Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary?

Leeboy · 24-05-2006, 14:00

Might be being a bit thick here, and sorry I can't do a search at this time because I get an error message say module disabled, but a fair number of people are running 300bhp + from their 1.8T's. However, I never hear or read anything about oil coolers.

Pardon my ignorance , but it might be that the standard 1.8T has a cooler already, but then again I never see tuners flogging aftermarket uprated versions as they do for every other bit of the engine. Equally I'm sure I don't see it mentioned here (though as I say, I can't do a search at the mo).

I would have thought that a oil cooler would be pretty much essential on a highly tuned turbo-ed engine. So am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this a secret for those in the know only? Curious to know more.

devonutopia · 24-05-2006, 14:09

The TDI engines have a cooler on the front, which is what the oil filter sits in IIRC - unless there's a mod for the 1.8T to have an additional one?? Its news to me too. Is your car still at TSR?

Goochie · 24-05-2006, 14:16

The Leon Cupra R has an oil cooler (mounted behind the "S" badge on the front, I believe) but the Octavia 1.8T does not.

Leeboy · 24-05-2006, 14:22

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Originally Posted by devonutopia

Is your car still at TSR?

That's not funny........ Custom made pistons from the US were supposed to have a turnaround time of 4-6 weeks. It took 14 weeks for them to come back and then they were wrong! Still, Neal would like to get the car back to me by the end of the month, but something tells me that's not going to happen.

On a positive note, look at it this way, saves me worrying about wasting precious water washing the car in face of a presumably almost certain hosepipe ban in Hampshire; don't need to buy expensive Optimax; tax ran out at the end of Feb and the car is currently SORNED; and cos it's bright yellow, I need not worry about Neal forgetting it's in his workshop.

One day, it'll be back............

Stuart_J · 24-05-2006, 14:34

Lee, never heard of anyone fitting extra coolers so I am assuming its not a problem (bearing in mind assume is sometimes read as "making as aasss out of you & Me)
Re Oil & I may have mentioned this after you lost your engine but the oil pickup is one side of the Engine so theres a potential for Oil starvation on long long sweeping corners with high G forces. I have fitted a baffled sump just in case on mine, IIRC it was 70-80 squid, not much in the scheme of things

PS the grills still here & can wait as long as you want

devonutopia · 24-05-2006, 14:53

Sorry Lee - I assumed you would have it back by now.

The joys of engine modding.....

Nigel26 · 25-05-2006, 14:13

i suppose you could enquire about having something fitted if you thought it could cause a problem but like others have said no ones really covered it before or mentioned fitting / upgrading anything.

i'll ask a Cupra R driving friend at work to see if he can confirm if his has one.

IIRC Demon Tweeks do a nifty little kit that bolts on behind the oil filter and runs a feed out to a small front mounted cooler before routing back to the filter.

Goochie · 25-05-2006, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Nigel26

i'll ask a Cupra R driving friend at work to see if he can confirm if his has one.

If he doesnt know off the top of his head, check for an aditional slot about 6 inches wide between the "S" badge and number plate

If it has the slot it has an oil cooler, if it doesnt have the slot it doesnt have the cooler.

Bigw2069 · 25-05-2006, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Nigel26

IIRC Demon Tweeks do a nifty little kit that bolts on behind the oil filter and runs a feed out to a small front mounted cooler before routing back to the filter.

Yup, fitted via a sandwich plate usually and fitted as standard to MK1 golf GTi's then on Mk2's moved to something like this

Stuart_J · 25-05-2006, 14:33

IIRC Bill Brockbank (badgerbill) might have one on his Ibiza so a chat with him might be worth it, his cars 400+ bhp & does get used to its full potential

Leeboy · 25-05-2006, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Stuart_J

IIRC Bill Brockbank (badgerbill) might have one on his Ibiza so a chat with him might be worth it, his cars 400+ bhp & does get used to its full potential

Ta for info, really question was aimed as a general enquiry, I don't think I have the need for a cooler anymore than other people here, still not sure why they don't seem to be necessary.

Meanwhile Stuart, please keep hold of grille, I do still want it.

24-05-2006, 14:00	#1
Leeboy Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1,178 Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? Might be being a bit thick here, and sorry I can't do a search at this time because I get an error message say module disabled, but a fair number of people are running 300bhp + from their 1.8T's. However, I never hear or read anything about oil coolers. Pardon my ignorance , but it might be that the standard 1.8T has a cooler already, but then again I never see tuners flogging aftermarket uprated versions as they do for every other bit of the engine. Equally I'm sure I don't see it mentioned here (though as I say, I can't do a search at the mo). I would have thought that a oil cooler would be pretty much essential on a highly tuned turbo-ed engine. So am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this a secret for those in the know only? Curious to know more. __________________ Lee Want to be carbon-neutral while driving? Hold your breath!

24-05-2006, 14:09	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,075 Images: 5 Thanks: 76 Thanked 346 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? The TDI engines have a cooler on the front, which is what the oil filter sits in IIRC - unless there's a mod for the 1.8T to have an additional one?? Its news to me too. Is your car still at TSR? __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

24-05-2006, 14:16	#3
Goochie Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 12,363 Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? The Leon Cupra R has an oil cooler (mounted behind the "S" badge on the front, I believe) but the Octavia 1.8T does not.

24-05-2006, 14:34	#5
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,678 Thanks: 39 Thanked 84 Times in 77 Posts	Re: Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? Lee, never heard of anyone fitting extra coolers so I am assuming its not a problem (bearing in mind assume is sometimes read as "making as aasss out of you & Me) Re Oil & I may have mentioned this after you lost your engine but the oil pickup is one side of the Engine so theres a potential for Oil starvation on long long sweeping corners with high G forces. I have fitted a baffled sump just in case on mine, IIRC it was 70-80 squid, not much in the scheme of things PS the grills still here & can wait as long as you want __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

24-05-2006, 14:53	#6
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,075 Images: 5 Thanks: 76 Thanked 346 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? Sorry Lee - I assumed you would have it back by now. The joys of engine modding..... __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

25-05-2006, 14:13	#7
Nigel26 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Walsall, West Midlands Posts: 2,298 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? i suppose you could enquire about having something fitted if you thought it could cause a problem but like others have said no ones really covered it before or mentioned fitting / upgrading anything. i'll ask a Cupra R driving friend at work to see if he can confirm if his has one. IIRC Demon Tweeks do a nifty little kit that bolts on behind the oil filter and runs a feed out to a small front mounted cooler before routing back to the filter. __________________ Sea Grey Mondeo Titanium X

25-05-2006, 14:33	#10
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,678 Thanks: 39 Thanked 84 Times in 77 Posts	Re: Oil Coolers: Standard fitment, oversight or unnecessary? IIRC Bill Brockbank (badgerbill) might have one on his Ibiza so a chat with him might be worth it, his cars 400+ bhp & does get used to its full potential __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

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