tattoo_stew69

luckly i have had the pleasure of being the owner of a scooby wrx and a evo 1 and both as standard would have pissed on the vrs, sorry but in a straight line and round the bends, but so far i have really enjoyed having the vrs, plenty of power with nowhere near the hassle i.e.
fuel
parts
upgrading
labour costs
and insurance
dont get me wrong i have really enjoyed both cars but at the end of the day they are all money pits and it all depends on what type of car you are after, like a every day driver or a weekend blaster, the vrs has been the best all round car i have owned to date, fast,reliable and a great family car.
im slightly drunk so im off to bed so i am nice and fresh for work 2morrow

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ncarring

Try a search, been covered many times before.

You will lose, unless there is a huge talent gap in your favour.

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bengie

obviously running 300bhp+in an octavia against a standard wrx/sti/evo is different but i did say earlier on your going to need a bigger turbo etc to do it

still, 300bhp isn't enough for a real man

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Liverpool-Lad

You may beat one of the low powered Imprezas on the move due to 4wd losses - were the early UK ones something like 200bhp?

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bengie

an early turbo 2000 is "only" 214bhp(about what a remapped octavia actually gets rather than the inflated figures taht some quote) but they still do 0-60 in about 6 seconds so will definitly stand a better chance against one but whilst they have greater loses than an octavia they are lighter with shorter gearing so who knows really.

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redbaron

funny how there were some mk1's out there that regularly took em like kings.

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andypandypoos

I don't think so, but my mate had been living here for about 6 years before moving back to his native Spain so maybe his Spanish was a little rusty...

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Originally Posted by bohdi This was never about the money, this was about us against the system. That system that kills the human spirit. We stand for something. We are here to show those guys that are inching their way on the freeways in their metal coffins that the human sprit is still alive

como estan, puta?

Rich.H

My Octy VRS Mk 1 was running 202bhp at the wheels (est at 250 crank) with 266 ft/lb of torque at 3000 rpm (std it was 165) its the torque that gets em! lol. Absolutely nailed STi's they didnt have a hope, nailed evo 6's inc the Tommy Mackinen that my m8 has. Put to shame a 'done up' evo 6 at the local cruise who's driver immediately claimed it wasnt boosting right and he had a flat tyre! lol. The VRs may not have the 'Kudos' of the Evo or Subaru, however you cant beat the feeling you get from nailing them in a skoda! i reckon the 4x4 drivetrain bleeds away about 80bhp, the two wheel drive takes about 50bhp (my 180bhp VRS was achieving 140 at the wheels with TIP, De-cat, Miltek, K&N 57i, Bailey DV, so i reckon that lot must have added 10bhp hence the 50bhp loss). Place that remapped mine put it on their web site as car of the month they were so impressed with the performance gains!

Rich.H

Another thing to consider is that if you go up against a Scooby just keep going cos you know the scooby's crank will self destruct after 10 minutes hard thrash! lol, no such probs with the VAG engine! Yet!!!

bengie

what a load of tosh, no way your killing a properly driven sti and also your car wasn't 250bhp as the losses aren't 50bhp on a FWD octavia, even then losing 50bhp from a 250bhp car Vs losing 80bhp from a 270bhp with shorter gearing would not conclude in you "nailing" him

leave your racing for tracks and strips so that everyone knows whats going on will you.

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andypandypoos

but if a mk2 with a remap and some bolt-ons has the measure of a 350bhp(?) Evo VII why so sceptical about a mk1 with a remap besting an STI

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Originally Posted by bohdi This was never about the money, this was about us against the system. That system that kills the human spirit. We stand for something. We are here to show those guys that are inching their way on the freeways in their metal coffins that the human sprit is still alive

como estan, puta?

redbaron

cos it takes a hell of a lot more than a remap to best an STi or an Evo... not impossible ... but not with just a remap.

