Induction Kit Disapointment

apinner · 15-02-2007, 19:29

Well i fitted my fleabay induction kit this afternoon, and i have to say i was disappointed with the noise! I was expecting a real roar but you only hear anything when you blip the throttle from idle.. the DV however is much louder

Did anyone else find this??

I am also going to replace the filter that came with it for a better one.. its a bit cheap and nasty!

mluton · 15-02-2007, 20:17

I had a Carbonio CAI fitted on saturday with a Forge 007 DV at Awesome GTI. Wow the noise is amazing.

RobClubley · 15-02-2007, 20:35

I didn't think there was much more engine noise with the Carbonio, but there's a lot of air sucking sounds and the DV is MUCH louder

mluton · 15-02-2007, 20:39

If you get someone to drive your car past you, the sound is amazing. No as noticable in the car, very subtle inside.

piv34uk · 15-02-2007, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by mluton

I had a Carbonio CAI fitted on saturday with a Forge 007 DV at Awesome GTI. Wow the noise is amazing.

Just what i have been saying for the last couple of years

Phil

Timo · 16-02-2007, 00:20

My mate on here, has one, not sure what he calls himself on here. Anyway, he kept the supplied filter on it, and months later claims that he can't hear it anymore. Hoping to grab the pipe off him when he gets bored, and stick my k&n on it, should be nice for the summer weather.

pittVRS · 16-02-2007, 00:41

Nother vote for the Carbonio here. Mine was great. I found myself driving round the underground carpark at Meadowhall for hours with all the windows down. Grrrrrowl!

RobClubley · 16-02-2007, 02:15

Since fitting it I've had a bit of a hesitation at around 2000 rpm, and when going up hills at constant speed the car seems to get a little, er, confused somehow. Sucking in air then dumping the pressure - sounds a bit like Ivor the engine sometimes!

Does this sound normal or do I have a problem somewhere?

whitebakecase · 16-02-2007, 02:31

the problem you describe with hestation is the same problem I had with my 02 vrs just after I fitted my aftermarket filter, and it turned out to be two split hoses under the plastic engine cover, now replaced and back to former glory. coincidence? or maybe some subtle design fault along the line?

RobClubley · 16-02-2007, 02:33

Hmm why didn't I check for a boost leak. Will have a rummage in the engine tonight!

Cheers

mluton · 16-02-2007, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by pittVRS

Nother vote for the Carbonio here. Mine was great. I found myself driving round the underground carpark at Meadowhall for hours with all the windows down. Grrrrrowl!

I did this to, glad im not the only one. Didnt want to confess to it incase everyone thought i was a n00b.

Ch!lledBudwei2e · 16-02-2007, 20:27

Heres a quick clip we recorded after fitting the Carbonio too the car, but as side note now that I've had the car remapped and had a boost controller fitted the difference between the noise with vRS boost as standard and as mapped is like night and day. The clip is pre remap

http://www.rhodribaker.entadsl.com/Cars/carbonio.avi

RobClubley · 22-02-2007, 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebakecase

the problem you describe with hestation is the same problem I had with my 02 vrs just after I fitted my aftermarket filter, and it turned out to be two split hoses under the plastic engine cover, now replaced and back to former glory. coincidence? or maybe some subtle design fault along the line?

Checked it a couple of nights ago - the Y-shaped hose in the right of this pic had come a little loose - I re-crimped the factory clip so it was tight again and it all seems much better now.

Goochie · 22-02-2007, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by piv34uk

Just what i have been saying for the last couple of years

Phil

Having been in Phil's car I can confirm that this conbination sounds a lot nicer than the cheapo EBay thing which, was just loud/noisy rather than pleasant.

FocusZtec · 22-02-2007, 09:32

Yet another vote for the carbonio here too - installed it over the weekend and it sounds glorious! Well, as already said its actually more the recirc valve that you hear more but its a great bit of kit.

AwesomeSarah · 22-02-2007, 12:02

Oooh Carbonio
Sorry , you just knew I was going to come in with that
I love these and I must admit , my son has a different CAI on and it does not sound as good as the Carbonio , but hey he is pleased with it
I drove it down the street for him , and every time it had a little growl......mmmm

Sarah

Morley · 22-02-2007, 13:44

I must be getting old or something. I thought the whole point of an induction kit was to increase the flow of air into the engine, thus allowing more fuel to be added to the mix. More fuel + more air = more power. Surely this is what you are all really trying to achieve and I'm all up for that. Any additional induction noise might be seen as a desirable side effect, but surely not a benefit?

