Oh no why so slow???

Jimbo79 · 12-10-2006, 09:09

Went to Morrisons yesterday and on the drive back notice a distinct lack of get up and go from my '98 1.9 TDI 84000miles. So I put it down to lots of shopping and me being stupid and ignored it. However on the way to work this morning I went up a hill and put my foot down, waited for 1500rpm and... nothing.

I can hear the turbo and the car feels like it wants to go but that something is holding it back? I think maybe I'm getting more whoosh than normal when I'm changing gear too. Had a full service last month and a long motorway journey on mon and all was fine. Any ideas?

cheezemonkhai · 12-10-2006, 10:10

Is it a 90 or 110 TDI?

Jimbo79 · 12-10-2006, 10:13

It's a 90bhp mate.

ScoobyChris · 12-10-2006, 10:32

Sounds like it could be a split pipe preventing it from boosting fully?

Chris

cheezemonkhai · 12-10-2006, 10:38

I'd agree split pip sounds most likely, esp with it being a 90. The 110 can sometimes have sticky turbo problems but the 90 doesn't suffer from this in the same way.

Jimbo79 · 12-10-2006, 13:44

Right cheers guys I'll take a look at them. Oh where abouts am I looking exactly?

ndicki · 12-10-2006, 13:54

There's something called, wait for it, a "Durchluftmesser" (well, mine did it in Germany!) which measures and compares air intake and output through the turbo, I think; on mine, it packed up with a gentle cough at some 120mph

, and my power dropped right off. I couldn't even hold 65mph!

Mine was OK again once I'd switched off, let it cool down over lunch, and switched on again - but if your problem isn't a simple split pipe, that's where I'd go looking.

Mind you, I'm pretty clueless about this sort of thing...

TeflonTom · 12-10-2006, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Sounds like it could be a split pipe preventing it from boosting fully?

Chris

or maybe it's no split, it might have just popped off under pressure, a used to have a tdi lupo which would 'pop' the boost hose off of the intercooler with alarming regularity.

Jimbo79 · 12-10-2006, 18:00

More wierdness. Got in the car to go home, started up, drove off and the problem was still there. Got stuck in some traffic for 5 mins and when i pulled away I nearly went into the back of the bloke in front!!

Does this mean its a temperature thing?

TeflonTom · 12-10-2006, 18:32

if it's an intermittent fault it's likely to be a sensor problem somewhere..... best get a diagnostics check done.

skudupnorth · 12-10-2006, 19:19

Air mass meter's are popular,just fitted on on a delivery mileage Fabia VRs !!!!!

skudupnorth · 12-10-2006, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by skudupnorth

Air mass meter's are popular,just fitted on on a delivery mileage Fabia VRs !!!!!

Sorry Luftmeister in good old German !!!

ndicki · 13-10-2006, 13:28

That's it! There you are - Luftmesser (Messer=gauge, while Meister=master) - Cheers, mate!

12-10-2006, 09:09	#1
Jimbo79 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh no why so slow??? Went to Morrisons yesterday and on the drive back notice a distinct lack of get up and go from my '98 1.9 TDI 84000miles. So I put it down to lots of shopping and me being stupid and ignored it. However on the way to work this morning I went up a hill and put my foot down, waited for 1500rpm and... nothing. I can hear the turbo and the car feels like it wants to go but that something is holding it back? I think maybe I'm getting more whoosh than normal when I'm changing gear too. Had a full service last month and a long motorway journey on mon and all was fine. Any ideas?

12-10-2006, 10:10	#2
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,478 Thanks: 106 Thanked 507 Times in 470 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? Is it a 90 or 110 TDI? __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

12-10-2006, 10:13	#3
Jimbo79 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? It's a 90bhp mate.

12-10-2006, 10:32	#4
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,194 Thanks: 15 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? Sounds like it could be a split pipe preventing it from boosting fully? Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

12-10-2006, 10:38	#5
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,478 Thanks: 106 Thanked 507 Times in 470 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? I'd agree split pip sounds most likely, esp with it being a 90. The 110 can sometimes have sticky turbo problems but the 90 doesn't suffer from this in the same way. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

12-10-2006, 13:44	#6
Jimbo79 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? Right cheers guys I'll take a look at them. Oh where abouts am I looking exactly?

12-10-2006, 13:54	#7
ndicki Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Oh no why so slow??? There's something called, wait for it, a "Durchluftmesser" (well, mine did it in Germany!) which measures and compares air intake and output through the turbo, I think; on mine, it packed up with a gentle cough at some 120mph , and my power dropped right off. I couldn't even hold 65mph! Mine was OK again once I'd switched off, let it cool down over lunch, and switched on again - but if your problem isn't a simple split pipe, that's where I'd go looking. Mind you, I'm pretty clueless about this sort of thing... __________________ 2004 TDi140 Octy 2 Hatchback 1999 Tdi90 Octavia SLX Hatchback

12-10-2006, 18:00	#9
Jimbo79 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? More wierdness. Got in the car to go home, started up, drove off and the problem was still there. Got stuck in some traffic for 5 mins and when i pulled away I nearly went into the back of the bloke in front!! Does this mean its a temperature thing?

12-10-2006, 18:32	#10
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 8,212 Thanks: 47 Thanked 231 Times in 203 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? if it's an intermittent fault it's likely to be a sensor problem somewhere..... best get a diagnostics check done.

12-10-2006, 19:19	#11
skudupnorth Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: manchester Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Oh no why so slow??? Air mass meter's are popular,just fitted on on a delivery mileage Fabia VRs !!!!!

13-10-2006, 13:28	#13
ndicki Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Oh no why so slow??? That's it! There you are - Luftmesser (Messer=gauge, while Meister=master) - Cheers, mate! __________________ 2004 TDi140 Octy 2 Hatchback 1999 Tdi90 Octavia SLX Hatchback

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