lightened Single mass flywheel

Lloyd55vrs · 22-05-2008, 17:40

hiya folks

im just after abit of hands on info about single and lightened flywheel conversions ?
just been peeking around and asking , 1 in particular from awesome is the ecs tunning range such as stage 2 really seeing how my foot can get lol

Volkswagen Golf / GTI IV 1.8T Drivetrain Clutch
the biggest hmm

is that ive had it mentioned to me about gearbox rattle?
so 1 really has anyone got this and how bad is it?
2 ive been looking at kits with smf around 14lbs and steel, do these drive similar to stock?
3 lol i dunno lol any other thoughts i supose
cheers dudes

devonutopia · 22-05-2008, 18:37

I can only say avoid anything which is "lightened" - look for stuff which is just lighter off the shelf.

VtinyRmikeS · 22-05-2008, 19:29

HI m8

i fitted an uprated clutch an lightweight flywheel about a month ago an my car drives fine, seems a little bit more responsive too,

ive heard a car with a rattly noise but mines fine, maybe mines different?
the only noise ive heard is at low speed which is probably the springs in the friction plate,
no issues with mine yet,
i would recommend 1

martziniuk · 22-05-2008, 19:36

Which kit did you go for in the end mate?

Lloyd55vrs · 22-05-2008, 22:28

the 1 ecs do is steel and 14lbs it is also manufactured that way? i spotted one on jabba site too which is lightened ,
ive been told any rattle is only when the car is in neutral and the clutch pedal is up? just gathering peoples thoughts and experience

the other ive heard is if you can find a sachs agent and get the vr6 power clutch and a oe g60 flywheel which is 21 or 22lbs? but vw guys said there was a few options on the flywheels? huh? lol the ecs tunning stage 2 was around 400 i think and ok for 300lbs?

AwesomeSarah · 23-05-2008, 09:03

The flywheel that you get in the G60 clutch set up , os the G60 set up
We do the kits @ £320.00 + VAT
That includes EVERYTHING to do the conversion
Then there is the ECS one
In my opinion , much of a muchness
We have sold LOADS of the ECS stage 1 kits @ £275 + VAT
Any clutch kit that contains the SMF will add a bit of noise
That is because you are replacing the DMF to SMF
It is not THAT bad , and as you have rightly said , it is only on tickover with your foot off the clutch pedal
If you want to remove the noise , you just put your foot on the pedal
But I dont think it is that bad
As I said , we have done loads
Sarah

Lloyd55vrs · 23-05-2008, 17:24

hiya sarah, i think it was yourself that quoted me on the completes stage 2 ecs kit with the steel wheel

thankin you

bengie · 23-05-2008, 17:39

my mk1 1.8t suffered no extra rattle or noise using a SMF, i think its only the 6 speed box that is affected.

Lloyd55vrs · 23-05-2008, 18:20

worth doing then mate , thanks again bengie mate

bengie the ever informed

cheers dude
ps ... how light was your fly?

VtinyRmikeS · 23-05-2008, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by martziniuk

Which kit did you go for in the end mate?

hi mart long time no speak, i bought the clutch from nick at jabba
light flywheel an the clutch can handle over 330 bhp
i didnt ask for the torque figure im crap on the fone
plus it sounded good an i needed it for the same weekend,
its great just need more power now

Lloyd55vrs · 23-05-2008, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by VtinyRmikeS

...i bought the clutch from nick at jabba
light flywheel an the clutch can handle over 330 bhp...

wot did that cost u bud?

VtinyRmikeS · 23-05-2008, 20:46

hi m8
it was £476 inc vat & delivery
an it came a day or 2 later just in time for the weekend to fit,
cool

bengie · 23-05-2008, 20:54

i had the G60 flywheel and saschs clutch setup. handled 200bhp+ in my 4x4 with many launches and all the abuse i could throw at it for over 3 years. infact i never broke it i broke the gearbox first!

VtinyRmikeS · 23-05-2008, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

i had the G60 flywheel and saschs clutch setup. handled 200bhp+ in my 4x4 with many launches and all the abuse i could throw at it for over 3 years. infact i never broke it i broke the gearbox first!

cool
what happened to your gearbox?