You should also be wary of "cheap" airfilters because if they are letting more air through the chances are they are letting in a lot more dirt. Many companies advertise filters with improved air flow without letting in more rubbish, but I would be a little scepticle. Maybe the K&N's and Pipercross's of this world would be better at keeping out the dirt whilst improving airflo but you are paying a premium for this.

I guess this is all OK for the MaxPower readers amongst you driving around the block with you baseball caps on backwards but on long journeys excessive induction roar becomes wearing and intrusive.

jpd · 22-02-2007, 15:06

I also have the old fleabay item, sounds ok but was not impressed with the fit. By the looks of it i will be going for the carbonio in a couple of months when I get some spare coin.

Steevie Wonder · 23-02-2007, 13:46

ABD Racing c.a.i up for good price.

pm me if interested.

apinner · 23-02-2007, 14:19

Well i purchased a almost new Jetex filter from a jabba sport induction kit on ebay for a tenner and fitted that instead of the filter that came with the fleabay kit and its twice the size of the standard one!

And my god what a difference it has made.. the noise is amazing! the performance difference is even better.. that standard filter must be so restrictive!

My advice to all the people with ebay induction kits.. get rid of that filter and buy a better bigger one!

jpd · 23-02-2007, 14:59

I'm going on ebay now for a surf 4 a bigger filter. A 10er cant be bad thats just jammie.

apinner · 23-02-2007, 15:19

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...7305&rd=1&rd=1

Absolute bargain!

The jetex filter is rated at about 220bhp.. and its huge compared to the ebay one! so imagine what the cheap crappy filter is rated at?

jpd · 23-02-2007, 15:29

Dam that was a bargain it looks like its brand new. I've been looking but no real bargains and I don't want another crap universal filter.

apinner · 23-02-2007, 15:34

tbh.. there not actually that expensive direct from jetex..

Jetex Conical Filters - Cost effective replacement of the air box.

jpd · 23-02-2007, 15:37

Cheers for that link, at least I have a back up if I dont find a bargain on fleabay over the weekend.

15-02-2007, 19:29	#1
apinner f.f.f..freezing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,946 Members Car: Mk1 Octavia vRS Images: 8 Thanks: 61 Thanked 115 Times in 55 Posts	Induction Kit Disapointment Well i fitted my fleabay induction kit this afternoon, and i have to say i was disappointed with the noise! I was expecting a real roar but you only hear anything when you blip the throttle from idle.. the DV however is much louder Did anyone else find this?? I am also going to replace the filter that came with it for a better one.. its a bit cheap and nasty! __________________ . Alex . Briskoda.net Blog

15-02-2007, 20:17	#2
mluton Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Birmingham Posts: 6,402 Members Car: Red Octavia vRS 1.8T (20v) Thanks: 46 Thanked 227 Times in 202 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment I had a Carbonio CAI fitted on saturday with a Forge 007 DV at Awesome GTI. Wow the noise is amazing. __________________ Support Briskoda----------------------> Red Skoda Octavia V//RS Mods to date: Carbonio CAI Forge 007 DV Aero Wipers Briskoda Stickers KVW100 GB Wheel Inserts RS Tuning Remap Delocked Piper Cat Back Kenwood KDC-W6541U Fli Twin 12" Active Sub Parrot CK3100 *------------------------------------------------*

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RobClubley Midnight Mod! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aotearoa - land of the long white cloud Posts: 7,045 Members Car: 2004 Octavia vRS Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 155 Thanked 161 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment I didn't think there was much more engine noise with the Carbonio, but there's a lot of air sucking sounds and the DV is MUCH louder __________________ Corrida Red 2004 Octavia vRS Estate - It's the bestest Skoda in New Zealand! Whaia te mātauranga, whaia te māramatanga - Pursue knowledge, pursue the wisdom of knowledge www.pimpmyskoda.co.uk www.clubley.org Facebook

