Bleeding the brakes

nitro_warrior · 30-01-2006, 09:43

Changed the rear pads on the Octavia the other weekend but had to take the calliper off in the process. I wasn't too succesfull bleeding the system, it's ok but not as firm as it should be. What are the brake circuits on the Octavia and what order should the brakes be bled? I see from reading some other posts there is a bleed valve on the master cylinder too, I assume thats bled last?

Regards

mbames · 30-01-2006, 09:57

is there any actual need to bleed the brakes if your just changing pads? I normally just remove the res. cap, push the piston back in gently, slide in new pads and call it quits at that....

nitro_warrior · 30-01-2006, 14:54

Indeed not but I had to take the calliper off the car as I accidently let the piston go too far and let the seal come off the piston

. I couldn't get it back on in situ so took it off the car. Also discovered the pistons screw back in rather than just pushing in.

mbames · 30-01-2006, 15:48

Arh... my Pug 306 you screwed the pistons in on the rear, but not the fronts.... Dunno what the approved method is, but I used to think that you were meant to do them diagonally. Maybe say it is time to replace the brake fluid and bleed it through it pressurised kit.

nitro_warrior · 30-01-2006, 16:28

Thanks for the replies. I've been using an Eezibleed pressure kit, it's been pretty good in the past on other cars. Just think i'm missing something or not bleeding it in the right order on the old Octavia.

mbames · 30-01-2006, 17:12

Thats the kit my father uses... I was going to pop home and change my fluid in a few weeks time.

Smifffy 3 f's · 30-01-2006, 20:20

I used the eezibleed thing on mine. Started with the wheel furthest from the master cylinder, nsr then osr then nsf then osf. Worked OK on my Octy.

RallyeSport · 05-03-2006, 18:46

Is there any tricks to bleeding the brakes on the old fashioned way? Just the basic method, or the ignition have to be on or anything. I have bled many cars, but no one with modern ABS.

RallyeSport · 06-03-2006, 19:01

No special methods? What spec brake fluid is specified, dot4 or 5.1?

Lummox · 06-03-2006, 19:06

Nothing special required. DOT 4 is fitted as std.

If pumping the traditional way dont push the pedal all the way down, but for the matter of a few quid i'd get an ez bleed kit.

RallyeSport · 12-03-2006, 16:46

Can the piston on the rear calipers be pushed in or must it be screwed in?

Lummox · 12-03-2006, 17:17

It needs to be screwed in with the correct tool.

RallyeSport · 15-03-2006, 18:02

Do you know where I can get this tool?

On the left side, the shape was right, but the distance between them was too short.

30-01-2006, 09:43	#1
nitro_warrior Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bleeding the brakes Changed the rear pads on the Octavia the other weekend but had to take the calliper off in the process. I wasn't too succesfull bleeding the system, it's ok but not as firm as it should be. What are the brake circuits on the Octavia and what order should the brakes be bled? I see from reading some other posts there is a bleed valve on the master cylinder too, I assume thats bled last? Regards Last edited by nitro_warrior; 30-01-2006 at 09:55.

30-01-2006, 09:57	#2
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes is there any actual need to bleed the brakes if your just changing pads? I normally just remove the res. cap, push the piston back in gently, slide in new pads and call it quits at that....

30-01-2006, 14:54	#3
nitro_warrior Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Indeed not but I had to take the calliper off the car as I accidently let the piston go too far and let the seal come off the piston . I couldn't get it back on in situ so took it off the car. Also discovered the pistons screw back in rather than just pushing in.

30-01-2006, 15:48	#4
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Arh... my Pug 306 you screwed the pistons in on the rear, but not the fronts.... Dunno what the approved method is, but I used to think that you were meant to do them diagonally. Maybe say it is time to replace the brake fluid and bleed it through it pressurised kit.

30-01-2006, 16:28	#5
nitro_warrior Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Thanks for the replies. I've been using an Eezibleed pressure kit, it's been pretty good in the past on other cars. Just think i'm missing something or not bleeding it in the right order on the old Octavia.

30-01-2006, 17:12	#6
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Thats the kit my father uses... I was going to pop home and change my fluid in a few weeks time.

30-01-2006, 20:20	#7
Smifffy 3 f's Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lancashire Posts: 571 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes I used the eezibleed thing on mine. Started with the wheel furthest from the master cylinder, nsr then osr then nsf then osf. Worked OK on my Octy. __________________ AL. I'm not bald, I've just got low-maintenance hair.

05-03-2006, 18:46	#8
RallyeSport Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Is there any tricks to bleeding the brakes on the old fashioned way? Just the basic method, or the ignition have to be on or anything. I have bled many cars, but no one with modern ABS.

06-03-2006, 19:01	#9
RallyeSport Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes No special methods? What spec brake fluid is specified, dot4 or 5.1?

06-03-2006, 19:06	#10
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Nothing special required. DOT 4 is fitted as std. If pumping the traditional way dont push the pedal all the way down, but for the matter of a few quid i'd get an ez bleed kit. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

12-03-2006, 16:46	#11
RallyeSport Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Can the piston on the rear calipers be pushed in or must it be screwed in?

12-03-2006, 17:17	#12
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,805 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes It needs to be screwed in with the correct tool. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

15-03-2006, 18:02	#13
RallyeSport Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bleeding the brakes Do you know where I can get this tool? On the left side, the shape was right, but the distance between them was too short.

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