My clutch isn't happy

EddyH · 28-08-2005, 01:12

Well it seems the 276ftlb of torque has finally got too much for my clutch. It keeps slipping, usually when I'm being lazy and overtake in 5th.

So, any recommendations?

Octygone · 28-08-2005, 07:48

sounds like time for the uprated clutch...about £600

**VRStu** · 28-08-2005, 08:16

Probably best part of a Couple of hundred for OEM parts Eddy.

Looks like you need to shop around. If you decide you want an OEM one again PM me, I have a contact.

Leeboy · 28-08-2005, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyH

Well it seems the 276ftlb of torque has finally got too much for my clutch. It keeps slipping, usually when I'm being lazy and overtake in 5th.

So, any recommendations?

Mine went this way coping with about the same amount of torque as your pushing. Don't know if 4wd box means different clutch, but mine was changed after 40K miles for a Sachs item from IP in Kent.

Lee

WW_VRS · 28-08-2005, 11:52

If you need to change your clutch I'd get an uprated one. The price difference isn't too evil, whereas replacing it again in a few years (if that long

) would be very annoying.

EddyH · 28-08-2005, 12:14

I'll definetely be replacing with an uprated item. The curent clutch has 55k.

xram · 28-08-2005, 13:17

Hello
Does some one tried or recommend a Kevlar clutch?

***DGW*** · 29-08-2005, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyH

Well it seems the 276ftlb of torque has finally got too much for my clutch. It keeps slipping, usually when I'm being lazy and overtake in 5th.

So, any recommendations?

IIRC JBS can supply at least 2 different replacement clutches which should be more than up to the task if you don't go the Corrado G60 route.

bengie · 29-08-2005, 20:02

clutch's are the same between 2WD and 4WD

skoda dealer by near quoted £850 to replace the clutch and bearing

bought the uprated clutch and flywheel from IP and got it fitted by a local mechanic for £650

if your thinking of big power in the future by way of a big turbo then i wouldn't bother with the uber clutchs as they will be null and noid when the box needs changing

balgate · 29-08-2005, 20:36

my clutch has just been replaced, 3rd clutch in 3 years and this time it went good and proper, i had mine done at jabba and they fitted the g60 clutch and flywheel and the change is amazing, it feels alot lighter but the change is nice and the way it puts down the power is awesome, cost me about £500 including fitting and they brought the car half way home for me to save me going all the way over, diamond company.

EddyH · 29-08-2005, 22:05

Still not sure what to do, will be speaking to JBS tomorrow to see what they have.

Bengie, I probably will go big turbo in the future but I'm reluctant to lose the low ratio 5 speed box. BTW I now have an R32 haldex unit in my garage as a spare.

***Neo_VR*** · 29-08-2005, 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyH

Still not sure what to do, will be speaking to JBS tomorrow to see what they have.

Bengie, I probably will go big turbo in the future but I'm reluctant to lose the low ratio 5 speed box. BTW I now have an R32 haldex unit in my garage as a spare.

Will you be going for the single mass flywheel? apparently it makes it feel like a different car?

EddyH · 29-08-2005, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Will you be going for the single mass flywheel? apparently it makes it feel like a different car?

Not sure as JBS recommend sticking with dual mass with their kevlar clutch kits.

Really unsure what route to take at the moment.

bengie · 30-08-2005, 00:07

is th haldex any different then eddy?

EddyH · 30-08-2005, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

is th haldex any different then eddy?

Not sure TBH, I bought it for the ECU as mine has a fault on it, figured I may as well keep the main unit as a spare as most people are unsure if the 4x4 unit is as strong as the R32's.

bengie · 30-08-2005, 09:30

good thinking batman

Mil · 30-08-2005, 10:01

How heavy are standard clutch kits with flywheel bla bla? kilos please

? If they make that much of a difference I'll go for an aftermarket model myself.

EddyH · 30-08-2005, 10:28

So what are the pro's and con's of having a lightened single mass flywheel instead of the standard dual mass item?

bengie · 30-08-2005, 10:44

revs slightly quicker/easier and the power bites quicker as the dual mass gubbins isn't there to soak anything up

***ColinD*** · 30-08-2005, 12:31

Eddie,

I have the dual mass kevlar from jbs.

It does the job.

It's defo not as free spooling as a single mass, but then I understand the sach's stuff has had problems, then again everything does if you listen enough.

Have a chat to them as the kevlar needs a clean faceplate and that in it'self causes a few problems.

IIRC it was circa 850 inc fitting.

Once engaged it's sweet as a little hobo, I do find it a little juddery in town and crawling on the M6 in 1st.

HTH.

EddyH · 30-08-2005, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

revs slightly quicker/easier and the power bites quicker as the dual mass gubbins isn't there to soak anything up

Do you experience any judder with the single mass flywheel?

