My car is bent (literally)

Adams · 14-02-2005, 11:48

My vRS Octy is bent!
That part under the doors that you can see if you bend down which runs parallel to the ground, has got quite a noticeable kink in it!

I don't know how it happened and don't know what to do!
Could I take a picture of it on my phone and then post on here.
If so, how ?

I was quite alarmed when I noticed this yesterday!

**robmawer** · 14-02-2005, 11:49

You mean the sills under the car, where the jacking points are?
They're made out of plasticine, wouldn't worry too much about it...

Rob.

SkodiRS · 14-02-2005, 11:51

Sounds like the sillhas been damage when your car has been jacked up.
Had tyres changed or car in for garage work?

Dented mine when car slipped off jack.

Adams · 14-02-2005, 11:56

Yeah, it is the sill.

Don't suppose there is anything I can do is there!

And yes, I have had a tire changed recently!

Thanks chaps

**robmawer** · 14-02-2005, 11:59

You could try pulling it back into place...though I don't think it's really worth doing...

Rob.

***ncarring*** · 14-02-2005, 12:00

Yep - I tried jacking mine under the sill once - never again

cmcm789 · 14-02-2005, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adams

My vRS Octy is bent!
That part under the doors that you can see if you bend down which runs parallel to the ground, has got quite a noticeable kink in it!

I don't know how it happened and don't know what to do!
Could I take a picture of it on my phone and then post on here.
If so, how ?

I was quite alarmed when I noticed this yesterday!

Its a problem with all VAG cars. My old MK3 TDI Golf did the same at the jacking points at the front.

In Peter Kay terms, they are the equivalent of rich tea when it comes to dunkin in your brew

JD

WW_VRS · 14-02-2005, 12:48

Seems a little rubbish as they are supposed to be for that purpose GRR

sixman9 · 14-02-2005, 13:07

I was going to write a thread about this Saturday. Had my tyres changed and the Octy was jacked up on the sill (if you look underneath, there is a circular area which I guess is for 3rd-party jacks).

I blew my top, got the tyres swapped for free (tyres bought elsewhere) and a puncture fixed also. The manager of the garage is going to get a mechanic friend to straighten out the sill and reseal it will silicon of something

<rant>I know there is a notch or something for the Skoda jack, but garages should be aware that there are other load-bearing areas on the car, and if their jacks can't fit the notch, then I don't think they should attempt to scuff-up the car by sitting [what is] the bodywork, on steel jacks!!! </rant>

Adams · 14-02-2005, 14:03

Would it be relatively easy to put right?
I.E Hammer and a lenght of wood?

WW_VRS · 14-02-2005, 14:15

The way I look at it - if the garage damages my car they can repair the damage FREE of charge. It's not that difficult to have rubber covers over the metal bit sticking out at the end of the jack (ie the lifting bit), and most come like that anyway.

I don't like the fact it is that easily bent though :|

**mannyo** · 14-02-2005, 14:40

Mines bent to. Tried straightening it and to no avail, I would just leave it be. The only problem you might have is if you need to use the oem jack as that hooks onto the sills.

SimonS · 14-02-2005, 23:47

I remember when I first got my SEAT Toledo, the handbook said do NOT jack anywhere else on the car, but on the sills only.

I trusted VAG, and bent the sill on my shiny new car!!!

Won't be making the same mistake on my newly aquired Octy, I can tell you.

I'll jack it the same as any other car - middle of either axle (like tyre fitters do).

big k · 14-02-2005, 23:53

why o why are ppl's jacking cas up on the sills isn't the suspension good enough?

Skodacious · 14-02-2005, 23:53

Is the damage caused despite using the recommended jacking points?

SimonS · 14-02-2005, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skodacious

Is the damage caused despite using the recommended jacking points?

It was in my case.

big k · 14-02-2005, 23:58

using the vehicle's jack ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonS

It was in my case.

SimonS · 15-02-2005, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by big k

using the vehicle's jack ?

Yep

WW_VRS · 15-02-2005, 11:25

As said - I am quite disgusted that recommended jacking points cannot hold the weight. If nothing else, a wider pad will spread the load better so it should cause LESS damage rather than more !

jimnpaula · 15-02-2005, 11:52

Did exactly the same thing myself yesterday!

Decided to swap the tyres round - front to rear and vice versa. I used an axle stand at the front and the jack at the back - OK I know the axle stand is supposed to go under the axle but for what I was doing I didn't forsee a problem.

One side was fine the other side collapsed over the axle stand.

Managed to pull it straight with some blunt nosed pliers and a bit of brute force - but it certainly doesn't make you feel particularly confident about the general build quality - is there anywhere else on the car which is soft where it should be hard?!