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V666 VRS

I cant believe this "can a vRS beat an EVO" is still going on. Without doubt, the octavia vrs stands no chance in any circumstance. YES people like Declac or Stevie (deep pockets) wonder have spend 10s of thousands on there front wheel drive Octy vRS. But the thing is, they still dont have the basic Rally car derived chassis AND engine. Pllleeeaaase, if you want a fast car then please just buy one from the box. Then you can buy a remap and make it a little bit quicker

Darren

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redbaron

Your selling your octavia to buy an evo.... so you keep spouting the rhetoric.. you will fit in on the MLR perfectly. make sure you say hi to all the evo joy boys that have been mullered by vRS's on track days.

obviously you are a much more of an expert than anyone on briskoda so whilst you are spouting would you care to explain why
when quite clearly this is completely and totally wrong and has been proved so in a number of circumstances already.

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corradoboy

Before I got a Furby vRS I had an Impreza WRX, and trust me, you'd be left wondering where I went on any challenging road in the country. Lots of people spouting power figures, but my car was standard apart from the PPP (Prodrive Performance Pack) which took it from 220 to 260bhp, 4.8 seconds and 155mph. The critical mods for road driving are chassis and suspension mods, click and read mine. The RE070 tyres alone added 30mph to my cornering speeds, let alone the 12 point adjustable coilovers and other stuff. With corner entry speeds in excess of 3 figures you really would not stand a cats. Concerns over the standard Subaru 4 pot brakes aren't valid as I don't use brakes except in emergencies, prefering to drive Roadcraft, keeping balanced and fluid. And stories of weak cranks and chocolate pistons are old wives tales. In 60k miles my car needed 2 exhaust sensors and a wheel bearing, seeing a main dealer once in 3 years except servicing. Both our Skodas (Fabia vRS and Octy 2) have been back over 5 times in 18 months. If you've not driven one, extensively, getting used to its capabilities then you can't fully understand how good they are. Razzing around an industrial estate against some kid who doesn't know his bigend from his bellend is no way to compare and appreciate the differences between the two cars, you have to drive them, and in as many circumstances as possible. Some have commented on drivetrain losses, which can be a factor in some circumstances, but FWD is a factor too in many circumstances. Follow me over Strines Moor in South Yorkshire in a FWD car and I'll either order your pint as I'm downing my second at The Ladybower Inn, or order you an ambulance. Sit side-by-side on a dual carriageway with no corners to worry about and you'll keep up, but I'd fall asleep on such boring roads.
Errm, aren't Scoobs practical, 4 door, reasonably large booted and a great deal of fun on your own. There's always wagon's (Scooby estates) too. If you want really practical, look at the Forester. I'd love a 330bhp Forester STi with suspension mods

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k04

Before I got a Furby vRS I had an Impreza WRX, and trust me, you'd be left wondering where I went on any challenging road in the country. Lots of people spouting power figures, but my car was standard apart from the PPP (Prodrive Performance Pack) which took it from 220 to 260bhp, 4.8 seconds and 155mph. The critical mods for road driving are chassis and suspension mods, click and read mine. The RE070 tyres alone added 30mph to my cornering speeds, let alone the 12 point adjustable coilovers and other stuff. With corner entry speeds in excess of 3 figures you really would not stand a cats. Concerns over the standard Subaru 4 pot brakes aren't valid as I don't use brakes except in emergencies, prefering to drive Roadcraft, keeping balanced and fluid. And stories of weak cranks and chocolate pistons are old wives tales. In 60k miles my car needed 2 exhaust sensors and a wheel bearing, seeing a main dealer once in 3 years except servicing. Both our Skodas (Fabia vRS and Octy 2) have been back over 5 times in 18 months. If you've not driven one, extensively, getting used to its capabilities then you can't fully understand how good they are. Razzing around an industrial estate against some kid who doesn't know his bigend from his bellend is no way to compare and appreciate the differences between the two cars, you have to drive them, and in as many circumstances as possible. Some have commented on drivetrain losses, which can be a factor in some circumstances, but FWD is a factor too in many circumstances. Follow me over Strines Moor in South Yorkshire in a FWD car and I'll either order your pint as I'm downing my second at The Ladybower Inn, or order you an ambulance. Sit side-by-side on a dual carriageway with no corners to worry about and you'll keep up, but I'd fall asleep on such boring roads.

