K&N 57i induction kit...

rob1sp · 02-05-2005, 23:05

K&N 57i induction kit, are they any good? How much difference would there be between it and a Green panel filter replacement? Would it warrant the extra cash?

bengie · 02-05-2005, 23:06

go for the panel filter mate, the 57i on its own will suffer horrid heat soak at high speed. for best results go for a CAI

Joel_vRS · 03-05-2005, 09:24

or make your own CAI with a K&N 57i and teh standard air filter box... like i did.. no heta soak for me

Joel

rob1sp · 03-05-2005, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel_vRS

or make your own CAI with a K&N 57i and teh standard air filter box... like i did.. no heta soak for me

Joel

Is that difficult to do? Is it a case of cutting the airbox diagonally lengthwise and having the induction cone inside it? What other induction filters are there available that wouldnt suffer from heat-soak and would cost under £150?

WRCSixtyThree · 04-05-2005, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob1sp

Is that difficult to do? Is it a case of cutting the airbox diagonally lengthwise and having the induction cone inside it? What other induction filters are there available that wouldnt suffer from heat-soak and would cost under £150?

For under £150 quid, look for a second hand CAI like the ABD or Carbonio, or just get a panel filter.

Not many cone filter fans around here... not for oily filters like the K+N anyway. I've had personal experience of their MAF-massacring ability on one of my previous cars.

rob1sp · 04-05-2005, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRCSixtyThree

For under £150 quid, look for a second hand CAI like the ABD or Carbonio, or just get a panel filter.

Not many cone filter fans around here... not for oily filters like the K+N anyway. I've had personal experience of their MAF-massacring ability on one of my previous cars.

May just go for panel filter then, sounds like K+N would be more hassle than its worth...

rob1sp · 16-05-2005, 13:20

Joel_vRS, any chance you could enlighten me as to the finer points of creating a CAI using the original airbox? Have fitted the K&N panel filter but not happy with it, am still considering the K57i if I can find a way to stop the heatsoak...

Edit: My K&N Panel Filter is up for sale on Ebay, although will sell to anyone on here who is looking for one - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MESE:IT

Joel_vRS · 16-05-2005, 14:00

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showt...hlight=weekend

Not quite the same as a CAI but deffinently helped, the CAI the filter sits down in the gap between the bumper and the arch under the headlight... my design uses an air pipe striaght into the orginal box.. the pipe takes its feed from the front..

Joel

Joel_vRS · 16-05-2005, 14:03

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/t2562...r-box-mod.html

here is the 57i cone filter in the orginal box

Joel

SkodiRS · 16-05-2005, 14:09

I don't think a CAI can be defined by where the filter sits....rather more it is the method of getting colder air in.

I have a Jabba CAI...and the filter is next to the MAF.....the filter is not enclosed but sit within an enclosure which makes a seal against the bonnet when closed. The shield is to prevent heat soak from engine.

To all intents purposes a replacement Green Filter will probably do just as good a job as a CAI...just that you won't get a difference in sound.

rob1sp · 16-05-2005, 14:16

Difference in sound os one of the things I'm looking for, the standard noise (or lack of) isnt very inspiring...

SkodiRS · 16-05-2005, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob1sp

Difference in sound os one of the things I'm looking for, the standard noise (or lack of) isnt very inspiring...

CAI is the way to go then.

You could cut holes in the standard airbox but then you couldn't return to standard when you sell the car.

Joel_vRS · 16-05-2005, 16:41

agreed CAI if you want noise.... the K&N cone on its own is noisy but you have the heat soak issue... putting it in the orginal box shuts it up... so you cant win CAI is the way forward...

Joel

pittVRS · 16-05-2005, 17:32

The Carbonio CAI I fitted makes a massive difference to the noise. You get a great big dirty growl under acceleration, and you can hear the shiny DV a lot better now. (couldn't hear a thing with airbox on)

exFiesta · 16-05-2005, 17:45

lol...

GGGRRROOOWWLLLLL TSSSSSSH
GGGRRROOOOOOWWWWLLL TSSSSSSSH

Ic3man · 16-05-2005, 19:10

ABD CAI + DV

Sounds gr8...this is what it looks like :

02-05-2005, 23:05	#1
rob1sp Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bushmills, NI Posts: 771 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	K&N 57i induction kit... K&N 57i induction kit, are they any good? How much difference would there be between it and a Green panel filter replacement? Would it warrant the extra cash? __________________ '96 Volvo 460 weapon has now replaced the beast from the east(ern bloc)...

