Ender

Had a full system fitted today, I have been uming and arring for months on what system to get as I do alot of motorway miles and generaly drive alot, I settled on blue flame because of decent reports and price, the full system cost me 515 + postage so cheep I think.

When I started her up after i got the car back it was deeper but hardly noticable over standard just deeper, When I pulled away it just peacefully burbled off, I went down the motorway and it was peaceful at cruising speeds but when you open it up it unleashes a very nice note and not at all loud.

I have lost power I think due to it be fitted but Mike at Impossible will tweak my map for me a week saturday whilst he fits my FSD's So ill get the power then.

The DTM tip looks smashing and the car is still very much a stealth bomber Im pleased with it and soooooo recomend this system, bang for pounds wise Nothing comes close.

Still its another thing off my list

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ABD racing CAI --- ABD racing TIP --- Forge DV --- Blue flame full sytem --- Koni FSD's --- Bosch aero twins --- Fuel 4 5 Stud - 18" --- Milotek 3 grill set --- Milotek bonnet lifters --- Eibach springs --- Impossible Performance custom remap

'Impossible' is Nothing

martziniuk

I thought performance exhausts gave you more power not less.Is it possible that the ECU will need time to adjust?

KenONeill

I'm not convinced that a sports zorst makes much odds either way by itself with a turbo, because the turbo drops back pressure (by taking enengy out of the exhaust gases), so you don't get much extra flow unless the standard system is already overloaded. What it does give you is the potential for a significantly higher flow.

Ender

Nah i lost power because my car was mapped to suit the exacts of the old setup, now I have changed an integral part so the balance is off, but as said when Mike tweaks the map i'll pull back what I lossed and some.

Getting a less restrictive Exhaust system(full) if done correctly always gives a nice boost in power and torgue, A decent exhaust beats filters and tips and the such on its own for power gains, However when your car is mapped even putting the wrong petrol in it will have an adverse effect thats why tuners offer tweaking of maps as your project develops, one of the ideas with a map is to optimise everything thats why we change Air filters-TIPS-forced induction and any other choke points, coincidently IP offer the 1st map tweak for free! so im chuffed with that!.

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ABD racing CAI --- ABD racing TIP --- Forge DV --- Blue flame full sytem --- Koni FSD's --- Bosch aero twins --- Fuel 4 5 Stud - 18" --- Milotek 3 grill set --- Milotek bonnet lifters --- Eibach springs --- Impossible Performance custom remap

'Impossible' is Nothing

yellotaxi

You only loose power when choosing a poor system make (sorry)
If you wanted power and quality you should have chosen MILTEK or Supersprint Racing for your car, B/flame don't do any development work atall to optimize any of there systems. unless your kicking out 350-400 the poor internal design they have does't matter

My vrs fitted with miltek cat and supersrint mid/rear and a bmc cda got 201hp

Wayne Kerr

You been talking to the "Beretta" person?

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Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif!

KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted.
Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

Ender

Well us lads who use the same tuning house usealy do disscuss

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ABD racing CAI --- ABD racing TIP --- Forge DV --- Blue flame full sytem --- Koni FSD's --- Bosch aero twins --- Fuel 4 5 Stud - 18" --- Milotek 3 grill set --- Milotek bonnet lifters --- Eibach springs --- Impossible Performance custom remap

'Impossible' is Nothing

Beretta

Perhaps you should get in touch with Nigel at Blueflame and tell him your comments about his systems, I'm sure he would love to hear them, or perhaps you can tell us all how you arrive at these conclusions?

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Skoda performance was "IMPOSSIBLE", now its Japanese and 177 bhp and 295 lb ft torque of SMOG.
Gerry
"HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE"

mattbeef

yea id also love to know how you know know that because correct me if im wrong but i though TVR use BF as their choice of OEM system?

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I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque

Go on click me you know you want to

yellotaxi

Ok i admit that on turbo'd cars internal flow is not on the priority list due to turbo taken up a lot of the flow But

Universal systems have not been designed with that one single engine in mind.
It has not been designed to optimized that engine for both power and torque so therefore is not and can can not be classed as quality in comparison to main brands like e.g Supersprint who actually built from the ground up not just picking a box size of the shelve and welding it up, and dyno over 1000 systems a year for many manufacturers and race teams world wide and have many patents to stop copying.

I would also not think to much into TVR as

1 there a V8 not a 4cyl so you could put scaffolding pipes on them and they would still got like the clappers
2 they dont make them anymore
3 they are one of the most unreliable sport cars out there
4 For having a LandRover V8 with that exhaust sound cra* compaired to a std RangeRovers v8 rummble unless doing 7000rpm all the time
5 poor built quality

B/flame and the like are good if its for custom show cars where looks are more important or where no one else does it they can be usfull, but are not the same as Miltec scoprion Supersrint ect ect and that is fact which has been proven for 50 years

dewaryboy

hi yellow taxi u ave to remember that suspersprint are near enough twice the price of blueflame,i still have the standard exhaust on my octy vrs,but will be putting a sports one on shortly,had a miltek on my leon cupra,wasnt that impressed with how it fitted,very close to rear axle,had a supersprint on my mk2 golf gti many moons ago,was impressed with it both sound wise and fit wise,so may go for 1,so where did u get ur supersprint frm,as im in fife 2.star performance by any chance?