QUOTE: Errm, aren't Scoobs practical, 4 door, reasonably large booted and a great deal of fun on your own. There's always wagon's (Scooby estates) too. If you want really practical, look at the Forester. I'd love a 330bhp Forester STi with suspension mods [/quote]

Im not into estates plus the forrester is one ugly car! If i wanted an estate id of gone for a Volvo V70R manual coz iv driven loads of these in past and are so understated whereas the scoob is a 'look at me iv got a scooby'.
Didnt want that plus they are as common as muck,yes they are faster than a vrs but i dont care,vrs's are cheaper to run,insure,repair/maintain and have a better interior,the scoobs TOO plasticy inside,so i wouldnt say their that practical ,more of a license taker.
Im still going to modify my vrs,get it remapped and stuff.
Iv also driven loads of vrs's before i got mine being a valeter so i knew it was a good car straight away.
Imnot saying i dont like the scooby coz i do (mk 1's the best) and the sounds awesome.
Iv seen scoobs at Santa Pod getting there buttI kicked by VAG cars,theres not a lot in it in the real world,on paper yes but not in the real world.
I bet my Skodas got a bigger boot than a scooby ,i can fit two single pushchairs in flat plus a big double pushchair.

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k04

I messed up the quotes there..oops

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Andy

Sonic1980

Also - this is in the Octy Mk1 section. But similar post applies here too...

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V666 VRS

I'v sold the Octavia and already bought an EVO I'v only had it for 2 days now but the 2 cars are a world apart in performance and handling terms. You CAN spend thousands on the Octy and make it quick and good at handling but i went down the fast car out of the box route. Yes i'v fitted into the MLR rather well thankyou

Darren

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k04

Hi V666 VRS

Sorry but whats the MLR?

What evo have you got

Does that mean your not going to be using Briskoda anymore

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Mater

Im afraid i have to agree with the masses here.

I have a slightly modified MK2 vRS and yes on straights i can beat Imprezas and Some evo's (mainly EVO IV and below)

However when it comes to the Twisties forget it. The Octy (both MKI and MKII) just do not have the Chassis to cope the same as what an EVO/Impreza does. You would be parked in a Hedge pretty quickly if you tried to keep with one.

As has been said earlier if you want a car to keep up or beat them then buy an Evo FQ-360 and you will be able to leave ferrari's etc.

But a vRS vs EVO/Scooby

Forget it unless its a straight road/some spotty geek driving and its on a 92 plate or something similar

Carl

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V666 VRS

MLR is Mitsubishi Lancer Register mate, and its a forum for EVO owners. I bought an EVO V in the end. I'm extremely happy with it but after my bad ownership with the vRS i'm still a little worried about planting my foot incase i break something Unless i get directed to a thread on Briskoda then i wont be arround as i dont own a Skoda anymore. I just had to make comment on this thread as i find it ludicrous that anyone can think the Octy vRS could keep up with an EVO. Remember the OP asked if a remapped vRS would stay with a standard 280bhp EVO and imo of owning both the answer is a deffinate no. If the Octavia was built to a better standard than i would say its an excellent car as the all round package is a good start but the crap suspension components and bushes plus all the other COMMON faults, for me, made it a bad car.

Darren

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redbaron

if you think the octy is unreliable you are in for a very rough ride with a 10-12 year old evo.

good luck you will need it.

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Thankyou.

Darren

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Mmm, for some strange reason I don't seem to have any problems keeping up or passing Evo's/Scooby's. These are the scores as I find them given the cars that I have come up against, some running much more power than the Red Devil.

RD = Red Devil
Scevo = Scooby/Evo

Standing starts RD 0 - Scevo 1
Top speed RD 1 - Scevo 0
In gear accel RD 1 - Scevo 0
Cornering RD 1 - Scevo 0
Respect RD 0 - Scevo 1
Insurance RD 1 - Scevo 0
Economy RD 1 - Scevo 0
On track RD 1 - Scevo 0
Servicing RD 1 - Scevo 0
Dealers RD 1 - Scevo 0

You lot can add more as required.

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