Broken Spring

NascarMike · 12-04-2006, 17:59

Took the car off the driveway this morning and there was a loud bang from the front passenger side.

AA arrived (awfully nice man!!!!) and the front spring, near side front has broken.

Contacted Euro carparts, only do the rear ones and GSF don't do them either.

Really strange!!!

Contacted the dealer, £55 and will be about a 1 week for a delivery. What !!!

The car is an Octavia 2001 TDI Elagance (110 bhp)model, has anyone any ideas about obtaining a pair of springs, will a set from say a Golf or Bora TDI model fit or Toledo, Leon model fit.

Any help will be appreciated, I would prefer just a standard set,

Cheers in advance for any info

Lummox · 12-04-2006, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by NascarMike

Contacted the dealer, £55 and will be about a 1 week for a delivery. What !!!

Probably due to the bank holiday. Also depends if Skoda have them in stock at the warehouse they might be back ordered.

If they are in stock at the warehouse they should get day after next on a normal week. Next day if you pay extra.

AwesomeSarah · 13-04-2006, 08:43

On the Octavia there are 42 different springs to choose from.
They are the same as other models.
But as the whole of the parts dept for the AVG group are based together , if they are not available for the Skoda it will be the same for the rst of the gruop.
Sorry
Have you thought about a set of other springs and replace both the front?
We do a set of Apex springs for your car for £61.50 + VAT
That would be for the set of 4
Sarah

**VRStu** · 13-04-2006, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwesomeSarah

Have you thought about a set of other springs and replace both the front?

It's good practice to replace both at the same time anyway.

I know you probably hadn't budgeted for it to happen but as your car is 2001 it may also be worth considering replacing the front shock absorbers and top bearings too. The labour cost should be the same for the spring and shock absorber as it is for the spring alone. Genuine shock absorbers will be around £60 each and the top bearing around £5 each.

Just thinking of preventative rather than reactive maintenance and saving money in the long term.

AwesomeSarah · 13-04-2006, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

It's good practice to replace both at the same time anyway.

I know you probably hadn't budgeted for it to happen but as your car is 2001 it may also be worth considering replacing the front shock absorbers and top bearings too. The labour cost should be the same for the spring and shock absorber as it is for the spring alone. Genuine shock absorbers will be around £60 each and the top bearing around £5 each.

Just thinking of preventative rather than reactive maintenance and saving money in the long term.

Mmm
I must admit I would agree with that.
I have seen quite a few shockers leaking at around 40k and have even done warranty claims on these before.
It is a shame , but what he is saying is correct.
Sorry Mate
Sarah

mbames · 13-04-2006, 15:16

Mmmm, mine (2001 110TDi estate) seems be a bit clonky at the front when going over speed bumps and things. Maybe I need to consider a change as well.

I had to replace the shocks on the GF's felicia and that was a nightmare. Mr Haynes said remove hub clamp bolt..... he meant to say: drill, heat, angle grind, swear, beat with hammer for 2 days, snap titanium drill bit and use hacksaw...

NascarMike · 13-04-2006, 20:26

Thanks for all the info, the man from the AA picked the car up this morning and took it to a garage that I know and trust.

They have done the job today (and delivered the car back to my house - what service) which is fantastic news as I needed the car over Easter and the cost to replace the front 2 coil springs was £160 all in, which I think is OK considering it only broke last night and if I had to book it in at a dealership I would be looking at being without my car for about a week.

If I had more time and to plan things (which I didn't) I probably would have taken your advice, but at the end of the day, it's needs and musts.