Actually wanted to use a trolley jack but couldn't find a suitable jacking point at the rear of the car - any ideas?

James

Atomic Sprout · 15-02-2005, 13:16

I had the front tyres on my skoda replaced about two years ago. The muppets just placed their wopping cgreat jack under the sill (not even on the right point) and jacked it up. Spotted the damage as they let the car down and wont off on one. Demanded a discount and for them to repair the car. The manager picket my car up a week later, let me his car and got the work done by the local skoda dealership. I watch like a hawk now when ever I get new tyres.

Anton_g · 16-02-2005, 18:33

There seems to be a little confusion as where to jack the octy.

If your using the oem jack as come in the boot the you pop it on the sill and the seam line sits into the channel in the jack. This way the channel takes no weight but stops the jack from dissapearing under the car.

If you have a trolley jack preferably with a nice big rubber whatsit then there are stronger sections of floor (normally front and rear chassis legs) that you can use or as i tend to front suspension at subframe mounts and rear shock mounts.

If you jack 1.3tons of car on one icle bit of protruding metal then it's going to bend. Once straightened remember to reseal to avoid all that nasty road salt getting in otherwise it'll be bye bye sills really quickily.

John Barker · 23-02-2007, 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton_g

There seems to be a little confusion as where to jack the octy.

If your using the oem jack as come in the boot the you pop it on the sill and the seam line sits into the channel in the jack. This way the channel takes no weight but stops the jack from dissapearing under the car.

If you have a trolley jack preferably with a nice big rubber whatsit then there are stronger sections of floor (normally front and rear chassis legs) that you can use or as i tend to front suspension at subframe mounts and rear shock mounts.

If you jack 1.3tons of car on one icle bit of protruding metal then it's going to bend. Once straightened remember to reseal to avoid all that nasty road salt getting in otherwise it'll be bye bye sills really quickily.

Hi,

I bought an October '04 registered Octavia hatchback last week and can't see where the four jacking points are. It isn't immediately obvious and its the sort of thing you want to establish right away, in case you're unlucky enough to get a puncture early on. I'd be grateful for any information on the subject.

John Barker

Stuart_J · 23-02-2007, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Barker

Hi,

I bought an October '04 registered Octavia hatchback last week and can't see where the four jacking points are. It isn't immediately obvious and its the sort of thing you want to establish right away, in case you're unlucky enough to get a puncture early on. I'd be grateful for any information on the subject.

John Barker

Its shown in the manual,Once you have an idea where it is if you run your hand along the lower edge of the cill you will feel a slight indentation showing where it is, about 9" from the back of the cill for the rear & 2" from the front for the front jacking point.
The std jack is only an "in emergency" item & not over robust so treat with respect !!

matchmaker · 23-02-2007, 10:51

Flattened both the sills on my Octy leaving a bumpy car park at Knockhill

14-02-2005, 11:48	#1
Adams Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bury Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My car is bent (literally) My vRS Octy is bent! That part under the doors that you can see if you bend down which runs parallel to the ground, has got quite a noticeable kink in it! I don't know how it happened and don't know what to do! Could I take a picture of it on my phone and then post on here. If so, how ? I was quite alarmed when I noticed this yesterday!

14-02-2005, 11:49	#2
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,476 Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	You mean the sills under the car, where the jacking points are? They're made out of plasticine, wouldn't worry too much about it... Rob. __________________

14-02-2005, 11:51	#3
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Sounds like the sillhas been damage when your car has been jacked up. Had tyres changed or car in for garage work? Dented mine when car slipped off jack. __________________ Adrian.

14-02-2005, 11:59	#5
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,476 Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	You could try pulling it back into place...though I don't think it's really worth doing... Rob. __________________

14-02-2005, 12:00	#6
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,950 Thanks: 16 Thanked 94 Times in 77 Posts	Yep - I tried jacking mine under the sill once - never again __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

14-02-2005, 11:56	#4
Adams Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bury Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, it is the sill. Don't suppose there is anything I can do is there! And yes, I have had a tire changed recently! Thanks chaps

14-02-2005, 12:48	#8
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,861 Thanks: 45 Thanked 81 Times in 71 Posts	Seems a little rubbish as they are supposed to be for that purpose GRR __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

14-02-2005, 13:07	#9
sixman9 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leicester Posts: 392 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I was going to write a thread about this Saturday. Had my tyres changed and the Octy was jacked up on the sill (if you look underneath, there is a circular area which I guess is for 3rd-party jacks). I blew my top, got the tyres swapped for free (tyres bought elsewhere) and a puncture fixed also. The manager of the garage is going to get a mechanic friend to straighten out the sill and reseal it will silicon of something <rant>I know there is a notch or something for the Skoda jack, but garages should be aware that there are other load-bearing areas on the car, and if their jacks can't fit the notch, then I don't think they should attempt to scuff-up the car by sitting [what is] the bodywork, on steel jacks!!! </rant> __________________ A wise man always know when to listen [so be wise and let me speak!!].

