tyres again i'm afraid

chimp1965 · 01-02-2006, 15:18

I appreciate that this has been talked about ad infinitum, but my Octavia VRS needs tyres all round. Bugger.
Any definitive reccommendations?
Would like to spend 75p but am realistically looking at £100/tyre.

Cheers
Tim

redbaron · 01-02-2006, 15:32

cheapest for decent perforamce kumho ku31

http://www.tyresblackpool.co.uk/

run these on the track car and they seem great for the money.

cheezemonkhai · 01-02-2006, 16:02

Pilot Exalto for good grip (I think) and reasonable wear rate.
In my humble opinion they are also excellent in the wet.

MC Bodge · 01-02-2006, 16:25

I'm going to need some soon too

I've noticed talk of fitting 225s to standard wheels. Are they worth fitting? Is traction or handling improved? Other than cost are there any disadvantages? Is wet grip reduced?

redbaron · 01-02-2006, 16:26

225/45 is the way to go.

cheezemonkhai · 01-02-2006, 16:40

Sorry if ia m being stupid, but how can you fit 225/45 to a standard rim that is less wide.

I thought the 225 was the width and the 45 the height ratio.

redbaron · 01-02-2006, 16:45

7" rim will fit 185 to 235 tyres on it.

the flexibility of the sidewall allows a range of fitments.

narrow tyres on wide rims give the "euro look" lots of vw owners go for..
the lower the profile of the tyre the harder it is to stretch the side wall to meet the rim... i ran 215/35 on 8.5" rims which was silly..

currently run 205/50 on 8" rims on the bmw... but the 50 profile is high enough to cope.

wider tyres = more grip in general as you increase the contact patch.

**TaviaRS** · 01-02-2006, 16:50

& the 225/45 are cheaper than the 205/50

cheezemonkhai · 01-02-2006, 17:04

Are the 225/45 is cheaper than the standard 205/55s on the octavia eleg does anyone know?

Ta

***ColinD*** · 01-02-2006, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbaron

wider tyres = more grip in general as you increase the contact patch.

I thought it changed the contact area...keeping things almost equal, the narrow tyre gives you the long thin contact area, but fatter gives you lateral grip...

Least thats what I thought on tyrebible.

Of course there must be a difference between my bicycle tyres and an F1 car, hence I said almost equal...

Actually it is, I can't bloody overtake moving cars either...

redbaron · 01-02-2006, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

Are the 225/45 is cheaper than the standard 205/55s on the octavia eleg does anyone know?

Ta

as the latter is 16" i do not know

charlie Brennan · 01-02-2006, 17:32

I just had to change my NSR tyre, cost £74 for a p6000, phoned every number in yellow pages!! but when I got there, they checked the tracking told me it's 3mm out and wanted to charge £25 to adjust it! not a chance, 10 min job. Cheap tyres though. It was F1 tyres.

MisterGT · 02-02-2006, 07:39

I'm still going to recommend the Toyo Proxes T1-R

around £100 for 225/45/17's
24k on the fronts now but getting close to replacement.

chimp1965 · 02-02-2006, 08:11

Are you telling me that you're getting 24,000 miles from front tyres on a VRS?

MC Bodge · 02-02-2006, 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by chimp1965

Are you telling me that you're getting 24,000 miles from front tyres on a VRS?

If so, you should get yourself a 1.4!

Cheers for the info.
I may get a set of 225s (Toyo?) for the front then after the next pay day.

What's the dreaded insurance position on fitting wider tyres?

ohawkins · 02-02-2006, 09:03

That would be very impressive or you have Miss Daisy in the back

I have Conti contact sports on the front which are just past their useable limit so I am going to change to some cheap Asymetrical tyres up front.

Are there any rules that state you shouldn't run a different width and profile on the front to the back? I know you shouldn't mix on the same axle......

Anyone??

MC Bodge · 02-02-2006, 09:17

Don't think so. Some cars do have different tyres front/rear as standard

ohawkins · 02-02-2006, 12:12

I have just done some ringing around and found some Kuhmo Ecsta 712 205/50/17 93W for £72.85 all in.

Apparently a quality tyre and the reviews all seem to be very good!

MisterGT · 02-02-2006, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by chimp1965

Are you telling me that you're getting 24,000 miles from front tyres on a VRS?

errm, yes.

Is this a problem I should get looked at under Warrenty ?