15-02-2007, 20:39	#4
mluton Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Birmingham Posts: 6,402 Members Car: Red Octavia vRS 1.8T (20v) Thanks: 46 Thanked 227 Times in 202 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment If you get someone to drive your car past you, the sound is amazing. No as noticable in the car, very subtle inside. __________________ Support Briskoda----------------------> Red Skoda Octavia V//RS Mods to date: Carbonio CAI Forge 007 DV Aero Wipers Briskoda Stickers KVW100 GB Wheel Inserts RS Tuning Remap Delocked Piper Cat Back Kenwood KDC-W6541U Fli Twin 12" Active Sub Parrot CK3100 *------------------------------------------------*

16-02-2007, 00:20	#6
Timo Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miles from where I want to be. Posts: 395 Members Car: Octy VRS Tdi Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment My mate on here, has one, not sure what he calls himself on here. Anyway, he kept the supplied filter on it, and months later claims that he can't hear it anymore. Hoping to grab the pipe off him when he gets bored, and stick my k&n on it, should be nice for the summer weather.

16-02-2007, 00:41	#7
pittVRS Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off The Wagon Posts: 5,268 Members Car: MX-5 Thanks: 148 Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Nother vote for the Carbonio here. Mine was great. I found myself driving round the underground carpark at Meadowhall for hours with all the windows down. Grrrrrowl! __________________

16-02-2007, 02:15	#8
RobClubley Midnight Mod! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aotearoa - land of the long white cloud Posts: 7,045 Members Car: 2004 Octavia vRS Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 155 Thanked 161 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Since fitting it I've had a bit of a hesitation at around 2000 rpm, and when going up hills at constant speed the car seems to get a little, er, confused somehow. Sucking in air then dumping the pressure - sounds a bit like Ivor the engine sometimes! Does this sound normal or do I have a problem somewhere? __________________ Corrida Red 2004 Octavia vRS Estate - It's the bestest Skoda in New Zealand! Whaia te mātauranga, whaia te māramatanga - Pursue knowledge, pursue the wisdom of knowledge www.pimpmyskoda.co.uk www.clubley.org Facebook

16-02-2007, 02:31	#9
whitebakecase Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stafford Posts: 77 Members Car: Black Octavia 02 Vrs Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment the problem you describe with hestation is the same problem I had with my 02 vrs just after I fitted my aftermarket filter, and it turned out to be two split hoses under the plastic engine cover, now replaced and back to former glory. coincidence? or maybe some subtle design fault along the line?

16-02-2007, 02:33	#10
RobClubley Midnight Mod! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aotearoa - land of the long white cloud Posts: 7,045 Members Car: 2004 Octavia vRS Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 155 Thanked 161 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Hmm why didn't I check for a boost leak. Will have a rummage in the engine tonight! Cheers __________________ Corrida Red 2004 Octavia vRS Estate - It's the bestest Skoda in New Zealand! Whaia te mātauranga, whaia te māramatanga - Pursue knowledge, pursue the wisdom of knowledge www.pimpmyskoda.co.uk www.clubley.org Facebook

16-02-2007, 20:27	#12
Ch!lledBudwei2e Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Wales Posts: 276 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Heres a quick clip we recorded after fitting the Carbonio too the car, but as side note now that I've had the car remapped and had a boost controller fitted the difference between the noise with vRS boost as standard and as mapped is like night and day. The clip is pre remap http://www.rhodribaker.entadsl.com/Cars/carbonio.avi

22-02-2007, 09:32	#15
FocusZtec Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North London Posts: 821 Members Car: Octy 4x4 1.8T Elegance Hatch Thanks: 29 Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Yet another vote for the carbonio here too - installed it over the weekend and it sounds glorious! Well, as already said its actually more the recirc valve that you hear more but its a great bit of kit. __________________ Thanks to JKM: REVO STAGE 2+ remap, Evoms CAI, Piper Turbo back Exhaust, Autotech Fuel Pump, Torque Arm Insert, Forge Recirc, Neuspeed Turbo & Intercooler pipes, APR FMIC, Iridium plugs, Koni FSD's, Eibach springs, Eibach F + R anti roll bars. VF short shifter. 345mm Brakes. 280BHP & 330LB/FT - enough room for a proper trip to B&Q and 36mpg on a run!!!

