Getting ready for new Tyres

primey · 17-02-2005, 14:02

My car is now getting ready for some new rear tyres, but since my front ones offer such pathetic grip (dry and wet) I've decide to change all 4 courners in one go.

What are the best tyres to get? Toyo Proxy's seem to be a popular mention so was wondering what people thought about the choice of tyre to make, and what are the costs likely to be for wopping on some grippy rubber.

**TaviaRS** · 17-02-2005, 14:21

Depends what you want.

Have a look in the review section here for people's opinions.

Oh and it would take an exceptional tyre for me to mark 9 or 10. Toyos are a good budget tyre, but IMHO are not as good as the Neros, but do offer better value for money.

ecklad · 17-02-2005, 15:38

I highly recommend the Toyo.. I ran a set of T1-S for 21K of fairly hard road driving... I've just replaced them with a set of T1-R which are quieter and
even grippier in the wet and salt crud conditions...

T1-S £73 + VAT fitted

T1-R £79 + VAT fitted

The Nero might be a better tyre but the cost of this + others put me off...

cheers

Dazz

nickg123 · 17-02-2005, 15:57

Pirelli P-Zero's or Rosso's (whatever they're called) are awesome - really make the car come to life!

BMW M5's come with them as standard - i think that's gotta say something?

I drove my Dad's RS with them on, the car feels very nimble - i'd definitely recommend them!

Tavia4x4 · 17-02-2005, 16:31

I like the Toyo's but their wear is pretty poor....

Fantastic for standing water at 70 on Mways tho, very stable.

Have recently replaced them with Kumho Ecsta 712's - similar tread design, just as good if not better so far in torrential rain \ standing water.

Hopefully wear may be better, but if same then happy as they were much cheaper.

205/55/16 - used to pay £70 for Toyo, paid £51 for Kumho....

MisterGT · 17-02-2005, 16:43

[quote=Tavia4x4]I like the Toyo's but their wear is pretty poor....

QUOTE]

Agreed, the old T1-S used to wear pretty quick, especially on the front, however the new T1-R's are supposed to wear a lot better. Unfortunately as mine have only just been changed I can neither confirm nor deny this

nickg123 · 17-02-2005, 17:07

To be fair i've always thought of it as if a Tyre works/grips it's obviously going to wear out.......

If a tyre isn't wearing - it can't be working!

lozgti · 17-02-2005, 17:27

I have just had all four done at a cost of £388 inc VAT.

The tyres might be rubbish as I have never heard of them before.I have done a search,looked at the reviews and there is no mention of them anywhere.

The tyres are Kleber Dynaxers and everyone is probably laughing at me now

However the only other option I was given(was in a hurry!) were some Pirrellis that they wanted £150 each!!!(can't remember which ones)

Despite that it feels like a different car.Amazing what a bit of grip does and there is a ride comfort difference.

If anyone does know anything about Kleber would be interested to see a review.I was told there is a michelin connection

johnmb · 17-02-2005, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by primey

My car is now getting ready for some new rear tyres, but since my front ones offer such pathetic grip (dry and wet) I've decide to change all 4 courners in one go.

What are the best tyres to get? Toyo Proxy's seem to be a popular mention so was wondering what people thought about the choice of tyre to make, and what are the costs likely to be for wopping on some grippy rubber.

Is thid of any help from 2004 Auto Express ( see attached file )

ecklad · 17-02-2005, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickg123

Pirelli P-Zero's or Rosso's (whatever they're called) are awesome - really make the car come to life!

BMW M5's come with them as standard - i think that's gotta say something?

I drove my Dad's RS with them on, the car feels very nimble - i'd definitely recommend them!

Yes and Toyo's are used on TVR's...

Mileage was a problem or so it was thought for th T1-S.. Having got 21K out of my set I only had to change because I had not rotated them correctly meaning that I have still got two that have around 3mm tread on them..
I am going to put these on the 2 alloys I've got spare to use as track day tyres...

The only real problem with the T1-S were that they were noisy.. The new T1-R are considerably quieter..

Each to there own I think when it comes to tyre choice..

Ta

Dazz

Kentish · 17-02-2005, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozgti

I have just had all four done at a cost of £388 inc VAT.

The tyres might be rubbish as I have never heard of them before.I have done a search,looked at the reviews and their is no mention of them anywhere.

The tyres are Kleber Dynaxers and everyone is probably laughing at me now

However the only other option I was given(was in a hurry!) were some Pirrellis that they wanted £150 each!!!(can't remember which ones)

Despite that it feels like a different car.Amazing what a bit of grip does and their is a ride comfort difference.

If anyone does know anything about Kleber would be interested to see a review.I was told there is a michelin connection

We run our VW Transporters on Kleber as soon as possible. Cracking tyres.

primey · 17-02-2005, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmb

Is thid of any help from 2004 Auto Express ( see attached file )

I cant see an attached file.....