MC Bodge · 02-02-2006, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterGT

errm, yes.

Is this a problem I should get looked at under Warrenty ?

I think your turbo must be malfunctioning.

01-02-2006, 15:18	#1
chimp1965 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: kent Posts: 50 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	tyres again i'm afraid I appreciate that this has been talked about ad infinitum, but my Octavia VRS needs tyres all round. Bugger. Any definitive reccommendations? Would like to spend 75p but am realistically looking at £100/tyre. Cheers Tim

01-02-2006, 15:32	#2
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,280 Thanks: 9 Thanked 52 Times in 47 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid cheapest for decent perforamce kumho ku31 http://www.tyresblackpool.co.uk/ run these on the track car and they seem great for the money. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

01-02-2006, 16:02	#3
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,928 Thanks: 77 Thanked 353 Times in 327 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid Pilot Exalto for good grip (I think) and reasonable wear rate. In my humble opinion they are also excellent in the wet.

01-02-2006, 16:25	#4
MC Bodge Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 899 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: tyres again i'm afraid I'm going to need some soon too I've noticed talk of fitting 225s to standard wheels. Are they worth fitting? Is traction or handling improved? Other than cost are there any disadvantages? Is wet grip reduced? __________________ Mk1 Octavia vRS. The thinking man's Hot Hatch. PS. Give Cyclists Room! We're quite vulnerable. If I can slap your window, you're too close

01-02-2006, 16:26	#5
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,280 Thanks: 9 Thanked 52 Times in 47 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid 225/45 is the way to go. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

01-02-2006, 16:40	#6
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,928 Thanks: 77 Thanked 353 Times in 327 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid Sorry if ia m being stupid, but how can you fit 225/45 to a standard rim that is less wide. I thought the 225 was the width and the 45 the height ratio.

01-02-2006, 16:45	#7
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,280 Thanks: 9 Thanked 52 Times in 47 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid 7" rim will fit 185 to 235 tyres on it. the flexibility of the sidewall allows a range of fitments. narrow tyres on wide rims give the "euro look" lots of vw owners go for.. the lower the profile of the tyre the harder it is to stretch the side wall to meet the rim... i ran 215/35 on 8.5" rims which was silly.. currently run 205/50 on 8" rims on the bmw... but the 50 profile is high enough to cope. wider tyres = more grip in general as you increase the contact patch. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

01-02-2006, 16:50	#8
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,918 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid & the 225/45 are cheaper than the 205/50 __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

01-02-2006, 17:04	#9
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,928 Thanks: 77 Thanked 353 Times in 327 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid Are the 225/45 is cheaper than the standard 205/55s on the octavia eleg does anyone know? Ta

01-02-2006, 17:32	#12
charlie Brennan Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 256 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid I just had to change my NSR tyre, cost £74 for a p6000, phoned every number in yellow pages!! but when I got there, they checked the tracking told me it's 3mm out and wanted to charge £25 to adjust it! not a chance, 10 min job. Cheap tyres though. It was F1 tyres.

02-02-2006, 07:39	#13
MisterGT Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Okehampton Posts: 754 Thanks: 8 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid I'm still going to recommend the Toyo Proxes T1-R around £100 for 225/45/17's 24k on the fronts now but getting close to replacement. Last edited by MisterGT; 02-02-2006 at 07:41.

02-02-2006, 08:11	#14
chimp1965 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: kent Posts: 50 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: tyres again i'm afraid Are you telling me that you're getting 24,000 miles from front tyres on a VRS?

02-02-2006, 09:03	#16
ohawkins Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid That would be very impressive or you have Miss Daisy in the back I have Conti contact sports on the front which are just past their useable limit so I am going to change to some cheap Asymetrical tyres up front. Are there any rules that state you shouldn't run a different width and profile on the front to the back? I know you shouldn't mix on the same axle...... Anyone??

02-02-2006, 09:17	#17
MC Bodge Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North West England Posts: 899 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: tyres again i'm afraid Don't think so. Some cars do have different tyres front/rear as standard __________________ Mk1 Octavia vRS. The thinking man's Hot Hatch. PS. Give Cyclists Room! We're quite vulnerable. If I can slap your window, you're too close

02-02-2006, 12:12	#18
ohawkins Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: tyres again i'm afraid I have just done some ringing around and found some Kuhmo Ecsta 712 205/50/17 93W for £72.85 all in. Apparently a quality tyre and the reviews all seem to be very good!

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