake or exhaust related but garage could find nothing ..suggested turbo may be on the way out ...but wait and see if it gets worse

I have taken the whole air box apart and then changed the K&N to a normal filter ..this made it a bit quieter ..which still makes me think it is intake related

Wardy · 15-11-2006, 20:47

It's funny people have this similar problem but stay quiet!

I'll report back with any findings

Tom - is your mate on SCN or SCC? I could ask him directly about what he got sorted if you want?

Steve

Dave_Fox · 15-11-2006, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardy

It's funny people have this similar problem but stay quiet!

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/ask-tech/buzz/55700/

10-10-2006, 00:59	#1
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) This started happening last week, randomly. Drove car to gym, was fine. 2hrs later, drove home on the same route and did this from the off. Can best be described as a buzzing or vibration noise, only from 1800/1900rpm onwards, most noticeable when 'making progress'. Almost seems induction based, but seems unlikely as I'm pretty sure it's coming from the right-hand side of the engine bay (from the view of sitting in the car). Boost pipe perhaps? Car is remapped, with PD160 intake and Green panel filter. There's been no performance degredation since it started. It's in for service and cambelt within the next fortnight (hopefully) and will get it looked at then anyway. Was just after a few ideas about it before then. It sounds quite nice in a strange way, but I know it shouldn't be doing it really! Thanks, Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

10-10-2006, 14:25	#2
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,915 Thanks: 77 Thanked 352 Times in 326 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) DMF prehaps as my fathers focus made these vibrations along with other things. Not sure which side the flywheel is on on the PD130 though so sorry. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

11-10-2006, 01:01	#3
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Cheers, did think of this but wouldn't that vibrate more often, i.e. not starting when boost comes online? Perhaps when moving off as well? Anyone else? Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

11-10-2006, 15:15	#4
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,915 Thanks: 77 Thanked 352 Times in 326 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) No idea mate, could just be resonating at certain frequencies or as the torque starts to come through properly. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

15-11-2006, 13:52	#5
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) - any more ideas people? I had the service and belts done two weeks ago, no problems highlighted at all. Had it on the RR at Awesome too, and mentioned this to them, but nothing was reported back. I'm dropping it back into the garage on Monday for them to do a proper shakedown/roadtest, see if they can track down the source... Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

15-11-2006, 14:39	#6
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,788 Thanks: 573 Thanked 362 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Steve, DMF vibrations seem to come through the gearbox, quite a dull noise, so I dont think this is what you're experiencing. The noise you are describing sounds just like what my mate is having in his FR. Its a boost pipe at the back of the engine rattling against something, moving it across is a short term fix. He is having a modified part fitted under warranty, suggesting that this is a known problem? The modified hose attaches to something else to keep it in place... Sorry for being so vague, but hope it helps. FWIW, its quite a loud vibration, only really noticable when making progress, and fairly intermittant. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

15-11-2006, 14:43	#7
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,788 Thanks: 573 Thanked 362 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) After re-reading your post, I'm sure this is the same problem. I'll ask Matt (FR owner) for more details... __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

15-11-2006, 14:44	#8
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Thanks for that Tom, not the vague at all - I know what you're trying to get at! It's certainly another lead to chase up. I'm almost certain the gearbox/gearchange doesn't feel any different. Any the driveability of the car hasn't been affected either, which I thought it must have to do if it was DMF related. Which is why it's so confuddling! I'll mention this boost pipe issue to my garage man on Monday, certainly Cheers, Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

15-11-2006, 15:18	#10
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Great stuff Tom, thanks - much appreciated. Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

15-11-2006, 16:16	#11
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,918 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) YAY! Mine has started doing it. I thought it was turbo or zorst related. Best description is (on mine) that it sounds almost like when yoiu have an earthing fault. Starts at about 1800 rpm and never goes away. Only when on boost. I guessed it wasn't turbo as its been doing it for 3k miles. Any idea which pipe and where it is? Also what is the replacement part number? __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

15-11-2006, 16:31	#12
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,513 Thanks: 29 Thanked 147 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Actually , that sounds a good point!!! The problem is actually locating it , but then it sounds like the hard work of locating it has lalready been done. What a great forum this is!!! Nice one chaps Fingers crossed Wardy Sarah

15-11-2006, 16:38	#13
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,788 Thanks: 573 Thanked 362 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) I know Matt has been to and from the dealers for 20k miles, but trial and error has eventually traced it! __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

15-11-2006, 16:39	#14
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,788 Thanks: 573 Thanked 362 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) jon, I have to say that what you say you are experiencing doesnt sound similar?? __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

15-11-2006, 17:27	#15
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Mines done this for ages (obviously not an Ibiza lol). Its had a new turbo, because it was thought the first one was making this noise. But no, its back Pi$$es me off aswell... Dont want to take it back to the dealers so im stuck with it.

15-11-2006, 17:41	#16
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Well I never - didn't know other people were having similar issues. Hopefully you can get it sorted then Dave, if you help them to look in the right direction In Tavia's case, it does sound slightly different, as the noise on mine seems to tail off in you keep your foot in past 3k. What was concerning me is that I've noticed it below boost this week, so started to rule out boost pipe/turbo area. But maybe it's just the turbo starting to ready itself? I've also noticed a slight vibration at tickover. Very slight and not at every start, which made me worry about the flywheel again. Anyone know what that might be? And yes Sarah, this is indeed an excellent forum! Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

15-11-2006, 19:59	#17
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) I havn't a clue what it is/what it might be/where its coming from... And I dont want my car taken to bits (again) causing even more rattles Mine also tails off past 3k so it must be the same problem. Thats why I thought it was a fault with my turbo because thats where max boost is, isn't it. But if a new turbo didnt cure it then Would be good if a fix was found

15-11-2006, 20:37	#18
Octygone Old Git Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,578 Thanks: 179 Thanked 103 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) Got exactly the same problem on my superb...comes from the right hand side of the engine on boost ...sounds intake or exhaust related but garage could find nothing ..suggested turbo may be on the way out ...but wait and see if it gets worse I have taken the whole air box apart and then changed the K&N to a normal filter ..this made it a bit quieter ..which still makes me think it is intake related Last edited by Octygone; 15-11-2006 at 20:45.

15-11-2006, 20:47	#19
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,656 Thanks: 376 Thanked 262 Times in 251 Posts	Re: Vibration from 'on boost' onwards (PD130) It's funny people have this similar problem but stay quiet! I'll report back with any findings Tom - is your mate on SCN or SCC? I could ask him directly about what he got sorted if you want? Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

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