Lloyd55vrs

hmmmm? what the hell? ........ my mates vrs key unlock my bloody car lol
its off to be recoded but ...........
this has happend one b4 and my mum beetle key did it and skoda recomended that the beetle got recoded as it was going out of syn with the car or sumin ? ..........
that was ages ago, but now my mates key does it and im taking mine in to has it recoded ......
i just thought id mention this due to the fact that if it was for the clifford i wouldnt know it had ben unlocked...
when unlocked with the key the cliford goes ape s#it
otherwise id never have known?

a couple of time ive known other vag drivers to come back to unlocked cars thinking they forgot to lock thier cars? hmmmm WTF

the keys dont unock in the lock or start the car tho lol
but a new code none the less for me

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rwbaldwin

When you get the convenience controller reset, tell them how many keys you want coding. If you have two, then take both keys with you and check they both work.

Lloyd55vrs

yeah, will def get them to double check they work

still weird how it ended up like this?

i wonder if or how many other vag cars do it and havent been noticed?

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mattbeef

I noticed it when i was last at VW show in Leeds. Mine unlocked someone elses vRS. I did lock it after and walk away so no harm done

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Lloyd55vrs

makes you question tho?

and the chances of my mums new beetle and my mates vrs, hmmmm?

nice work skoda
and my warrenty ran out on the 29th of sep to

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richm

out of curiosity, if your mate unlocks it, and you leave it untouched, does it automatically re-lock after a minute or two?
In normal circumstances it should automatically relock if the doors aren't opened. If not then it's likely an indication that the convenience module has an issue..

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tsr2

I used to have a Maestro and they were notorious. I once locked my keys in at a campsite. The guy in the tent next door had a Maestro, so I borrowed has keys and let myself in with them :-)

Lloyd55vrs

i didnt really watch, i think it does when i do, i will try it later

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Lloyd55vrs

if i unlock it with my remote key it does lock again after abit of time
but if i unlock with the clifford fob then it doesnt.

hmmmm? dam octy

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mannyo

It should autolock with your mates key as well.

It wont with the clifford alarm fob however, because the convienience ecu has not unlocked the car, the clifford alarm control box has. It was the same with my old sigma alarm that had a separate fob.

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richm

however, if it is a Cat1 spec Clifford then it still should, as that is a thatcham Cat1 requirement.. but as said that is a seperate issue and purely down to the Clifford unit.

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Lloyd55vrs

i had auto lock turnt of the clifford, i cant remember if its cat1 , but um .... it caught me out

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richm

lol yeah Clifford autolock will relock even after the doors have been open I've been there too.. I think from memory the immobiliser function will still re-arm even if the autolock is turned off.

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Lloyd55vrs

yeah, its just the lock ive got turned off, dunno y i keep gettin probs of other vag keys opening mine?
least the clifford goes mad so i know

twice its done it, the new beetle and my mates vrs

hopefuly when recoded it wonat happen

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Lummox

They are rolling code remotes. So every now and again they will roll to the same code. Its a fluke that no one could count on so its a very low risk. Plus the key still wont start the car.

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rwbaldwin

The problem seems to occur when the number of enabled slots is greater than the number of remotes actually coded. IIRC the learning mode should only last for 15 seconds.

Seen this once myself but never got a chance to VAG-COM the convenience controller to see if it had learnt the other remote. Resetting the CC, setting the number of remotes to 1 and learning that correct remote did fix the problem. So I don't think the remotes had the same code.

rwbaldwin

Just seen this after I posted. When this problem occured the wrong remote continued to open my mates car over a period of days. The correct remote would not open the wrong car (hope this makes sense).

Lloyd55vrs

the main pain is if i havent got my own keys on me, if the car is unlocked with the key the cliffod goes awol cos of the voltage drop or change, it lets evryone know its not happy you havent turnt the alram off ... lol
least it alerts me that the car is unlocked

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Lloyd55vrs

hmm, been to skoda and they said no faults showed?
which means the half hour the had it is going to pos put me out of pocket 45 quid

they tried to say my mates car coudl be at fault? but being its happend b4 ...... surly with all the vw skoda audi n seats the chances of a mates key unlocking is beyond 100000s to 1 ?

im sure its nothing to do with the clifford as this stays armed.

all the characteristics that happens is tha same as if i open with the key myself

when my mates unlocks it it then lock after , but the clifford does not relock

surly it has to be my car being a git ?


unless my mates going to get the bad luck of his going going out of syn with this car?

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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When I worked in a dealership many years ago I noticed purely by chance that a brand new 1995 Cavalier in our showroom had the same key number as the 1986 Cavalier SRi I owned at the time. Sure enough the new car's key would unlock and start my car, but because of the new one having a factory fitted immobiliser and mine not, my key would not start the new one, even though it did unlock it.....

claytarget_god

**** thats quite scarey, think ill be gettin an alarm and tracker fitted to mine in the near future.

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Lloyd55vrs

it is bad really, how may of the vag cars are out there opening each other?

least with alram it goes APE****E when its unlocked by mine or anyone key.

my mates key doesnt start or unlock in the lock, its just the remote unlock , and if left it does lock like usual, still sucks tho

modern technology my ****!!!!!

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