If anyone out there needs a decent garage that is honest and trustworthy in the South Manchester area, you can PM me and I will advise you of their location

Quinten · 18-04-2006, 13:23

Hmm, scary moment here. After speaking to piv34uk, I suspect I may have the same problem today. Was driving on the A41 at a leisurely 70mph this morning when there was this almighty bang coming from somwhere underneath the engine which I could feel in the steering wheel. I checked my mirrors to see if anything had been on the road, but didnt see anything, so I put it down to a rock bouncing off the lower strut brace. Then at the end of my 60 mile journey I went to get some cash out of a machine and when I reversed out of my parking space there was the sound of a spring 'springing'. Not knowing any mechanics I stepped out of the car and went to look underneath it to see if it happened to be the strut brace that had come undone, but nothing to see. Did a few full lock turns at slow speed and although the noise was there occasionally it did it on both sides, leaving me all puzzled. Had it on a jack at lunchtime and had a feel around the wheelarches on both sides, but again, did not spot anything so resorted to my last hope... the mechanics

I just hope it doesnt break down on my way to the garage this afternoon to see what is wrong with it (speaking to Phil, he reckons it can be the spring(s) which has snapped). Car is a Octy RS on a '51 plate, with 115k on the clock.

**VRStu** · 18-04-2006, 17:42

Any news Q?

Quinten · 18-04-2006, 19:22

Yup

Put it on the bridge at Phil's and sure enough, the top part of the driver side front (NSF? OSF? Never been able to tell which is which) spring was broken off. Got the broken off piece as a souvenir on my desk at the moment

Now to decide how to resolve... New springs, new springs+dampers, used springs+dampers, eibach springs, kw's... the list goes on

**VRStu** · 18-04-2006, 20:43

Either way it's gonna cost you!!!

May as well get something special now eh

Quinten · 18-04-2006, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Either way it's gonna cost you!!!

gcr31463 · 19-04-2006, 00:01

hi all

just jumping in with a related query ...

i'm running a 99 Octy TDI 90 thats done 80k.
Car is totally standard except ...

just had some AVO adjustable dampers fitted.
the handling is much better, however,
the noise on pot-holed back roads (or city ones too)
is much worse than expected

on the motorway or smooth a road,
ride is as quiet as before

swmbo commented at the weekend on a scenic drive,
is there something wrong with the car its much noisier

any thoughts? other than turning the stereo up?

cheers ... darren

Quinten · 19-04-2006, 08:44

TKW · 19-04-2006, 08:55

This seems to be a fairly common fault

I remember Honest John writing about it some six months ago (which coincided with another batch on this site!).

sman · 19-04-2006, 11:07

Yup...looks familiar to me too...'01 vRS with 70k on the clock. Mine went a few weeks back going over a speedbump at no more than 10mph. Looks like yours snapped almost exactly the same place as mine (also got the souvenir!).

My garage had a few hassles getting replacements as well. Just a bit gutted I didn't consider getting the shocks done at the same time now I've read this thread

***DGW*** · 19-04-2006, 11:09

I had a similar problem with an original Passat years ago. After paying to have the springs replaced, I found out that VW were aware of the problem and had been replacing the springs FOC for those who complained to them.

**VRStu** · 19-04-2006, 13:19

I must say I would be tempted to give Skoda a call, there is plenty of evidence on here of serial failures.

gcr31463 · 19-04-2006, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcr31463

i'm running a 99 Octy TDI 90 thats done 80k.
Car is totally standard except ...

just had some AVO adjustable dampers fitted.
the handling is much better, however,
the noise on pot-holed back roads (or city ones too)
is much worse than expected

on the motorway or smooth a road,
ride is as quiet as before

bit of an update

a mate has taken the car for a spin this evening
he's concluded that ...
(i) back left is noisiest
(ii) then front left
(iii) each corner of the car has been set differently
(iv) my trackings out (pulls to left)

a trip back to garage tomoro

Star · 19-04-2006, 22:56

My Octavia 4x4 1.8 Estate is in the garage awaiting rear spring delivery tomorrow. I miss it already!!!!!!

Star · 21-04-2006, 17:14

Well - here I am waiting for a rear spring. Apparently none available but on back order - will take approx 1 week.

NascarMike · 21-04-2006, 21:37

The photo of the broken spring is almost identical to mine.

I could honestly say it was mine,

Is there a problem with them OR is it just a case that our roads are just getting worse, not getting repaired and then we have the dreaded sleeping policemen.