22-02-2007, 12:02	#16
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,063 Members Car: Thanks: 36 Thanked 200 Times in 179 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Oooh Carbonio Sorry , you just knew I was going to come in with that I love these and I must admit , my son has a different CAI on and it does not sound as good as the Carbonio , but hey he is pleased with it I drove it down the street for him , and every time it had a little growl......mmmm Sarah

22-02-2007, 13:44	#17
Morley Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 95 Members Car: Unmodified Octavia vRS Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment I must be getting old or something. I thought the whole point of an induction kit was to increase the flow of air into the engine, thus allowing more fuel to be added to the mix. More fuel + more air = more power. Surely this is what you are all really trying to achieve and I'm all up for that. Any additional induction noise might be seen as a desirable side effect, but surely not a benefit? You should also be wary of "cheap" airfilters because if they are letting more air through the chances are they are letting in a lot more dirt. Many companies advertise filters with improved air flow without letting in more rubbish, but I would be a little scepticle. Maybe the K&N's and Pipercross's of this world would be better at keeping out the dirt whilst improving airflo but you are paying a premium for this. I guess this is all OK for the MaxPower readers amongst you driving around the block with you baseball caps on backwards but on long journeys excessive induction roar becomes wearing and intrusive.

22-02-2007, 15:06	#18
jpd Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Whitehaven Posts: 73 Members Car: Octavia VRs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment I also have the old fleabay item, sounds ok but was not impressed with the fit. By the looks of it i will be going for the carbonio in a couple of months when I get some spare coin.

23-02-2007, 13:46	#19
Steevie Wonder Silver bullet Join Date: May 2003 Location: Planet Earth...... Posts: 788 Members Car: 345bhp Silver Octavia vRS Thanks: 48 Thanked 40 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment ABD Racing c.a.i up for good price. pm me if interested. __________________ The silver bulletJabbasport's; IHI Stage 3 vf34, ceramic lined manifold, F.M.I.C, boost controller, Snowperformance methanol injection, ABD Racing ceramic inlet manifold & CAI, K&N monster filter, 02M 6 speed TDi gearbox, Peloquin a.t.b, Sachs SMF & sports clutch, Forge quickshift, APR R1, Blueflame 3" d/p, 100 cell cat, Milltek 2 ¾" system, Samco; i/c, turbo & boost hoses, Bosch 440cc injectors, 3" M.A.F, SuperPro bushes all round + engine mounts, Weitec coilovers, Eibach rear arb, AP Racing 6 pots & 335mm floaters, S3 top & bottom braces, Nomad; turbo, oil pressure, oil temperature & battery gauges.

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23-02-2007, 14:19	#20
apinner f.f.f..freezing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,946 Members Car: Mk1 Octavia vRS Images: 8 Thanks: 61 Thanked 115 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Well i purchased a almost new Jetex filter from a jabba sport induction kit on ebay for a tenner and fitted that instead of the filter that came with the fleabay kit and its twice the size of the standard one! And my god what a difference it has made.. the noise is amazing! the performance difference is even better.. that standard filter must be so restrictive! My advice to all the people with ebay induction kits.. get rid of that filter and buy a better bigger one! __________________ . Alex . Briskoda.net Blog

23-02-2007, 14:59	#21
jpd Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Whitehaven Posts: 73 Members Car: Octavia VRs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment I'm going on ebay now for a surf 4 a bigger filter. A 10er cant be bad thats just jammie.

23-02-2007, 15:19	#22
apinner f.f.f..freezing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,946 Members Car: Mk1 Octavia vRS Images: 8 Thanks: 61 Thanked 115 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...7305&rd=1&rd=1 Absolute bargain! The jetex filter is rated at about 220bhp.. and its huge compared to the ebay one! so imagine what the cheap crappy filter is rated at? __________________ . Alex . Briskoda.net Blog Last edited by apinner; 23-02-2007 at 15:21.

23-02-2007, 15:29	#23
jpd Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Whitehaven Posts: 73 Members Car: Octavia VRs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Dam that was a bargain it looks like its brand new. I've been looking but no real bargains and I don't want another crap universal filter.

23-02-2007, 15:34	#24
apinner f.f.f..freezing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,946 Members Car: Mk1 Octavia vRS Images: 8 Thanks: 61 Thanked 115 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment tbh.. there not actually that expensive direct from jetex.. Jetex Conical Filters - Cost effective replacement of the air box. __________________ . Alex . Briskoda.net Blog

23-02-2007, 15:37	#25
jpd Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Whitehaven Posts: 73 Members Car: Octavia VRs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Induction Kit Disapointment Cheers for that link, at least I have a back up if I dont find a bargain on fleabay over the weekend.