Beretta

As you have never been to the Blueflame factory, I cannot see how you can imply that they are a one size fits all, as each one is designed for a particular model, and fitted as such, and just because someone has been around for fifty years does not mean that a newcomer has an inferior product.

Many on here, including myself have them fitted and cannot fault them, with a proven increase in BHP and responce.
Just one question, you state that others such as Miltec are far superior due to their research and development. Perhaps then you can explain how most of their Octy vRS systems had a problem with resonance, and please dont deny it, as I have been in three that made it hard to stay in the car at certain revs. Also do a search as its mentioned on here.

Anyway, another question if I may, how many Octy vRS's have you been in that are fitted with Blueflame systems, or is just based on what "Dave, down the pub reckons?"

Anyway, as already stated, if you feel strong enough to make these kind of statements about Blueflame on a public forum, then I am sure that Nigel at Blueflame would always discuss it with you.

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Skoda performance was "IMPOSSIBLE", now its Japanese and 177 bhp and 295 lb ft torque of SMOG.
Gerry
"HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE"

Wayne Kerr

Blimey ,,,, bag of worms has been Well and Truly stirred here!

40/30 is the game score, yellow taxi, your service to save the set.

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Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif!

KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted.
Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

Ender

All I did was fit a new zorst lol

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Mods-
ABD racing CAI --- ABD racing TIP --- Forge DV --- Blue flame full sytem --- Koni FSD's --- Bosch aero twins --- Fuel 4 5 Stud - 18" --- Milotek 3 grill set --- Milotek bonnet lifters --- Eibach springs --- Impossible Performance custom remap

'Impossible' is Nothing

Wayne Kerr

40/30 says you fitted the correct one mate, as did I.

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Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif!

KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted.
Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

yellotaxi

I'd expect anyone who has been to a manufacturer factory or has connections there to be a 100% advocate for the products on offer.

I work in the motor trade supplying aftermarket products, so have numerous years of customer reports and my own experiences to call on, these have prooved invaluable in the past. Like with anything else, stick with what you know :0) and each to their own

Dewaryboy - I purchased my Miltek cat from Jim at Star Performance and my supersprint mid-rear at Essport in Dunfermline

Wayne Kerr

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Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif!

KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted.
Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

Ender

At the end of the day, My car is not going to be a 300+BHP its a daily driver for me, after alot of research and asking around I chose BF simply because they are half the price, comparable performance gains and most importantly for me half the noise.

I like it, it sits perfect reqiures no cutting and does not knock anywhere and the DTM tip looks the bussiness.

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Mods-
ABD racing CAI --- ABD racing TIP --- Forge DV --- Blue flame full sytem --- Koni FSD's --- Bosch aero twins --- Fuel 4 5 Stud - 18" --- Milotek 3 grill set --- Milotek bonnet lifters --- Eibach springs --- Impossible Performance custom remap

'Impossible' is Nothing

Snoopie

1. That has no effect on how Blueflame's performance exhausts perform.
2. Company went bankrupt, not due to Blueflame's exhausts.
3. The engine problems, had nothing to do with the Exhausts.
4. Sound is personal taste.
5. The Welding is 'ok,' but apart from that, I've not seen one complaint on Briskoda due to their poor manufacturing.

How's the hole? Deeper?

Ender

Funily enough, I took my system to a mechanics to fit and he complimented the welds and build quality of the system saying it must of cost me 700+ he was shocked to find i payed 515 all in lol.

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ABD racing CAI --- ABD racing TIP --- Forge DV --- Blue flame full sytem --- Koni FSD's --- Bosch aero twins --- Fuel 4 5 Stud - 18" --- Milotek 3 grill set --- Milotek bonnet lifters --- Eibach springs --- Impossible Performance custom remap

'Impossible' is Nothing

Beretta

I have no connections with Blueflame, nor do I work there

Game Set and Match to Blueflame

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Skoda performance was "IMPOSSIBLE", now its Japanese and 177 bhp and 295 lb ft torque of SMOG.
Gerry
"HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE"

KenONeill

Em, three (that I know of, maybe more) of my mates ran TVRs as daily drivers for several years each, without any issues other than bigger service bills than I was getting. The "unreliable TVR" thing only appears to affect the Guild of Muttering Rotters, and people who lock the car up in a Carcoon for 11 months, then expect to be able to get it out and thrash it from cold without a recommissioning service.

Wayne Kerr

Sounds like the Guild of blokes that run them to Le Mans!

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Deli G ,,,, leader of the Peckham Massif!

KW Coilovers fitted, Forge TIP fitted, KK fitted, Blueflame full system fitted, CAI fitted, Forge 007 D/V fitted, PBVH4 fitted, Forge adjustable rear tie bars fitted, FMIC fitted, 312's fitted, Tints fitted.
Was that a 4x4 Skoda??? It's IMPOSSIBLE! 197.2 BHP & 263.1Nm

KenONeill

The "Guild of Muttering Rotters" is what the (real) organisation the "Guild of Motoring Writers" jokingly refer to themselves as.