Anyway, it just costs us motorists money, ALL THE TIME

Quinten · 21-04-2006, 22:54

Mine is going in for surgery tomorrow... must... not... forget... to... tip... the... doctor

Star · 28-04-2006, 09:25

Well still waiting for rear spring to be delivered - ordered on 21.4.06 by my garage. Anyone got a phone number to complain to?

AwesomeSarah · 28-04-2006, 09:38

0845 7745745 is Customer Care number.
You could try that?
Sarah

12-04-2006, 17:59	#1
NascarMike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 87 Members Car: Skoda Octavia 1.9TDI Elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Broken Spring Took the car off the driveway this morning and there was a loud bang from the front passenger side. AA arrived (awfully nice man!!!!) and the front spring, near side front has broken. Contacted Euro carparts, only do the rear ones and GSF don't do them either. Really strange!!! Contacted the dealer, £55 and will be about a 1 week for a delivery. What !!! The car is an Octavia 2001 TDI Elagance (110 bhp)model, has anyone any ideas about obtaining a pair of springs, will a set from say a Golf or Bora TDI model fit or Toledo, Leon model fit. Any help will be appreciated, I would prefer just a standard set, Cheers in advance for any info

13-04-2006, 08:43	#3
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,032 Members Car: Thanks: 36 Thanked 196 Times in 175 Posts	Re: Broken Spring On the Octavia there are 42 different springs to choose from. They are the same as other models. But as the whole of the parts dept for the AVG group are based together , if they are not available for the Skoda it will be the same for the rst of the gruop. Sorry Have you thought about a set of other springs and replace both the front? We do a set of Apex springs for your car for £61.50 + VAT That would be for the set of 4 Sarah

13-04-2006, 15:16	#6
mbames Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset Posts: 1,620 Members Car: Octavia 2001, 110TDi Elegance estate Thanks: 0 Thanked 71 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Mmmm, mine (2001 110TDi estate) seems be a bit clonky at the front when going over speed bumps and things. Maybe I need to consider a change as well. I had to replace the shocks on the GF's felicia and that was a nightmare. Mr Haynes said remove hub clamp bolt..... he meant to say: drill, heat, angle grind, swear, beat with hammer for 2 days, snap titanium drill bit and use hacksaw...

13-04-2006, 20:26	#7
NascarMike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 87 Members Car: Skoda Octavia 1.9TDI Elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Broken Spring Thanks for all the info, the man from the AA picked the car up this morning and took it to a garage that I know and trust. They have done the job today (and delivered the car back to my house - what service) which is fantastic news as I needed the car over Easter and the cost to replace the front 2 coil springs was £160 all in, which I think is OK considering it only broke last night and if I had to book it in at a dealership I would be looking at being without my car for about a week. If I had more time and to plan things (which I didn't) I probably would have taken your advice, but at the end of the day, it's needs and musts. If anyone out there needs a decent garage that is honest and trustworthy in the South Manchester area, you can PM me and I will advise you of their location

18-04-2006, 13:23	#8
Quinten Crossdresser Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,000 Members Car: Citroen C-Crosser 2.2HDI Thanks: 25 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Hmm, scary moment here. After speaking to piv34uk, I suspect I may have the same problem today. Was driving on the A41 at a leisurely 70mph this morning when there was this almighty bang coming from somwhere underneath the engine which I could feel in the steering wheel. I checked my mirrors to see if anything had been on the road, but didnt see anything, so I put it down to a rock bouncing off the lower strut brace. Then at the end of my 60 mile journey I went to get some cash out of a machine and when I reversed out of my parking space there was the sound of a spring 'springing'. Not knowing any mechanics I stepped out of the car and went to look underneath it to see if it happened to be the strut brace that had come undone, but nothing to see. Did a few full lock turns at slow speed and although the noise was there occasionally it did it on both sides, leaving me all puzzled. Had it on a jack at lunchtime and had a feel around the wheelarches on both sides, but again, did not spot anything so resorted to my last hope... the mechanics I just hope it doesnt break down on my way to the garage this afternoon to see what is wrong with it (speaking to Phil, he reckons it can be the spring(s) which has snapped). Car is a Octy RS on a '51 plate, with 115k on the clock. __________________ Awooga!!!