CupidStunt(Boro · 22-02-2005, 13:06

Just had Pirelli P6000's put on mine, a vast improvement on the SP9000's on previously and up there with the Contis that were originally fitted.

17-02-2005, 14:02	#1
primey Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 841 Members Car: Silver Octavia vRS Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Getting ready for new Tyres My car is now getting ready for some new rear tyres, but since my front ones offer such pathetic grip (dry and wet) I've decide to change all 4 courners in one go. What are the best tyres to get? Toyo Proxy's seem to be a popular mention so was wondering what people thought about the choice of tyre to make, and what are the costs likely to be for wopping on some grippy rubber. __________________ Paul My Car - Nightfire Blue Superb - 2.5 V6 TDi - Dark Leather Interior - Xenons - Serious Pimp Tints - Sat Nav - Detchable Towbar - Green Cotton Panel Filter - MINTEX Xtreme Performance Brake Pads - Chrome Wing Mirrors - 18" New RS4 Rims - Neuspeed Lower Rear ARB - Pipewerx Custom Stainless Exhaust with 200cel Cat - Custom Code PHASE II Remap - Huge Smile - Can my bank account keep up? ...

17-02-2005, 14:21	#2
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Depends what you want. Have a look in the review section here for people's opinions. Oh and it would take an exceptional tyre for me to mark 9 or 10. Toyos are a good budget tyre, but IMHO are not as good as the Neros, but do offer better value for money. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

17-02-2005, 15:38	#3
ecklad Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Shamone Mother F*****r Hi Hi Posts: 727 Members Car: 2003 Skoda Octavia vRS, met Black... Standard Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I highly recommend the Toyo.. I ran a set of T1-S for 21K of fairly hard road driving... I've just replaced them with a set of T1-R which are quieter and even grippier in the wet and salt crud conditions... T1-S £73 + VAT fitted T1-R £79 + VAT fitted The Nero might be a better tyre but the cost of this + others put me off... cheers Dazz __________________ Blackadder Quote of the Year ! ( I don't change it often) Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is? Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron. 03 reg Magic Black Octavia vRS, standard well apart from, Pagid FR pads, 225x45x17 Toyo Proxies T1-R.

17-02-2005, 16:31	#5
Tavia4x4 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: J5 M61 Posts: 5,294 Members Car: Octavia 4x4 - aka "The Ambulance" Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I like the Toyo's but their wear is pretty poor.... Fantastic for standing water at 70 on Mways tho, very stable. Have recently replaced them with Kumho Ecsta 712's - similar tread design, just as good if not better so far in torrential rain \ standing water. Hopefully wear may be better, but if same then happy as they were much cheaper. 205/55/16 - used to pay £70 for Toyo, paid £51 for Kumho.... __________________ Ian __________________ Nice to be important, but more important to be nice...

17-02-2005, 17:27	#8
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,722 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	I have just had all four done at a cost of £388 inc VAT. The tyres might be rubbish as I have never heard of them before.I have done a search,looked at the reviews and there is no mention of them anywhere. The tyres are Kleber Dynaxers and everyone is probably laughing at me now However the only other option I was given(was in a hurry!) were some Pirrellis that they wanted £150 each!!!(can't remember which ones) Despite that it feels like a different car.Amazing what a bit of grip does and there is a ride comfort difference. If anyone does know anything about Kleber would be interested to see a review.I was told there is a michelin connection Last edited by lozgti; 18-02-2005 at 09:40.

17-02-2005, 15:57	#4
nickg123 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mid South Posts: 32 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pirelli P-Zero's or Rosso's (whatever they're called) are awesome - really make the car come to life! BMW M5's come with them as standard - i think that's gotta say something? I drove my Dad's RS with them on, the car feels very nimble - i'd definitely recommend them!

17-02-2005, 16:43	#6
MisterGT Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Okehampton Posts: 793 Members Car: Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	[quote=Tavia4x4]I like the Toyo's but their wear is pretty poor.... QUOTE] Agreed, the old T1-S used to wear pretty quick, especially on the front, however the new T1-R's are supposed to wear a lot better. Unfortunately as mine have only just been changed I can neither confirm nor deny this

17-02-2005, 17:07	#7
nickg123 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mid South Posts: 32 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To be fair i've always thought of it as if a Tyre works/grips it's obviously going to wear out....... If a tyre isn't wearing - it can't be working!

22-02-2005, 13:06	#13
CupidStunt(Boro Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Stockton on Tees Posts: 121 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS 1.8 T Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just had Pirelli P6000's put on mine, a vast improvement on the SP9000's on previously and up there with the Contis that were originally fitted. __________________ Howard proud to be a smog monster "Back off Brussels!" - Al Murray, The Guv'nor, never confused.

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