02-05-2005, 23:06	#2
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	go for the panel filter mate, the 57i on its own will suffer horrid heat soak at high speed. for best results go for a CAI __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

03-05-2005, 09:24	#3
Joel_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 1,658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	or make your own CAI with a K&N 57i and teh standard air filter box... like i did.. no heta soak for me Joel __________________ Everyday car: Pimp Black Skoda Octavia VRS, 230bhp, 250lb custom remap, blueflame stainless exhaust, lowered, Hyperboost Dump Valve, ABD tip. 1/4mile in 14.99 secs Project Car: Vintage Mk2 Golf, to be turned in to a 1/4 mile beast, 1.8T 20v engine conversion! Watch this space!!!!

16-05-2005, 13:20	#7
rob1sp Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bushmills, NI Posts: 771 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Joel_vRS, any chance you could enlighten me as to the finer points of creating a CAI using the original airbox? Have fitted the K&N panel filter but not happy with it, am still considering the K57i if I can find a way to stop the heatsoak... Edit: My K&N Panel Filter is up for sale on Ebay, although will sell to anyone on here who is looking for one - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MESE:IT __________________ '96 Volvo 460 weapon has now replaced the beast from the east(ern bloc)... Last edited by rob1sp; 16-05-2005 at 13:22.

16-05-2005, 14:00	#8
Joel_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 1,658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showt...hlight=weekend Not quite the same as a CAI but deffinently helped, the CAI the filter sits down in the gap between the bumper and the arch under the headlight... my design uses an air pipe striaght into the orginal box.. the pipe takes its feed from the front.. Joel __________________ Everyday car: Pimp Black Skoda Octavia VRS, 230bhp, 250lb custom remap, blueflame stainless exhaust, lowered, Hyperboost Dump Valve, ABD tip. 1/4mile in 14.99 secs Project Car: Vintage Mk2 Golf, to be turned in to a 1/4 mile beast, 1.8T 20v engine conversion! Watch this space!!!!

16-05-2005, 14:03	#9
Joel_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 1,658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.briskoda.net/forums/t2562...r-box-mod.html here is the 57i cone filter in the orginal box Joel __________________ Everyday car: Pimp Black Skoda Octavia VRS, 230bhp, 250lb custom remap, blueflame stainless exhaust, lowered, Hyperboost Dump Valve, ABD tip. 1/4mile in 14.99 secs Project Car: Vintage Mk2 Golf, to be turned in to a 1/4 mile beast, 1.8T 20v engine conversion! Watch this space!!!!

16-05-2005, 14:09	#10
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	I don't think a CAI can be defined by where the filter sits....rather more it is the method of getting colder air in. I have a Jabba CAI...and the filter is next to the MAF.....the filter is not enclosed but sit within an enclosure which makes a seal against the bonnet when closed. The shield is to prevent heat soak from engine. To all intents purposes a replacement Green Filter will probably do just as good a job as a CAI...just that you won't get a difference in sound. __________________ Adrian.

16-05-2005, 14:16	#11
rob1sp Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bushmills, NI Posts: 771 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Difference in sound os one of the things I'm looking for, the standard noise (or lack of) isnt very inspiring... __________________ '96 Volvo 460 weapon has now replaced the beast from the east(ern bloc)...

16-05-2005, 16:41	#13
Joel_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peterborough Posts: 1,658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	agreed CAI if you want noise.... the K&N cone on its own is noisy but you have the heat soak issue... putting it in the orginal box shuts it up... so you cant win CAI is the way forward... Joel __________________ Everyday car: Pimp Black Skoda Octavia VRS, 230bhp, 250lb custom remap, blueflame stainless exhaust, lowered, Hyperboost Dump Valve, ABD tip. 1/4mile in 14.99 secs Project Car: Vintage Mk2 Golf, to be turned in to a 1/4 mile beast, 1.8T 20v engine conversion! Watch this space!!!!

16-05-2005, 17:32	#14
pittVRS Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off The Wagon Posts: 5,233 Thanks: 148 Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts	The Carbonio CAI I fitted makes a massive difference to the noise. You get a great big dirty growl under acceleration, and you can hear the shiny DV a lot better now. (couldn't hear a thing with airbox on) __________________

16-05-2005, 17:45	#15
exFiesta Torque is cheap Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Reading, Berkshire Posts: 589 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	lol... GGGRRROOOWWLLLLL TSSSSSSH GGGRRROOOOOOWWWWLLL TSSSSSSSH

16-05-2005, 19:10	#16
Ic3man Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: High Peak Posts: 348 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	ABD CAI + DV Sounds gr8...this is what it looks like : __________________ '04 Silver Octy vRS - Revo 4bar, Miltek SS, Mitek Downpipe, 100cel CAT, RS6 18" Alloys, Forge 007p, ABD lan pipe/green filter, Samco TIP, Autogauge Boost,Oil temp, Oil Pressure gauges, ESP, Xenons, RS3 upper & lower braces

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