18-04-2006, 17:42	#9
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Any news Q? __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

18-04-2006, 19:22	#10
Quinten Crossdresser Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,000 Members Car: Citroen C-Crosser 2.2HDI Thanks: 25 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Yup Put it on the bridge at Phil's and sure enough, the top part of the driver side front (NSF? OSF? Never been able to tell which is which) spring was broken off. Got the broken off piece as a souvenir on my desk at the moment Now to decide how to resolve... New springs, new springs+dampers, used springs+dampers, eibach springs, kw's... the list goes on __________________ Awooga!!!

18-04-2006, 20:43	#11
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Either way it's gonna cost you!!! May as well get something special now eh __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

19-04-2006, 00:01	#13
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 745 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Broken Spring hi all just jumping in with a related query ... i'm running a 99 Octy TDI 90 thats done 80k. Car is totally standard except ... just had some AVO adjustable dampers fitted. the handling is much better, however, the noise on pot-holed back roads (or city ones too) is much worse than expected on the motorway or smooth a road, ride is as quiet as before swmbo commented at the weekend on a scenic drive, is there something wrong with the car its much noisier any thoughts? other than turning the stereo up? cheers ... darren

19-04-2006, 08:44	#14
Quinten Crossdresser Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,000 Members Car: Citroen C-Crosser 2.2HDI Thanks: 25 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Broken Spring __________________ Awooga!!!

19-04-2006, 08:55	#15
TKW Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 968 Members Car: Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Broken Spring This seems to be a fairly common fault I remember Honest John writing about it some six months ago (which coincided with another batch on this site!). __________________ Octavia 4x4

19-04-2006, 11:07	#16
sman Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 37 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Yup...looks familiar to me too...'01 vRS with 70k on the clock. Mine went a few weeks back going over a speedbump at no more than 10mph. Looks like yours snapped almost exactly the same place as mine (also got the souvenir!). My garage had a few hassles getting replacements as well. Just a bit gutted I didn't consider getting the shocks done at the same time now I've read this thread

19-04-2006, 11:09	#17
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,299 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 207 Times in 156 Posts	Re: Broken Spring I had a similar problem with an original Passat years ago. After paying to have the springs replaced, I found out that VW were aware of the problem and had been replacing the springs FOC for those who complained to them. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

19-04-2006, 13:19	#18
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Broken Spring I must say I would be tempted to give Skoda a call, there is plenty of evidence on here of serial failures. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

19-04-2006, 22:56	#20
Star Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 35 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Broken Spring My Octavia 4x4 1.8 Estate is in the garage awaiting rear spring delivery tomorrow. I miss it already!!!!!!

21-04-2006, 17:14	#21
Star Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 35 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Well - here I am waiting for a rear spring. Apparently none available but on back order - will take approx 1 week.

21-04-2006, 21:37	#22
NascarMike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 87 Members Car: Skoda Octavia 1.9TDI Elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Broken Spring The photo of the broken spring is almost identical to mine. I could honestly say it was mine, Is there a problem with them OR is it just a case that our roads are just getting worse, not getting repaired and then we have the dreaded sleeping policemen. Anyway, it just costs us motorists money, ALL THE TIME

21-04-2006, 22:54	#23
Quinten Crossdresser Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,000 Members Car: Citroen C-Crosser 2.2HDI Thanks: 25 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Mine is going in for surgery tomorrow... must... not... forget... to... tip... the... doctor __________________ Awooga!!!

28-04-2006, 09:25	#24
Star Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 35 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Broken Spring Well still waiting for rear spring to be delivered - ordered on 21.4.06 by my garage. Anyone got a phone number to complain to?

28-04-2006, 09:38	#25
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,032 Members Car: Thanks: 36 Thanked 196 Times in 175 Posts	Re: Broken Spring 0845 7745745 is Customer Care number. You could try that? Sarah

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