whats the difference

jjj985@msn.com · 06-11-2006, 19:02

hello people

i have just been browsing custom-code website and i have noticed that remaping the ocatvia vrs only gives 10-15bhp more than the 1.8t 150ps.

as the vrs has 30ps more than the 150ps, what difference on the engine is it just mapping or does it have a different turbo like the leon cupra and cupra r?

im after a vrs but if theres not that much difference in mapped power should i get a 150ps and save the 1k on insurance?

any views would be helpful

thanks

mattbeef · 06-11-2006, 19:53

it is just the mapping that different from an engine point of view

jjj985@msn.com · 06-11-2006, 19:59

ok so insurance wants an extra £1414 just for a body kit and fancy seats.?

whats the diffrence between the 2 cars please

redbaron · 06-11-2006, 20:05

you could try reading a few previous threads?

TeflonTom · 07-11-2006, 01:32

the 180bhp version has variable valve timing and the 150bhp version doesn't

redbaron · 07-11-2006, 01:54

absolute rubbish

they are basically the same unit.

however some older 150hp cars have slightly diff turbos...

DaveH · 07-11-2006, 08:31

Are you looking at the non DBW 150hp output figures? There is no difference between what figures can be achieved by the the 180hp and 150hp variants, as long as its a like for like comparison e.g. DBW, VVT etc.

bengie · 07-11-2006, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeflonTom

the 180bhp version has variable valve timing and the 150bhp version doesn't

then my engine must have been swapped at some point then de-tuned

the vRS gains:

bigger front brakes
vented rear brakes
lower stiffer suspension
better holding seats
half "leather" seats
17" alloys(on the hatch back)

not just saying this as i have one but have you considered the 4x4 1.8T?

its the elegance spec so gains the following over the vRS:

arm rest
ESP
sunroof

but gets the lesser brakes and suspension.

both the 1.8T's in the vRS and the elegance of the same age havthe same potential.

jjj985@msn.com · 07-11-2006, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

then my engine must have been swapped at some point then de-tuned

the vRS gains:

bigger front brakes
vented rear brakes
lower stiffer suspension
better holding seats
half "leather" seats
17" alloys(on the hatch back)

not just saying this as i have one but have you considered the 4x4 1.8T?

its the elegance spec so gains the following over the vRS:

arm rest
ESP
sunroof

but gets the lesser brakes and suspension.

both the 1.8T's in the vRS and the elegance of the same age havthe same potential.

yes i have looked at the 4x4 but undicided it has a slower accel time on paper,

i do like the vrs but for what ya get different im not sure its worth the extra grand on insurance. i want a sleeper

if i was to get a 1.8t with the 1k i save on insurance i could lower it and put better brakes on. and fit a vrs spoiler as the back end looks a bit empty with out one.

i keep browsing the form for tunning potential but im only finding bits of info
so this is were your help comes in handy once again

what is the tunning potential? whats on the market, i know theres fmic, remap, pannel filter, but i never had a vag car or a turbo one so i havent got a clue.

i would like 225+ bhp to start with, how achiveable is this?

sorry for the long post ppl

**TaviaRS** · 07-11-2006, 18:40

Relatively easy to attain 225.

bengie · 07-11-2006, 18:57

if your gonna be happy with about 220bhp then get any old 1.8T and get it remapped as that *should* get about that figure, this will cost about £4-500

06-11-2006, 19:02	#1
jjj985@msn.com Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: barnsley Posts: 30 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	whats the difference hello people i have just been browsing custom-code website and i have noticed that remaping the ocatvia vrs only gives 10-15bhp more than the 1.8t 150ps. as the vrs has 30ps more than the 150ps, what difference on the engine is it just mapping or does it have a different turbo like the leon cupra and cupra r? im after a vrs but if theres not that much difference in mapped power should i get a 150ps and save the 1k on insurance? any views would be helpful thanks

06-11-2006, 19:53	#2
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 36 Thanked 116 Times in 115 Posts	Re: whats the difference it is just the mapping that different from an engine point of view __________________ I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque Go on click me you know you want to

06-11-2006, 19:59	#3
jjj985@msn.com Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: barnsley Posts: 30 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: whats the difference ok so insurance wants an extra £1414 just for a body kit and fancy seats.? whats the diffrence between the 2 cars please

06-11-2006, 20:05	#4
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,553 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: whats the difference you could try reading a few previous threads? __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

07-11-2006, 01:32	#5
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 8,194 Thanks: 46 Thanked 231 Times in 203 Posts	Re: whats the difference the 180bhp version has variable valve timing and the 150bhp version doesn't

07-11-2006, 01:54	#6
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,553 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: whats the difference absolute rubbish they are basically the same unit. however some older 150hp cars have slightly diff turbos... __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

07-11-2006, 08:31	#7
DaveH Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sheffield Posts: 806 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: whats the difference Are you looking at the non DBW 150hp output figures? There is no difference between what figures can be achieved by the the 180hp and 150hp variants, as long as its a like for like comparison e.g. DBW, VVT etc. __________________ Mondeo Tdci 115, sweet!

07-11-2006, 18:40	#10
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,943 Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Re: whats the difference Relatively easy to attain 225. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

07-11-2006, 18:57	#11
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,207 Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	Re: whats the difference if your gonna be happy with about 220bhp then get any old 1.8T and get it remapped as that should get about that figure, this will cost about £4-500 __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

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