Mil · 30-08-2005, 14:39

So how much do regular clutches weigh compared to after market units? Anyone?

SkodiRS · 30-08-2005, 14:54

Apparently the dual mass clutch eliminates the "kangarooing" effect when crawling in traffic.

You would have thought the single mass fw means this increase but apparently it's minimal according to peoples experiences.

bengie · 30-08-2005, 15:05

not a lot of difference in day to day driving really

mil, no idea on weights mate. sorry

Mil · 30-08-2005, 15:07

Ok Bengie. Thanks anyway

28-08-2005, 01:12	#1
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,902 Thanks: 41 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	My clutch isn't happy Well it seems the 276ftlb of torque has finally got too much for my clutch. It keeps slipping, usually when I'm being lazy and overtake in 5th. So, any recommendations? __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

28-08-2005, 07:48	#2
Octygone Old Git Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,784 Thanks: 182 Thanked 115 Times in 74 Posts	sounds like time for the uprated clutch...about £600 __________________

28-08-2005, 08:16	#3
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,763 Thanks: 142 Thanked 987 Times in 884 Posts	Probably best part of a Couple of hundred for OEM parts Eddy. Looks like you need to shop around. If you decide you want an OEM one again PM me, I have a contact. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

28-08-2005, 11:52	#5
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,861 Thanks: 45 Thanked 81 Times in 71 Posts	If you need to change your clutch I'd get an uprated one. The price difference isn't too evil, whereas replacing it again in a few years (if that long ) would be very annoying. __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

28-08-2005, 12:14	#6
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,902 Thanks: 41 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	I'll definetely be replacing with an uprated item. The curent clutch has 55k. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

28-08-2005, 13:17	#7
xram Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Madeira Posts: 29 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kevlar Clutch Hello Does some one tried or recommend a Kevlar clutch?

29-08-2005, 20:02	#9
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	clutch's are the same between 2WD and 4WD skoda dealer by near quoted £850 to replace the clutch and bearing bought the uprated clutch and flywheel from IP and got it fitted by a local mechanic for £650 if your thinking of big power in the future by way of a big turbo then i wouldn't bother with the uber clutchs as they will be null and noid when the box needs changing __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

29-08-2005, 20:36	#10
balgate Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my clutch has just been replaced, 3rd clutch in 3 years and this time it went good and proper, i had mine done at jabba and they fitted the g60 clutch and flywheel and the change is amazing, it feels alot lighter but the change is nice and the way it puts down the power is awesome, cost me about £500 including fitting and they brought the car half way home for me to save me going all the way over, diamond company.

29-08-2005, 22:05	#11
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,902 Thanks: 41 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	Still not sure what to do, will be speaking to JBS tomorrow to see what they have. Bengie, I probably will go big turbo in the future but I'm reluctant to lose the low ratio 5 speed box. BTW I now have an R32 haldex unit in my garage as a spare. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

30-08-2005, 00:07	#14
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	is th haldex any different then eddy? __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

30-08-2005, 09:30	#16
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	good thinking batman __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

30-08-2005, 10:01	#17
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	How heavy are standard clutch kits with flywheel bla bla? kilos please ? If they make that much of a difference I'll go for an aftermarket model myself. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

30-08-2005, 10:28	#18
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,902 Thanks: 41 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	So what are the pro's and con's of having a lightened single mass flywheel instead of the standard dual mass item? __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

30-08-2005, 10:44	#19
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	revs slightly quicker/easier and the power bites quicker as the dual mass gubbins isn't there to soak anything up __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

30-08-2005, 12:31	#20
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,282 Images: 3 Thanks: 24 Thanked 165 Times in 78 Posts	Eddie, I have the dual mass kevlar from jbs. It does the job. It's defo not as free spooling as a single mass, but then I understand the sach's stuff has had problems, then again everything does if you listen enough. Have a chat to them as the kevlar needs a clean faceplate and that in it'self causes a few problems. IIRC it was circa 850 inc fitting. Once engaged it's sweet as a little hobo, I do find it a little juddery in town and crawling on the M6 in 1st. HTH. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale £2500 Going to Dealers on the 29th... www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

30-08-2005, 14:39	#22
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	So how much do regular clutches weigh compared to after market units? Anyone? __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

30-08-2005, 14:54	#23
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Apparently the dual mass clutch eliminates the "kangarooing" effect when crawling in traffic. You would have thought the single mass fw means this increase but apparently it's minimal according to peoples experiences. __________________ Adrian.

30-08-2005, 15:05	#24
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,215 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	not a lot of difference in day to day driving really mil, no idea on weights mate. sorry __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

30-08-2005, 15:07	#25
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Ok Bengie. Thanks anyway __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

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