Lloyd55vrs · 23-05-2008, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

i had the G60 flywheel and saschs clutch setup. handled 200bhp+ in my 4x4 with many launches and all the abuse i could throw at it for over 3 years. infact i never broke it i broke the gearbox first!

ooops

im planning a turbo conversion around the 250 marker, just weighing everything up lol

bengie · 23-05-2008, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by VtinyRmikeS

cool
what happened to your gearbox?

i blew a 2.5" hole in the side of it and twisted a drive shaft

Lloyd55vrs · 23-05-2008, 22:55

OMG ! eeek

22-05-2008, 17:40	#1
Lloyd55vrs Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 434 Thanks: 103 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	lightened Single mass flywheel hiya folks im just after abit of hands on info about single and lightened flywheel conversions ? just been peeking around and asking , 1 in particular from awesome is the ecs tunning range such as stage 2 really seeing how my foot can get lol Volkswagen Golf / GTI IV 1.8T Drivetrain Clutch the biggest hmm is that ive had it mentioned to me about gearbox rattle? so 1 really has anyone got this and how bad is it? 2 ive been looking at kits with smf around 14lbs and steel, do these drive similar to stock? 3 lol i dunno lol any other thoughts i supose cheers dudes __________________

22-05-2008, 18:37	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,079 Images: 5 Thanks: 76 Thanked 347 Times in 290 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel I can only say avoid anything which is "lightened" - look for stuff which is just lighter off the shelf. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

22-05-2008, 19:29	#3
VtinyRmikeS Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WIRRAL Posts: 122 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel HI m8 i fitted an uprated clutch an lightweight flywheel about a month ago an my car drives fine, seems a little bit more responsive too, ive heard a car with a rattly noise but mines fine, maybe mines different? the only noise ive heard is at low speed which is probably the springs in the friction plate, no issues with mine yet, i would recommend 1

22-05-2008, 19:36	#4
martziniuk Need more power Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Driffield, Good old yorkshire Posts: 1,944 Thanks: 54 Thanked 160 Times in 155 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel Which kit did you go for in the end mate? __________________ Regards Martin Turbo back blueflame exhaust ,Forge 007p Dump valve,Prosport boost gauge, Autobahn88 TIP, Ecu Evolution Remap, FMIC Last edited by DGW; 23-05-2008 at 20:43. Reason: Redundant quote deleted.

22-05-2008, 22:28	#5
Lloyd55vrs Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 434 Thanks: 103 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel the 1 ecs do is steel and 14lbs it is also manufactured that way? i spotted one on jabba site too which is lightened , ive been told any rattle is only when the car is in neutral and the clutch pedal is up? just gathering peoples thoughts and experience the other ive heard is if you can find a sachs agent and get the vr6 power clutch and a oe g60 flywheel which is 21 or 22lbs? but vw guys said there was a few options on the flywheels? huh? lol the ecs tunning stage 2 was around 400 i think and ok for 300lbs? __________________ Last edited by Lloyd55vrs; 22-05-2008 at 22:35.

23-05-2008, 09:03	#6
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,956 Thanks: 35 Thanked 186 Times in 166 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel The flywheel that you get in the G60 clutch set up , os the G60 set up We do the kits @ £320.00 + VAT That includes EVERYTHING to do the conversion Then there is the ECS one In my opinion , much of a muchness We have sold LOADS of the ECS stage 1 kits @ £275 + VAT Any clutch kit that contains the SMF will add a bit of noise That is because you are replacing the DMF to SMF It is not THAT bad , and as you have rightly said , it is only on tickover with your foot off the clutch pedal If you want to remove the noise , you just put your foot on the pedal But I dont think it is that bad As I said , we have done loads Sarah

23-05-2008, 17:24	#7
Lloyd55vrs Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 434 Thanks: 103 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel hiya sarah, i think it was yourself that quoted me on the completes stage 2 ecs kit with the steel wheel thankin you __________________ Last edited by DGW; 23-05-2008 at 20:43. Reason: Redundant quote deleted.

23-05-2008, 17:39	#8
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel my mk1 1.8t suffered no extra rattle or noise using a SMF, i think its only the 6 speed box that is affected. __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

23-05-2008, 18:20	#9
Lloyd55vrs Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 434 Thanks: 103 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel worth doing then mate , thanks again bengie mate bengie the ever informed cheers dude ps ... how light was your fly? __________________ Last edited by DGW; 23-05-2008 at 20:44. Reason: Redundant quote deleted.

23-05-2008, 20:46	#12
VtinyRmikeS Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WIRRAL Posts: 122 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel hi m8 it was £476 inc vat & delivery an it came a day or 2 later just in time for the weekend to fit, cool

23-05-2008, 20:54	#13
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel i had the G60 flywheel and saschs clutch setup. handled 200bhp+ in my 4x4 with many launches and all the abuse i could throw at it for over 3 years. infact i never broke it i broke the gearbox first! __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

23-05-2008, 22:55	#17
Lloyd55vrs Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 434 Thanks: 103 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: lightened Single mass flywheel OMG ! eeek __________________

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