14-02-2005, 14:03	#10
Adams Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bury Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Would it be relatively easy to put right? I.E Hammer and a lenght of wood?

14-02-2005, 14:15	#11
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,861 Thanks: 45 Thanked 81 Times in 71 Posts	The way I look at it - if the garage damages my car they can repair the damage FREE of charge. It's not that difficult to have rubber covers over the metal bit sticking out at the end of the jack (ie the lifting bit), and most come like that anyway. I don't like the fact it is that easily bent though :\| __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

14-02-2005, 14:40	#12
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,442 Thanks: 56 Thanked 357 Times in 329 Posts	Mines bent to. Tried straightening it and to no avail, I would just leave it be. The only problem you might have is if you need to use the oem jack as that hooks onto the sills. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

14-02-2005, 23:47	#13
SimonS Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Teesside Posts: 71 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I remember when I first got my SEAT Toledo, the handbook said do NOT jack anywhere else on the car, but on the sills only. I trusted VAG, and bent the sill on my shiny new car!!! Won't be making the same mistake on my newly aquired Octy, I can tell you. I'll jack it the same as any other car - middle of either axle (like tyre fitters do).

14-02-2005, 23:53	#14
big k Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: u.k Posts: 1,215 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	why o why are ppl's jacking cas up on the sills isn't the suspension good enough? __________________ how can me find a jet engine for me rapid ?

14-02-2005, 23:53	#15
Skodacious Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: East Anglia (Cambridge) Posts: 427 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is the damage caused despite using the recommended jacking points? __________________ 2004 Skoda Octavia vRS MK1 'The original and best' 2003 Peugeot 206 SW 1.1 LX 'It has a split tailgate!'

15-02-2005, 11:25	#19
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,861 Thanks: 45 Thanked 81 Times in 71 Posts	As said - I am quite disgusted that recommended jacking points cannot hold the weight. If nothing else, a wider pad will spread the load better so it should cause LESS damage rather than more ! __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

23-02-2007, 10:51	#25
matchmaker Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stirling Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 24 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts	Re: My car is bent (literally) Flattened both the sills on my Octy leaving a bumpy car park at Knockhill __________________ Alan "Darth" - Black Magic Octavia VRS with Forge DV, BMC CDA induction kit, Milltek cat, Supersprint exhaust, Xenons, ESP, cruise, parking sensors and Kumho 225/45/17 tyres Been to Star sufficient bhp & ample lb/ft All time low - 7.8 mpg

15-02-2005, 11:52	#20
jimnpaula Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Plasticine! Did exactly the same thing myself yesterday! Decided to swap the tyres round - front to rear and vice versa. I used an axle stand at the front and the jack at the back - OK I know the axle stand is supposed to go under the axle but for what I was doing I didn't forsee a problem. One side was fine the other side collapsed over the axle stand. Managed to pull it straight with some blunt nosed pliers and a bit of brute force - but it certainly doesn't make you feel particularly confident about the general build quality - is there anywhere else on the car which is soft where it should be hard?! Actually wanted to use a trolley jack but couldn't find a suitable jacking point at the rear of the car - any ideas? James __________________ James & Paula

15-02-2005, 13:16	#21
Atomic Sprout Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had the front tyres on my skoda replaced about two years ago. The muppets just placed their wopping cgreat jack under the sill (not even on the right point) and jacked it up. Spotted the damage as they let the car down and wont off on one. Demanded a discount and for them to repair the car. The manager picket my car up a week later, let me his car and got the work done by the local skoda dealership. I watch like a hawk now when ever I get new tyres.

16-02-2005, 18:33	#22
Anton_g Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brisol Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There seems to be a little confusion as where to jack the octy. If your using the oem jack as come in the boot the you pop it on the sill and the seam line sits into the channel in the jack. This way the channel takes no weight but stops the jack from dissapearing under the car. If you have a trolley jack preferably with a nice big rubber whatsit then there are stronger sections of floor (normally front and rear chassis legs) that you can use or as i tend to front suspension at subframe mounts and rear shock mounts. If you jack 1.3tons of car on one icle bit of protruding metal then it's going to bend. Once straightened remember to reseal to avoid all that nasty road salt getting in otherwise it'll be bye bye sills really quickily. __________________ The consensus is that forward is better

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